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Ola said:
Nicky- Hm, he certainly had Talbot and our ask? What more could you ask for? He certainly had Hagelin being the odd man out.

Take my word for it, he gets more info from our organization than anyone else. AINEC.
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I said before other sources. People speculated all season including right here about Hags or Zooks. once Zooks re-signed Many people speculated that Hags who had a new deal coming might be traded. Brooks did not calk the Hags to Ducks trade for Etem in any advance way.
Brooks did not have any exclusive on Tablot trade to Edm. That was openly speculated for months by many people and Tablot almost went elsewhere in his last 2 weeks as a Ranger.

I have followed the Rangers for decades. I know 2 people in the MSG (not Ranger) organization. Brooks doesn't even get as much inside information as former Jets quarterback Boomer Essiason. Brooks accuracy is no better than many and a lot worse than some other guys imo.
 
Berserk said:
His mistakes led to the tying goal that sent us to overtime and the pinch led to the winning goal.

Anything else?
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Games aren't decided based on 1 play. Blaming Holden, or even saying we lost the games because of him completely ignores the complete meltdown the team had as a whole.

You can't blame a player for a loss because he caused one goal, but then not credit him for the win when he scored
 
FLYLine27 said:
What? Really? You aren't going to find a better deal for Stepan than that. Wild would hang up the phone....
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I disagree, i think that's a pretty bad deal for Stepan.

I think Brodin is a #4 without any upside to being a top pairing guy and while i did like Tuch in his draft year i'm pretty uncertain about him now in 2017.

I think getting a left handed #4 with limited upside and a good but far from blue chip prospect for Stepan is really bad value.
 
DanielBrassard said:
Also giving Brendan Smith market value? I am not too thrilled about that. 4.5M for 4-5 years for a #4 is not smart IMO.
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Igor Shestyorkin said:
Yeah I like Smith, and he is usually a good possession player but he doesn't provide any offense, or any particularly great puck moving. It'd be a waste to spend 4M+ on him for 4-5 years.
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Not worth it. Also, not a top-4 D
 
Amazing Kreiderman said:
Games aren't decided based on 1 play. Blaming Holden, or even saying we lost the games because of him completely ignores the complete meltdown the team had as a whole.

You can't blame a player for a loss because he caused one goal, but then not credit him for the win when he scored
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When they are in overtime they certainly are decided on one play
 
NickyFotiu said:
I said before other sources. People speculated all season including right here about Hags or Zooks. once Zooks re-signed Many people speculated that Hags who had a new deal coming might be traded. Brooks did not calk the Hags to Ducks trade for Etem in any advance way.
Brooks did not have any exclusive on Tablot trade to Edm. That was openly speculated for months by many people and Tablot almost went elsewhere in his last 2 weeks as a Ranger.

I have followed the Rangers for decades. I know 2 people in the MSG (not Ranger) organization. Brooks doesn't even get as much inside information as former Jets quarterback Boomer Essiason. Brooks accuracy is no better than many and a lot worse than some other guys imo.
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To add to this, Bob McKenzie brook the Staal trade 2 seasons ago, not Brooks.

That guy is a hack's hack.
 
Berserk said:
When they are in overtime they certainly are decided on one play
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No, because you had 60 minutes before OT began which affect the outcome of the game as well.

This is the same as people crediting Lundqvist when we win 6-5 but blame the offense when we lose 6-5.
 
ManUtdTobbe said:
I disagree, i think that's a pretty bad deal for Stepan.

I think Brodin is a #4 without any upside to being a top pairing guy and while i did like Tuch in his draft year i'm pretty uncertain about him now in 2017.

I think getting a left handed #4 with limited upside and a good but far from blue chip prospect for Stepan is really bad value.
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is tuch worse now ? this kid has enormous talent and adds an element down low this team could really use.

stepan for dumba and tuch would seem to me to be a great hockey trade.

dumba is a solid 23 yr old top 4 guy and tuch becomes our #1 forward prospect by alot.
 
Berserk said:
To add to this, Bob McKenzie brook the Staal trade 2 seasons ago, not Brooks.

That guy is a hack's hack.
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I think it was Dregar not Brooks on the Yandle trade as well.

Brooks has put out a possible Shane Doan trade for year after year.
 
offdacrossbar said:
is tuch worse now ? this kid has enormous talent and adds an element down low this team could really use.

stepan for dumba and tuch would seem to me to be a great hockey trade.

dumba is a solid 23 yr old top 4 guy and tuch becomes our #1 forward prospect by alot.
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Yeah well Dumba being right handed, younger and actually possessing significant offensive upside makes it a better deal.
 
Holden at 1.6 as an asset is just fine. That being said, I hope we deal for a D worth protecting. There should be several teams out there who would like some return on A D they may lose
 
So Brooks is getting trashed for writing an opinion that comes off as opinion? Carpinella and Zipay only have opinion. Carpinella trolls fans all day, if we win or lose he shoe horns a McIlrath or Glass comment in. Brooks has his take, he reads the tea leaves like everyone else. I'd take the negativity a little more seriously if it was balanced and not just attacks every time he prints something.

His coverage of the CBA and takes on the negotiations are great in my opinion. He takes shots at Bettman, we can all get behind that, right?
 
Amazing Kreiderman said:
No, because you had 60 minutes before OT began which affect the outcome of the game as well.

This is the same as people crediting Lundqvist when we win 6-5 but blame the offense when we lose 6-5.
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If he had not made that dumb decision to pinch there would have been no two on one - that decision ended the game. He's a dumb defenseman and was on for PLENTY of goals against this playoffs. He's not good.
 
DutchShamrock said:
So Brooks is getting trashed for writing an opinion that comes off as opinion? Carpinella and Zipay only have opinion. Carpinella trolls fans all day, if we win or lose he shoe horns a McIlrath or Glass comment in. Brooks has his take, he reads the tea leaves like everyone else. I'd take the negativity a little more seriously if it was balanced and not just attacks every time he prints something.

His coverage of the CBA and takes on the negotiations are great in my opinion. He takes shots at Bettman, we can all get behind that, right?
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I don't see anyone pumping those guy's tires. they are awful as well. There isn't one decent NYR beat writer.
 
NickyFotiu said:
I think it was Dregar not Brooks on the Yandle trade as well.

Brooks has put out a possible Shane Doan trade for year after year.
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Actually I wanna say that Friedman had Yandle. I remember driving home and seeing the tweet from him that day saying "Something up between NYR and Arizona..."
 
I thought it was Kypreos that broke the Yandle trade but botched it by including Girardi in the deal.
 
DutchShamrock said:
So Brooks is getting trashed for writing an opinion that comes off as opinion? Carpinella and Zipay only have opinion. Carpinella trolls fans all day, if we win or lose he shoe horns a McIlrath or Glass comment in. Brooks has his take, he reads the tea leaves like everyone else. I'd take the negativity a little more seriously if it was balanced and not just attacks every time he prints something.

His coverage of the CBA and takes on the negotiations are great in my opinion. He takes shots at Bettman, we can all get behind that, right?
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He just hates owners, management, and several coaches. Comes off as a never was jealous person ala Lupica. Not sure why thats a good thing. Ranger players have despised the guy since the 70s. He called Kevin Lowe a coward. He is a keyboard tough guy. Stepan and Boyle were right to go after him imo. Maybe even Torts.
 
It's been quiet today on the trade front for all teams. Is it too late or can teams still announce them? The trades before have been announced before this time of day haven't they?
 
NickyFotiu said:
He just hates owners, management, and several coaches. Comes off as a never was jealous person ala Lupica. Not sure why thats a good thing. Ranger players have despised the guy since the 70s. He called Kevin Lowe a coward. He is a keyboard tough guy. Stepan and Boyle were right to go after him imo. Maybe even Torts.
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Let's not also forget that in his heart of hearts Larry is a Devils guy through and through. Never says a bad word about that organization because they used to employ him.
 
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