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Speculation: Roster Building Thread DCLXXVII: Derek Stepan Trade-A-Palooza

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JT Kreider said:
When you have a franchise player at the top, the rest falls into place.

It's why a team like the Patriots are such a well-oiled machine and churn out players left and right every year.

It's why a team like the Penguins can pull no-name guys like Sheary, Guentzel, Rust, Cole and even Schultz out of nowhere and turn them into highly effective players.
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This, this and so much this!!!
 
JT Kreider said:
When you have a franchise player at the top, the rest falls into place.


It's why a team like the Patriots are such a well-oiled machine and churn out players left and right every year.

It's why a team like the Penguins can pull no-name guys like Sheary, Guentzel, Rust, Cole and even Schultz out of nowhere and turn them into highly effective players.
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And how are we acquiring that franchise player? Because trading Stepan for Strome isn't fixing that.
 
ManUtdTobbe said:
We could have easily won with the F core if we built a decent D to support them instead of playing G+Staal in top 4 roles.
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I agree 100%. I'm not saying that G and Staal were the only problems, but for the amount of ice time they got and who they played with, I'd say they have been the 2 biggest negatives on this team for the past 3 or 4 seasons, and it won't be tough to improve on them
 
Lorb said:
I think if Step just went for the Chris Kreider training regiment this summer and put in the full 3 months of bulking up and getting absolutely ripped jump out of the pool, Marty St.Louis Calves, Michael Grabner shoulders, he could easily hit 70 points.
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I saw him quit on two backchecks last playoff season that was not like Stepan in the past. I think he knew he was not playing with the same hustle that he did in the past. Step is a competitor so I will not be surprised if he tries to improve his stamina for next season.
 
Lorb said:
Having a superstar helps but that's not why we're without a cup.
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I mean in years past the longer the PO run the scoring dried up. Nash was supposed to be the guy. Never was. This PO we scored just had the worst top 6 D in 10 years back there and a goalie who was inconsistent all year and wasn't great against OTT like he was the MTL series.
 
Having that elite 1C is really doing the Islanders a ton of favors right now. Loads of playoff wins since they drafted JT.

Drafted outside the top-10 ONE-YEAR from 06-12.

Dynasty in the making on the Island.

There's no magic bullet.
 
silverfish said:
Having that elite 1C is really doing the Islanders a ton of favors right now. Loads of playoff wins since they drafted JT.

Drafted outside the top-10 ONE-YEAR from 06-12.

Dynasty in the making on the Island.

There's no magic bullet.
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But I was told that was the recipe for success
 
Anthony5967 said:
I mean in years past the longer the PO run the scoring dried up. Nash was supposed to be the guy. Never was. This PO we scored just had the worst top 6 D in 10 years back there and a goalie who was inconsistent all year and wasn't great against OTT like he was the MTL series.
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I think sometimes we are too hard on Nash here. He's been a very very good player for us, just not in that top tier (Kane, Crosby, McDavid) probably one notch below ... but he's getting paid a boat load so it's kind of hard on him.
 
silverfish said:
Having that elite 1C is really doing the Islanders a ton of favors right now. Loads of playoff wins since they drafted JT.

Drafted outside the top-10 ONE-YEAR from 06-12.

Dynasty in the making on the Island.

There's no magic bullet.
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Capuano destroyed the Islanders chances at being anything other than a laughingstock of a franchise.
 
JT Kreider said:
Capuano destroyed the Islanders chances at being anything other than a laughingstock of a franchise.
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But they have an elite 1C?

Do you mean to say that it's possible it's not the only thing you need? And that maybe you can do damage without one if the rest of your team is built correctly? Like maybe not giving 60% of ice time to two of the worst d-men in the league? And maybe not spending $~11m on said d-men? And maybe using that money elsewhere to actually make your team better?

What a concept!

Lest we forget a Stepan center-led Rangers team made the ECF twice, and the SCF once, despite having G and Staal on the roster logging heavy minutes.

Lest we forget that the Pens needed 7 games against Washington, 7 games against Ottawa, and 6 games against a RyJo and Fiala-less Nashville.

Again, if this magic success bullet to being a cup contender or a dynasty was to tank relentlessly, every team in the league would be doing it.

Where do you think the NYR are as an organization today if instead of Girardi and Staal, they went with Stralman and Yandle? I, for one, have no idea, but it sure as **** looks a lot better on paper to me.
 
Amazing Kreiderman said:
Ah, so it's Capuano's fault. Maybe our team's problem is AV then? Or doesn't it work that way?
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The Islanders also failed Tavares and themselves by not getting Tavares actual talent to play with. They missed the boat on every first line player that has been traded the past few years.
 
JT Kreider said:
The Islanders failed Tavares by not surrounding him with talent. So many first line players were traded in the past 5 years and the Islanders missed out on all of them.
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A different excuse for every team that didn't win with an elite center.
 
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