Speculation: Roster Building Thread 2019-20: Part XXVII

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If that's what you got from it then may God have mercy on your soul.

He has a very valid point. People just keep pushing the same BS repeating themselves constantly while discussions go absolutely nowhere.
So then stop reading and go somewhere else. This is what happens here. We argue points to help pass the day along.
 
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Do you really see the Rangers drafting first or second this year or next? I don't. And of course we all want a stable of high-end 19 year forwards. Who doesn't? It's just not realistic. I would say drafting top 5 is even a stretch unless they get super lucky with the ping pong balls.

If we trade Kreider and then maybe one or two more of Georgiev, Fast, Strome, Buch, or Skjei, then I could see us falling into the top 7 or 8 draft slots. We won the lottery last year from that range.

Now, I'm not counting on winning the lottery again. But even from pick 7-8-9, it's within range to trade up to 5 or 6 with a small add (like a defensive prospect such as Hajek or Robertson or Jones, and maybe a future second or third or something).

And at 5 or 6, well, you aren't getting Lafrieniere, but you are getting top-line projected players in Holtz or Raymond or Stutzle, probably.

That's what we need.

Whereas if we clutch all our cards, and Kreider remains hot, and we finish 12th, well, the prospect you are looking at there is no where near the caliber of those top guys.

It's 100% realistic for us to maneuver our way into trade range to get another top guy this year. It just requires some asset management. Unfortunately, that means parting with Kreider most likely, so that you not only lose more this year ourselves, but also give ourselves the late first asset that we can use in a trade up if needed.
 
@Edge what do you think are the chances NYR move out a roster player this deadline to sign Kreider? (Assuming they agree on a deal)

Well, I don't know if they'd necessarily be with the intent of signing Kreider, but Fast is a candidate to move, and I still think guys like Buch, Strome and Georgiev are all candidates to be moved beyond the deadline.

Now having said that, some of those guys bring salary back, so I don't think it's quite a matter of clearing $3-$4 million per move. The actual cap difference might be significantly more modest.
 
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Ah, the prodigal son

That 2010 draft was one of their weird ones where a lot of people thought the Rangers wouldn't pass on Fowler, and there were reports that Gordie was high on him. But the Rangers liked McIlrath more.

Kind of like 2018. Rangers really liked Wahlstrom, they liked Kravtsov just that much more.
 
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Rumors that Krug isn't going to resign in Boston. What would we have to add to Skjei to get a signed Krug? Also how much is a signed Krug, similar to Trouba? Would love to have him but is there a way?

more small defenseman no thanks, already have DeAngelo and Fox. need a balance of guys that use their size and quick guys that can skate. unless DeAngelo or Fox gets trade which should NOT happen, Rangers don't need Krug. now get me Carlo or McAvoy
 
That 2010 draft was one of their weird ones where a lot of people thought the Rangers wouldn't pass on Fowler, and there were reports that Gordie was high on him. But the Rangers liked McIlrath more.

Kind of like 2018. Rangers really liked Wahlstrom, they liked Kravtsov just that much more.
I always like Kravstov. mcilrath made no sense. We used a top 10 pick on an...enforcer.
 
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The Rangers are 9 points out of a playoff spot with 1 game in hand. In the west, they'd be 4 points out with 2 games in hand. They would actually control their own playoff destiny in the west.

Buffalo and LA at home, then Winnipeg, Minnesota and Columbus on the road. Columbus has been playing very well lately, but the others are bad to mediocre. 9 games left before the deadline.

We've won 3 of 4 since the break, with the loss coming to a western team. I'd love to see us win our next 3 or 4 and go into Columbus with real playoff aspirations on the line.
 
That 2010 draft was one of their weird ones where a lot of people thought the Rangers wouldn't pass on Fowler, and there were reports that Gordie was high on him. But the Rangers liked McIlrath more.

Kind of like 2018. Rangers really liked Wahlstrom, they liked Kravtsov just that much more.
Of the 3 guys you listed, I would say Nurse and Hanifan are 1A/1B I'd like, and Fowler is the clear #3

Although Fowler has been better this year.

Hanifan doesn't seem like much of an upgrade over Skjei though
 
Of the 3 guys you listed, I would say Nurse and Hanifan are 1A/1B I'd like, and Fowler is the clear #3

Although Fowler has been better this year.

Hanifan doesn't seem like much of an upgrade over Skjei though

I'd be curious to see how/if the Rangers potentially approach upgrades to the LD that don't involve using Skjei as the primary piece.
 
more small defenseman no thanks, already have DeAngelo and Fox. need a balance of guys that use their size and quick guys that can skate. unless DeAngelo or Fox gets trade which should NOT happen, Rangers don't need Krug. now get me Carlo or McAvoy
To be fair McAvoy is not big himself. 6’0” is not short but it is not big.

Nurse would be a great add.
 
I'd be curious to see how/if the Rangers potentially approach upgrades to the LD that don't involve using Skjei as the primary piece.
I was thinking that as well

I could see a situation where they trade Skjei and maybe Buchnevich for Hanifan or Nurse+

But I don't know if that's actually realistic
 
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