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Speculation: Roster Building Thread 2019-20: Part XXVI

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SA16 said:
Why would we even want to bring Eichel here? He's a losing player. If he's not good enough to help Buffalo win why would it be any different here? He's not a guy you win with.
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People said the same thing about Ray Bourque. Ryan O’Reilly. Doug Weight. Marc Savard. The list goes on and on

Also if this was the line of thinking is McDavid in the same camp?
 
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Siddi said:
According to Quinns presser Hank is the #1 goalie. Does that mean Georgie is a goner and that Shesty will be the backup for the rest of the season?
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thats not what was said

the reporter asked him if he still thinks hank can be a number one goalie in this league and quinn replied YES. That was the correct and professional thing to say. Obvious from his start count since last year that is not the case here.
 
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Kovalev27 said:
thats not what was said

the reporter asked him if he still thinks hank can be a number one goalie in this league and quinn replied YES. That was the correct and professional thing to say. Obvious from his start count since last year that is not the case here.
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I have now rewatched the presser with headphones and yes, you and Vitto79 are correct. I have edited my post accordingly.
 
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bobbop said:
Not advocating or speculating, just reporting...

On NHL radio this afternoon, Mike Chambers, Avalanche beat writer for the Denver Post was talking about the team. When asked about areas that Sakic might shore up, he brought up goaltending and casually dropped Henrik’s name into the conversation. The only name he specifically mentioned.

Just sayin...

I know this has been reported before but I am a bit surprised that it is still being talked about.
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I would be all for it. He deserves a cup! Not even worried about the return. Reminiscent of bourqe.
 
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NYR Viper said:
I’d have no issue giving ADA 6 years at $7m per season. None
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I think that’s a bit on the high side. But in spirit I’m with you. It’s just “one of those things”. ADA is that good and he’s blossoming. It may be costly. It may be bad timing in that it probably means someone else will have to go to afford him. But that’s life. Can’t fight it. The dude is a star. I tip my hat and pay up.
 
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I don’t blame them entertaining moving Skjei but I hope they have a plan on who’s replacing him

A lot of kids
 
Alexei Kovalev 27 said:
I get it...but makes me nervous.
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I think that's understandable.

With rare exception, there are going to very few situations where everything feels right and it's a no-brainer.

Either a guy is getting older, or he's had some injuries, or he's young and there's fear he could get comfortable, or he's had a somewhat inconsistent past, or he's still a bit of an unknown, etc.

I think all of those concerns can be very valid. But when push comes to shove, I think you gamble on young talent who is showing signs of doing good or great things. And ADA is a young talent who is showing signs of doing some elite things. And at some point, because those guys don't come around very often, you take the chance with the knowledge that you could get burned. Or you could reap the rewards for the next half-decade.
 
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I don’t see why tony won’t be signing a similar contract to the bridge deals given out last summer. Werenski McAvoy perfect examples.

2 or 3 year deal with the highest salary on year 3 for the qualifier. I don’t see them going long term with him. I’ve said this since day one. You don’t have to worry about trading him until fox proves himself worthy of big money. You don’t trade him because of a prospect in Sweden either as good as he’s been. Tony is a stud right now he’s 24 years old why were even discussing trading him as a rebuilding team is honestly laughable.

my guess is another bridge deal 2 or 3 years and that’s when things are revisited. Right now Fox makes less than a million dollars we need to improve our blueline not make it worse.
 
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jas said:
Giving ADA $7 million per to be an top end offensive Dman bothers me a hell of a lot less than giving Brady Skjei almost $5.5 million per to be a middling 2nd pairing Dman.
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Interestingly enough, Skjei was a guy who, not unlike Adam Fox, came into the league producing at a pretty high rate --- perhaps higher than most would've expected before the season began. And there was the thought it was only onward and upward from there --- we're talking about a guy who finished at 40 point pace compared to the 46 point pace Fox is currently on.

But he never hit that next level and more or less settled in the role he was originally projected to occupy before his rookie season took a lot of people by surprise. That's one of the reasons why I am hesitant to assume Fox goes onward and upward from here. Don't get me wrong, he very well could. He's a very talented kid, but he could more or less maintain his current level of play. That would be a very good thing, but not necessarily a reason to move a guy like ADA just yet either.

Having said that, I could use this example and apply it to ADA. But I do think there are some differences when talking about ADA. I think most people felt he had this kind of production in him, it was whether or not he could actually put the pieces together and get there. So it's not like this a kid who put up good, but necessarily great numbers as a junior and then suddenly found a new level. Dan Boyle was always seen as a possible end-game for him, and the season he's having is very much in the vein of a young Dan Boyle, only he's doing it sooner than Boyle did.

At the end of the day, a big contract does represent a risk for the Rangers. The question is whether that risk is worth it? In my opinion, it does.

But, we have to see what the actual demands are. I'm thinking $5-$6 million. I could be way off, and that changes the conversation a bit. So I want to find out what we're actually looking at first.
 
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NYR Viper said:
People said the same thing about Ray Bourque. Ryan O’Reilly. Doug Weight. Marc Savard. The list goes on and on

Also if this was the line of thinking is McDavid in the same camp?
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McDavid played in the playoffs in 16-17 and his team is currently third in their division - 4 point out of first with a game in hand.
 
Edge said:
I am confused here by these Roster Building threads.

On the one hand, when it comes to signing Kreider, at age 29, we cite all the money coming off the books, the ways we can make it work, and how he is likely to maintain his level of play through the contract.

When it comes to signing ADA, at age 24, apparently none of that money is coming off the books, we have to trade him now, and he's going to get hit by a bus and his play is going to collapse.
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Amen.
I just think back- how good could we have been if we had Leetch and Zubov for years.
That is what we are growing with Fox and ADA. Let that be our strength. Don't diminish it.
Good offensive D-men can help forwards be in positions to score. Better breakouts, opportunities, etc...

Would you rather a bunch of Girardi's chipping and chasing, which ultimately impacts our offense as we have less potential zone time?
 
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