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Speculation: Roster Building Thread I (2019/2020) - A Day in the Life

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Kovalev27 said:
Were not signing an 8th dman. That was ridiculous last year would be even more so this year with all the kids in Hartford we should be giving looks too.

Smith can play forward left D and right D. He’s not worth 4 million dollars but there’s certainly value in that. He can cover 2 roster spots alone.

Rykov and Hajek both are going to push hard for NHL spots. Lindgren is serviceable we don’t need another Freddy Claesson eating up mins from a kid. This is a rebuild. Weve got plenty of veteran D.
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I will say I like McQuaid. He's a soldier--he plays within his limitations and will do his best to do what he's asked to do and he's very tough and a lot of teams in the East have toughened up for next year. I think the mentality that Quinn brought to the Rangers last year helps in that regard though. The other thing is signing a vet can mean an extra 3rd/4th rounder in the 2020 draft if you turn around and deal that player at the deadline.
 
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Kovalev27 said:
Were not signing an 8th dman. That was ridiculous last year would be even more so this year with all the kids in Hartford we should be giving looks too.

Smith can play forward left D and right D. He’s not worth 4 million dollars but there’s certainly value in that. He can cover 2 roster spots alone.

Rykov and Hajek both are going to push hard for NHL spots. Lindgren is serviceable we don’t need another Freddy Claesson eating up mins from a kid. This is a rebuild. Weve got plenty of veteran D.
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Keeping Smith up is essentially the same thing as signing a 6/7 for $1m. Frankly, as much as I don't like Smith, I'd rather have him up with the Rangers than sulking in Hartford (like he did last time).
 
Riche16 said:
Tend to agree althoughhhhhhhh

This IS the same GM who signed Shatty 2 years ago, and who gave Namestnikov 4Mx2

Both of those moves put us in this spot. Panarin and Trouba also for sure, but we have to wait and see there right?????
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Gorton is doing an excellent job. The players are also to blame when they don’t live up to their contracts.
 
Kaapo Feel said:
"Frankly, as much as I don't like Smith, I'd rather have him up with the Rangers than sulking in Hartford (like he did last time)."
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If you're referring to why I don't like Smith, it's mostly about the bad penalties he takes.

If you're referring to why I'd rather have him with the big club rather than sulking in Hartford... what I mean by that is that he wouldn't be sulking with the Rangers and having someone sulking like that around the youth is not a great idea. Given that the Rangers aren't really about wins and losses this year and Hartford is going to have several young D, we may as well keep him up.
 
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Tawnos said:
If you're referring to why I don't like Smith, it's mostly about the bad penalties he takes.

If you're referring to why I'd rather have him with the big club rather than sulking in Hartford... what I mean by that is that he wouldn't be sulking with the Rangers and having someone sulking like that around the youth is not a great idea. Given that the Rangers aren't really about wins and losses this year and Hartford is going to have several young D, we may as well keep him up.
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It was the second part. I agree it' s not ideal for him to sulk, but look at the cap savings we get from burying him in Hartford
 
Kaapo Feel said:
It was the second part. I agree it' s not ideal for him to sulk, but look at the cap savings we get from burying him in Hartford
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We barely get any. The team is going to need to carry 7 defensemen. Either that 7th guy is Smith who costs $1.075m more in NY vs Hartford, a rookie who will cost between $750k and $925k, or a signing from outside the org, which would cost $700k-$1m. We're talking about a $100-300k at most.
 
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I fully expect the Rangers to sign a defenseman similar to the McQuaid acquisition last year. Preferably RHD.

McQuaid would be perfect if he was completely healthy. He has a concussion near the end of the regular season and was never cleared to return. That’s very concerning.

My guess is that if Michael Stone is bought out by Calgary, he becomes a top candidate. 1 year, $1MM.
 
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bobbop said:
I fully expect the Rangers to sign a defenseman similar to the McQuaid acquisition last year. Preferably RHD.

McQuaid would be perfect if he was completely healthy. He has a concussion near the end of the regular season and was never cleared to return. That’s very concerning.

My guess is that if Michael Stone is bought out by Calgary, he becomes a top candidate. 1 year, $1MM.
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This is going to be dependent on what DeAngelo and Lemieux end up signing for. The Shattenkirk buyout got us where we needed to go, but only barely.
 
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Tawnos said:
If you're referring to why I don't like Smith, it's mostly about the bad penalties he takes.

If you're referring to why I'd rather have him with the big club rather than sulking in Hartford... what I mean by that is that he wouldn't be sulking with the Rangers and having someone sulking like that around the youth is not a great idea. Given that the Rangers aren't really about wins and losses this year and Hartford is going to have several young D, we may as well keep him up.
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Another benefit of keeping Smith up is his willingness to drop the gloves. And if he surprisingly plays well, Gorton might be able to move him with retention.
 
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Mrpuck said:
I think those moves need to be looked at in the right context. Every GM in the league with cap space would have signed Shatty to the hometown deal he gave the Rangers. The guy had an injury, it happens. Maybe he would have been better this year from the reports coming out, who knows. But I can't blame Gordon for that signing. Nemestnikov is still an asset and got market rate for a resign. Maybe with the loss of Hayes there are plans for him to play a role here.

In the end two things happened to fall into our laps. Kakko and Panarin. Nobody could have predicted either. They both instantly change the direction of the team. Had Panarin not happened, I am sure Shatty would still be here. But if you have a chance to add a guy of his level you take it, and then work out the other issues that come with it.
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Yet even with those two things this club is still rebuilding and just had to buy out a player for 6M who was signed for two more years. A rebuilding club 4M over the cap, and isn’t planning on (or shouldn’t plan on) being a playoff team.

I have been well on board most of what Gorton has done... this is no different. I understand it completely. But when u go after big ticket items too soon there’s going to be landmines that will inevitably blow something off.

We’ll see how all this turns out but if it’s 2014 all over again and we’re good but not good enough... it’s gonna suck because for all the times the “patience” mantra has been spewed by JG and JD, they certainly have been anything but patient since the calendar hit July 1st.
 
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Cag29 said:
Gorton is doing an excellent job. The players are also to blame when they don’t live up to their contracts.
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This is a great referendum for Chiarelli. He was undermined by the failure of his acquisitions. I'm buying into the "GMs are above rebuke" philosophy. The hallmark of sound judgment is the ability to apply it consistently.
 
I still believe a forward will be moved prior to the season (once this stagnant market opens up a bit) and they sign McQuaid or Petrovic to be a 6/7 RD to begin the season.
 
RangerBoy said:
JD’s first major move was to give a a 28 year old winger $81.5 million over seven seasons. That contract has epic disaster written all over it.
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Cry me a f***ing river. As I said last night, hasnt played a single game and youre already deeming it a disaster.

Bookmarking this over exaggeration for futures...
 
bobbop said:
I fully expect the Rangers to sign a defenseman similar to the McQuaid acquisition last year. Preferably RHD.

McQuaid would be perfect if he was completely healthy. He has a concussion near the end of the regular season and was never cleared to return. That’s very concerning.

My guess is that if Michael Stone is bought out by Calgary, he becomes a top candidate. 1 year, $1MM.
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I dont mind Smith as a 4th line banger, I actually think we need a little bite up front, but I'd be disappointed if someone like Lemieux or Andersson was replaced by him.
 
Stone would be a good third pairing/7D option if we didn't have so many other options in-house already available.

Skjei-Trouba
Staal-ADA
Smith-Fox
Hajek-Rykov
Lindgren

The only place for Stone would be on that bottom pairing, and as it is right now, we have a few in-house players, as listed above, that I think the team would prefer to go with over Stone.

Maybe a PTO for camp and then if they feel the kid(s) aren't ready for the 3RD spot out of the gate, they sign him to 1x1 and then have him play there until they feel a guy or two in HFD is ready to come up mid-season and then keep Stone around as 7D for the remainder of the season or something.
 
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