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Speculation: Roster Building Thread DCLXXIX: Countdown to the draft (and the other draft)

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Gardner McKay said:
Strome + 7 AINEC.

I would keep Strome and then package our 21 + 7 to move as high as possible. Think 7 + 21 is enough to get the #2 pick?

Grab Patrick or Nico. Trade Hayes for a defenseman.

Bingo, bango, bongo we are all set. Then I wake up and realize it was all just a dream.
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I'm not so sure the #7 and #21 picks are enough to get you the #2 pick. I look at it as if I had the #2 pick, I would likely not make that swap.
 
Gardner McKay said:
I dunno. I think the 21st + 2nd is a hefty price to pay to move up from 7th to 2nd. It isn't like we are trying to jump from 15th to 2nd.
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Tough to sell that to your fans though. Bad season and then you win the lottery, only to turn around and trade that pick to one of your biggest rivals for lesser draft picks in an already iffy draft.
 
BrooklynRangersFan said:
Yup. And I'm absolutely okay with that. That's reasonable.

It's the idea that those three PLUS Domi, Strome, and Dvorak are all also off limits that ticks me off.

You want a first line center with team control for four years (in a market that can't attract good players) and your offer starts with your SEVENTH best asset (SIXTH best prospect)? GTFO.
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As I said in response to XX, I want to trade Tambellini for Keller, but that's not happening either.

You have to give to get and it all depends on how badly Chayka wants Stepan
 
Hire Sather said:
OEL is fair to hold back.

If we're trading for an unproven prospect I want my pick of their best, so no the other two being off limits is not fair.

It was mentioned below. Step is in his prime, signed for 4 more years at a reasonable contract in a market where they can't attract anyone.

They can keep hoarding prospects and finishing 13th every year or they can cash in those assets.

I hang up on them if they take any prospect off the table.

But.. I don't want prospects for Stepan anyway so I have no interest in Arizona as a trade partner.
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Only a few players out of Arizona really interest me (apart from OEL). Domi, Chychrun, Dvorak.

Dvorak is more of a project than the others in my eyes. I feel Chychrun could slot in on our second pair at the start of next season. Domi is a winger, so less interested since we have depth there.
 
Griffinbw said:
Only a few players out of Arizona really interest me (apart from OEL). Domi, Chychrun, Dvorak.

Dvorak is more of a project than the others in my eyes. I feel Chychrun could slot in on our second pair at the start of next season. Domi is a winger, so less interested since we have depth there.
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Isn't Chychrun a LD? Makes no sense to trade for him with McD and Skjei here.
 
Gardner McKay said:
Respectfully, I disagree. I think this is exactly the draft where you trade up to #2 as we can afford to do it. Do you think we would be able to afford to do it in next years draft?

Although Nico or Nolan likely aren't going to be McDavid or Matthews by any means, it doesn't mean they will be a Yakupov either.



Bingo.
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From a what it would cost stand point? Eh, if it were the Flyers I'd agree with you.

From a value standpoint? I disagree. I think you're just as likely to draft an impact NHL player at 7 than you are at taking those guys. Then again, if they moved up to 2 I'd want them to take Makar :laugh:
 
Chief Ranger said:
I'm not so sure the #7 and #21 picks are enough to get you the #2 pick. I look at it as if I had the #2 pick, I would likely not make that swap.
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Maybe. I think the 7th + 21st + 2018 2nd is enough to get the Flyers to consider it.

Berserk said:
Tough to sell that to your fans though. Bad season and then you win the lottery, only to turn around and trade that pick to one of your biggest rivals for lesser draft picks in an already iffy draft.
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This is a very good point. I didn't think of it that way. From a marketing and fan aspect the hype around Nico or Patrick would be huge.

We also need to replenish our prospect pool so keeping both would be a good thing. However, its all moot as Stepan will likely be still be a Ranger come Saturday morning.
 
Geoff Gorden said:
From a what it would cost stand point? Eh, if it were the Flyers I'd agree with you.

From a value standpoint? I disagree. I think you're just as likely to draft an impact NHL player at 7 than you are at taking those guys. Then again, if they moved up to 2 I'd want them to take Makar :laugh:
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I guess... I was just looking at it from the perspective of our C depth being:

Zibanejad
Nico/Patrick
Strome
Lindberg

drool.

Wishful thinking for sure. I rarely ever go out on a limb like that with a proposal so don't come after me with pitchforks and torches just yet :laugh:
 
Gardner McKay said:
I guess... I was just looking at it from the perspective of our C depth being:

Zibanejad
Nico/Patrick
Strome
Lindberg

drool.

Wishful thinking for sure. I rarely ever go out on a limb like that with a proposal so don't come after me with pitchforks and torches just yet :laugh:
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That would be an unbelievable turnaround in center depth :popcorn:
 
Chief Ranger said:
I'm not so sure the #7 and #21 picks are enough to get you the #2 pick. I look at it as if I had the #2 pick, I would likely not make that swap.
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Actually, it's more than enough. A 2nd round pick is the value to move up 4-5 spots. Another 1st is plenty to make that move. However, with one of Glass, Vilardi or Petterson likely available at 7, I don't see a need to give up another asset to get one of Hischier or Patrick. This isn't a McDavid/Eichel situation.
 
Gardner McKay said:
I guess... I was just looking at it from the perspective of our C depth being:

Zibanejad
Nico/Patrick
Strome
Lindberg

drool.

Wishful thinking for sure. I rarely ever go out on a limb like that with a proposal so don't come after me with pitchforks and torches just yet :laugh:
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Where the hell is #1 center Boo Nieves?
 
I think Patrick is worth it. Clear #1 center. I'd applaud the Rangers for turning Stepan into him. And I think it's worth further depleting the team's resources to do. Nothing more valuable than an elite #1 center.
 
jas said:
Actually, it's more than enough. A 2nd round pick is the value to move up 4-5 spots. Another 1st is plenty to make that move. However, with one of Glass, Vilardi or Petterson likely available at 7, I don't see a need to give up another asset to get one of Hischier or Patrick. This isn't a McDavid/Eichel situation.
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You think Vilardi would be around at 7?
 
I'd do rotten things to add Strome to this organization. If he puts it all together, he's going to be a force at this level. 60-70 point player. Watching him in the OHL last year was a tragedy. Was child's play for him.
 
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