Speculation: Roster Building Thread 2019-20: Part XXVIII

[LaffyTaffy]

We will sign someone

Gonna use one of those 7ths

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

We will sign someone

Oh I’m sure as teams start waiving schlubs at the deadline, Quinn will be begging Gorton to pick one up for “energy”

 

[RangersFan1994]

there goes the season

They better call someone up other than Nieves. One of Lettieri, O'Regan, Kravtsov please

 

[RGY]

They better call someone up other than Nieves. One of Lettieri, O'Regan, Kravtsov please

Why do they need to call someone up right now? Although Lettieri probably deserves a look too.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

They better call someone up other than Nieves. One of Lettieri, O'Regan, Kravtsov please

It's pretty telling of our forward depth when when these are the names talked about for a call up.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

They better call someone up other than Nieves. One of Lettieri, O'Regan, Kravtsov please

Not sure why we would call up Lettieri, a guy who has shown nothing ever at the NHL level

 

[Shesterkybomb]

there were loads of people wanting to give him a 5x5 deal, and using Tony D tweets to dunk on people who questioned the logic of giving Strome term only weeks ago.

no one hates him. People have rightly questioned whether a guy who barely shoots would continue putting up big numbers. (He also takes a billion penalties but no one says a word)

No one says a word? The guy gets unfairly dumped on here 24/7. 1 pim more than tony d and 18 short of Kreider, nobody talking bout that though.

 

[NYRangers0723]

No one says a word? The guy gets unfairly dumped on here 24/7. 1 pim more than tony d and 18 short of Kreider, nobody talking bout that though.

Nobody hates him. But he has fallen back to earth despite continuously playing with Panarin. I think fans just don’t want to give him a big contract and I agree with that. Other than that I like Strome

 

[Raspewtin]

No one says a word? The guy gets unfairly dumped on here 24/7. 1 pim more than tony d and 18 short of Kreider, nobody talking bout that though.

this is disingenuous

Kreider has 5 less minor penalties taken than Strome and has drawn 11 more than Strome. Stromes penalties are almost exclusively stick penalties and he has one of the worst penalty differentials for forwards in the league. he’s extremely lazy and undisciplined and it’s not at all because he’s chippy and involved.

 

[Thirty One]

We need better answers as to what this organization could do to replace Kreider, Strome, and Fast at the forward position before we even think of secondary moves on guys like Buchnevich.

That's a full top nine forward line likely gone for next season.

I don't think Buch would be traded for picks, I'd imagine if he is moved, there would be a forward coming back.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

Provided they would actually listen to offers, what other additions (either way) would it take to pry Newhook out of Colorado, with Kreider going the other way?

 

[EdJovanovski]

Friendly neighborhood lockerroom cancer

 

[Shesterkybomb]

this is disingenuous

Kreider has 5 less minor penalties taken than Strome and has drawn 11 more than Strome. Stromes penalties are almost exclusively stick penalties and he has one of the worst penalty differentials for forwards in the league. he’s extremely lazy and undisciplined and it’s not at all because he’s chippy and involved.

That's an opinion yup

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

That's an opinion yup

Have you ever heard Quinn call Strome out?

He’s the only one that matters, who cares if people are shitting on Strome here

He takes stupid penalties consistently and gets away with it when other forwards would be benched or demoted

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Have you ever heard Quinn call Strome out?

He’s the only one that matters, who cares if people are ****ting on Strome here

He takes stupid penalties consistently and gets away with it when other forwards would be benched or demoted

So he must be doing something right wouldn't you say, can't imagine a coach putting him on the ice to make himself look bad. It's funny how people dump on Stome for penalties and attribute his points to Panarin, but refuse to paint Kreider with the same brush, its hilarious. Similar thing with Pionk last year, meanwhile he is minute munching on the Jets top pair and only 5 points back of Tony the great. Who's next once Strome leaves? I guess we already started on Trouba so probably him.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

So he must be doing something right wouldn't you say, can't imagine a coach putting him on the ice to make himself look bad. It's funny how people dump on Stome for penalties and attribute his points to Panarin, but refuse to paint Kreider with the same brush, its hilarious.

So you’re saying he’s doing something right by taking bad penalties consistently?

It’s pretty clear Strome has a longer leash from Quinn

Also his penalties and production via Panarin are both hard facts, there’s no denying this stuff.

 

[Ola]

I like Strome. I’ve said many times that was a great trade. However I do think Panarin is a main reason why he had that hot streaks that’s just the truth. Doesn’t mean he is bad because he has been good. I’m just not comfortable giving him a big contract. Even with a Panarin he has fallen back to earth. I think he is best suited as a third liner

Certainly, but the problem I have is that he isn’t strong enough individually with the puck to make players around him get up ice and establish pressure etc. He isn’t a driver.

If we can get a good return for him I think Gorton should pull the trigger. But I don’t think we are in any hurry.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

So you’re saying he’s doing something right by taking bad penalties consistently?

It’s pretty clear Strome has a longer leash from Quinn

Also his penalties and production via Panarin are both hard facts, there’s no denying this stuff.

I wonder why he has a longer leash? Things that make you go hmmmmmmm? Maybe he is one of our better forwards right now and that gives him one, or maybe Panarin likes his style of play, or maybe without him we have no depth whatsoever, but ofcourse all that is irrelevant because HATE STROME.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Certainly, but the problem I have is that he isn’t strong enough individually with the puck to make players around him get up ice and establish pressure etc. He isn’t a driver.

If we can get a good return for him I think Gorton should pull the trigger. But I don’t think we are in any hurry.

Who said he had to be a driver? He isnt being paid like a top 3 player why should we be expecting him to be one. Also, who is going to trade a better player for a guy who has only played well since he got here last year? The return we get for him will most likely make us a worse team, he fits with Strome, maybe people should ask the question, why is Fast on with Panarin and Strome, if either panarin or Strome have a bad night the line has one good forward.

 

[Blue Blooded]

So he must be doing something right wouldn't you say, can't imagine a coach putting him on the ice to make himself look bad. It's funny how people dump on Stome for penalties and attribute his points to Panarin, but refuse to paint Kreider with the same brush, its hilarious. Similar thing with Pionk last year, meanwhile he is minute munching on the Jets top pair and only 4 points back of Tony the great. Who's next once Strome leaves? I guess we already started on Trouba so probably him.

He is 8 points behind Tony, which is quite significant in only 55 games. Additionally, 20 of them has come on the PP and he is continuously unable to score at even strength. Now he might be the best PP defenceman in the post-lockout era as his point production so far in his NHL career suggests, but that does not check out with the eye test at all.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

I wonder why he has a longer leash? Things that make you go hmmmmmmm? Maybe he is one of our better forwards right now and that gives him one, or maybe Panarin likes his style of play, or maybe without him we have no depth whatsoever, but ofcourse all that is irrelevant because HATE STROME.

Or coaches have favorites and Strome is one of Quinn’s

And again you’re just disregarding all the hard numbers about Strome’s play.

Yes a lot of his points are tied to Panarin. Yes he takes a lot of penalties and draws not nearly as many. He’s like top 5 in the league with this

 

[Tob]

I hope Kuemper is set to come back at some point ortherwise Chayka might be forced to sell on Hall.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

If Kreider is traded, could you see the Rangers making a pitch for Rakell? Or does a guy with two years left (3.79M cap hit) not really fit the timeline?

Rakell and Zibanejad were dynamite together at the WHC, and obviously if the Ducks are listening to offers, the Rangers with their group of young talent are a team you hope to hear from.

Nils Lundkvist stands out as a young player who would represents a big organizational need for Anaheim.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

If Kreider is traded, could you see the Rangers making a pitch for Rakell? Or does a guy with two years left (3.79M cap hit) not really fit the timeline?

Rakell and Zibanejad were dynamite together at the WHC, and obviously if the Ducks are listening to offers, the Rangers with their group of young talent are a team you hope to hear from.

Nils Lundkvist stands out as a young player who would represents a big organizational need for Anaheim.

I never thought I would see the day where a defenseman represents a big organizational need for Anaheim. Crazy

 

[Shesterkybomb]

He is 8 points behind Tony, which is quite significant in only 55 games. Additionally, 20 of them has come on the PP and he is continuously unable to score at even strength. Now he might be the best PP defenceman in the post-lockout era as his point production so far in his NHL career suggests, but that does not check out with the eye test at all.

Not after today, he had 3 points. And I believe the eye test on this forum is referred to as the bias against some not others test.