Speculation: Roster Building Thread DCLXXVI: It's All Happening

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You and JTKreider.

False , I was just pointing out the obvious that we are not getting Faulk (on top of Carolina taking Staal), both Jenner and Atkinson, or one of Josi or Ellis in exchange for Stepan . Those proposals were moronic and just because they came from a fellow Rangers fan doesn't mean they should not be called out.

And not expecting Josi in return does not = Me undervaluing Step .

Galchenyuk with a decent add is my expected return. Similiar to the Brassard trade last summer.
 
They aren't going to qualify him or Clendening, per Brooks.

I saw that but does that mean we definitely would not bring either player back? Is it possible we wouldn't qualify but bring one back later this summer?
 
Actually they do and they want one. That's why they traded for Hanzal last year. Granlund and Stall can both swing out to the wing and Koivu is 34.

Grandlund was flanking Koivu. Erickson-Ek is probably ready for more responsibility. If they lose Staal however remote that scenario is, they will have a hole.
 
There was that rumor last week that said the Wild were likely to move a D-man, and it would probably be Dumba. They'd then turn around and expose Staal in the expansion draft.

I don't think the issue with the Wild is positional need, or the expansion draft itself, but money. They have ~$11M in cap and only 8 F and 5 D under contract. Stepan for Dumba adds ~$4M in cap and they need to sign Haula, Nino, and Granlund to new deals. The latter two are coming off of bridge deals and just had career years. Even if they lost Staal it would still be almost impossible.

The Rangers might have to eat another player in the deal, and that really sours it for me. Pominville is the likely candidate, and he makes $5.6M for the next two years. Dumba for Stepan was sketchy as a base before and eating that contract makes it an absolute no-go unless they send along a damn nice sweetener.
 
Says their roster.

But hey I'll be happy to eat crow when we trade them Step for a haul

Of course then we have GAPING hole at center but maybe the d will be fixed? *Shrugs*
How do you know another center isn't added? But hey, keep up the snark.
 
I saw that but does that mean we definitely would not bring either player back? Is it possible we wouldn't qualify but bring one back later this summer?

It's possible. NJ has done it recently. Some times teams don't want to pay the player the QO amount, but are willing to negotiate a lower price. Pirri's QO would be 1.1 mil. The Rangers could refuse to qualify him and then offer him a contract at a lower number, but I doubt that will happen.
 
my not-a-chance-in-hell miracle scenario is Stepan+ for MacKinnon.

I don't really want Galchenyuk, but would anyone three way for Drouin? I don't like the hole at center (see above miracle scenario) but it could be an interesting trade scenario.
 
If Stepan is traded, I would be okay with going with Zib, Hayes, Oscar down the middle this year. It may or may not work. We'll have to see how it plays out. If it does, great. If it doesn't work, we look to address it at the deadline or next summer.

Maybe we get a prospect center back in the deal for Stepan, or in a separate deal. Maybe that prospect is close to NHL ready and will be ready later this year or next year. We don't have to solve all of our problems right now. Let's make sure they are actually problems before we worry too much about addressing them.

This^. So much this^.

Too many posters here have the leash too far on choke mode.
Let them play.
Like I said many times, make AV bend buckle and break whether he likes it or not.
No more 2 gazillion line changes every game, most lines.

We are not married to Hayes for all eternity.
But we do have to give adequate time before we get guys like Vesey, Hayes, etc, and then move on to repurpose assets.
If we don't observe this, we will not be at top of list for many freebie college etc FAs.

And once and for all people, please lighten up on the Hayes bashing
There is room for improvement but for a guy with his size, he skates more than well enough.

It is finally clear Zib is staying

the anti-Miller crowd and Hayes haters now have to give it up.

Stepan IS going
Hayes stays.
The new young core at pivot is Zib/Miller/Hayes/Lindy/Nieves
 
Would anyone do Nash to Dallas for Rousell, ANA 1st and a 2nd? Would Dallas?

Best on Nash is NOW pre draft to SJ for 2017 1st, ELC Bergman and 7ish m in cap relief.

that pick makes it easier to
flip our 21OA w/Raanta for 16OA

can then add to that 16OA and move further down
 
Trade Hayes for Eberle + if his value has tanked that much lol, we can figure out the cap somehow, Eberle is still very good.
 
Best on Nash is NOW pre draft to SJ for 2017 1st, ELC Bergman and 7ish m in cap relief.

that pick makes it easier to
flip our 21OA w/Raanta for 16OA

can then add to that 16OA and move further down

You keep tossing out this trade as if it makes sense for Sharks... It doesnt... Also, Bergman isn't very good so so him being on an ELC doesn't really matter.
 
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