Maximus
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Alright got off my lazy ass and checked the last 10 Cup winners and it's this:
Pens 3 times
Black Hawks 3 times
Kings 2 times
Bruins 1 time
Red Wings 1 time
So three of those teams...the Pens,Hawks and Kings sucked for awhile and accumulated solid draft picks
For LA: 8 years proceeding Kings first Cup they missed playoffs all together 6 years, made playoff twice and than won their first of their two Cups. Interestingly the past 3 years since their 2nd Cup they have either missed the playoffs twice and lost in first round the other time. For some reason to me, the Kings seem like the anomaly of how to go about winning a Cup. Their success was predicated after drafting players like DDoughty, JQuick, AKopitar, AMartinez were all players they drafted in the proceeding 3 years before 2008 in the first 4 rounds of their drafts that were bigtime contributers to their multiple Cups. To me the Kings are the outlier as to how most of the teams in past have won their Cups as alot of their key contributors were aquired either via UFA or by trades.
For Chicago: for 5 of the past 10 years despite winning 3 Cups, they have lost in first round including last year 4 times. They have missed playoffs once. They have lost in WCF twice and won their 3 Cups. Their success in the proceeding 3 years before 2008 was drafting transcendental picks such at Toewes and Kane back to back overall #1's both '07 and '08 and making some great FA pickups like Hossa and some great trades as well.
For Pittsburgh: After missing playoffs for 4 straight year proceeding their first round exit in 2007, they have made the playoffs all 10 years this decade. They obviously have won 3 Cups made it to one losing Cup final, lost 4 first round playoff matches and lost two other semi final playoff matchups. Their success in the proceeding 3 years before 2008 was drafting MAF, Malkin and Crosby....enough said. Well OK, I'll say something else. They made some key FA pickups and some great trades(ie...Kessel)
Moral of story: If you can tank and suck for long enough as these three teams have done, with some savvy FA pickups and some furtiutous trades that work out a Cup or two can be within your grasp.
If your the NY Rangers, you can't do it this way. You need too do it the way Gorton is trying to do it...."retool on the fly" or you can get lucky like we got in 1991 and a Mark Messier by a miracle of god was made available by a team whose owner was going bankrupt. I guess we'll have to trust JG's way seeing I don't see a Getzlaf,Toewes,Ovie...etc becoming available in the near future. One caveat as I mentioned a few times. If the Islanders keep up their insanely stupid ways, maybe just maybe a Tavares becomes available and than we maybe have our this generations "Messier"....
Other than that, we need to have faith that our GMJG knows what he's doing and has a plan. I trust him as he hasn't failed us yet...
Pens 3 times
Black Hawks 3 times
Kings 2 times
Bruins 1 time
Red Wings 1 time
So three of those teams...the Pens,Hawks and Kings sucked for awhile and accumulated solid draft picks
For LA: 8 years proceeding Kings first Cup they missed playoffs all together 6 years, made playoff twice and than won their first of their two Cups. Interestingly the past 3 years since their 2nd Cup they have either missed the playoffs twice and lost in first round the other time. For some reason to me, the Kings seem like the anomaly of how to go about winning a Cup. Their success was predicated after drafting players like DDoughty, JQuick, AKopitar, AMartinez were all players they drafted in the proceeding 3 years before 2008 in the first 4 rounds of their drafts that were bigtime contributers to their multiple Cups. To me the Kings are the outlier as to how most of the teams in past have won their Cups as alot of their key contributors were aquired either via UFA or by trades.
For Chicago: for 5 of the past 10 years despite winning 3 Cups, they have lost in first round including last year 4 times. They have missed playoffs once. They have lost in WCF twice and won their 3 Cups. Their success in the proceeding 3 years before 2008 was drafting transcendental picks such at Toewes and Kane back to back overall #1's both '07 and '08 and making some great FA pickups like Hossa and some great trades as well.
For Pittsburgh: After missing playoffs for 4 straight year proceeding their first round exit in 2007, they have made the playoffs all 10 years this decade. They obviously have won 3 Cups made it to one losing Cup final, lost 4 first round playoff matches and lost two other semi final playoff matchups. Their success in the proceeding 3 years before 2008 was drafting MAF, Malkin and Crosby....enough said. Well OK, I'll say something else. They made some key FA pickups and some great trades(ie...Kessel)
Moral of story: If you can tank and suck for long enough as these three teams have done, with some savvy FA pickups and some furtiutous trades that work out a Cup or two can be within your grasp.
If your the NY Rangers, you can't do it this way. You need too do it the way Gorton is trying to do it...."retool on the fly" or you can get lucky like we got in 1991 and a Mark Messier by a miracle of god was made available by a team whose owner was going bankrupt. I guess we'll have to trust JG's way seeing I don't see a Getzlaf,Toewes,Ovie...etc becoming available in the near future. One caveat as I mentioned a few times. If the Islanders keep up their insanely stupid ways, maybe just maybe a Tavares becomes available and than we maybe have our this generations "Messier"....
Other than that, we need to have faith that our GMJG knows what he's doing and has a plan. I trust him as he hasn't failed us yet...
