Speculation: Roster Building Thread 2019-20 Part XXV

[Good Intentions]

Watching the Oilers/Flames games and the Oilers should really be inquiring about a package of Skjei and Georgiev, they need a LOT of help on the defensive end

...then why would Skjei be of interest?

 

[Good Intentions]

Remember, Carolina is going to have some familiarity with the Rangers personnel in the aftermath of the Fox trade.

I know everyone has visions of Kapanen or Labanc dancing in their heads, but I can’t help but feel the market might still be a second round pick. And the Canes own the Rangers second round pick...

Entirely feasible, logical, and even intelligent detective work - but I don’t want it.

 

[egelband]

This is what is hard in the NHL. The decision making part of it. Stick-handle, skate, shoot, there are many in the hockey world that can do that. But to make the right decision in situations where it really is literary a split decision call, that is tremendously hard. And when a PMD drives the puck up center ice zig zagging between forecheckers the passing option to the LW can be the right call at 12 minutes and 30 seconds and 50/100 of a second into the 1st period, and but 75/100 of a second later it can be the right call to pass it to the center instead. From day one TDA has just delivered in this area in a jaw dropping fashion. I used the term "I am blown away..." by his play in that area from Day 1 and I think that was fitting.

Yep. This is my contention too. Foot speed means very little to me. I want brain speed. The guy that knows where to be first and where to put the puck before everyone else knows. That’s Hockey Speed.

 

[leetch99]

I remember repeatedly saying that no one should view ADA as a throw-in and that the Rangers specifically targeted him. But I can’t even pretend to say that I expected ADA to be doing what he’s doing at this point.

Pushing for 40, maybe 50? Sure, that was within the realm of expectations if everything fell into place.

But pushing past 50? Even presenting the possibility to challenge for 60? At 24 years old? Can’t say I would’ve taken that bet.

I always figured he had superb offensive talents after watching his passing skills which were crisp and hard and then when he danced laterally across the blueline on the PP he was almost in a league by himself and something we lacked for a long long long time . Place your thoughts back to when McDonagh always handled the puck like it was dynamite , Grardi with no offensive skills and Staal with his 50 % vision ..... I could not believe we actually had found a guy with that much natural talent . Did I know he would score 50 ? NOPE...never even gave it any thought actually . I just knew he made us better on break outs and the PP two areas that are essential in a speed/up tempo game . You get a guy like that you don't entertain trade offers at this stage . Worse case scenario and it would have to be worse case ...you move somebody to the left side and if that does not work...entertain a deal for Fox if you can't bridge him for a few years until we are past our Cap crisis. ADA is most likely the very last thing on Gort's playbook of things to get done at the moment . Georgiev,Strome, Fast ,Kreider, Buch , Andersson and not in any given order likely more of a priority for the club at the moment .

 

[Kaapo Cabana]

so this is our 3rd offseason?

 

[Kovalev27]

Anyone that saw what DeAngelo did in absolutely destroying juniors should not be surprised at what he’s doing today. Highly touted first round pick that just needed to grow up a bit.

but this is not out of left field this was always his upside.

 

[leetch99]

I think all the DeAngelo trade talk is way to premature. Unless the contract talk goes really sour I doubt we will see him moved until Fox are done with his ELC. In 2 years time Keane or Lundkvist should really be pushing for a spot. DeAngelo as either a RFA finishing a 2 year bridge or on a longer contract should hold a massive value around the league. A 50+ point RD, with very impressive advanced stats, and still just entering his prime should return a top prospect in our position of need, or a very high draft pick.

I believe we all like DeAngelo a ton, and its confident his ability has not peaked yet. I can't really remember a compareable trade, but it should net us atleast 1 long time peace for a team taht should be able to challenge for the cup over a long period.

Great post..."premature" ...being the KEY !

 

[nyr2k2]

We really shouldn't include Keane in the conversation with DeAngelo and Lundkvist. DeAngelo has star talent, Lundkvist may as well. Keane is more like a solid 4-6 guy IMO if he hits that ceiling.

 

[Ardi44]

where did Friedman comment on those possible contract details for Kreider?

 

[LaffyTaffy]

I dont think we should be adding in a trade for Kurt MacDermid

 

[EpicDing]

where did Friedman comment on those possible contract details for Kreider?

His weekly 31 Thoughts article, #5 31 Thoughts: Maple Leafs' fortunes will decide deadline approach - Sportsnet.ca

 

[rangers1314]

His weekly 31 Thoughts article, #5 31 Thoughts: Maple Leafs' fortunes will decide deadline approach - Sportsnet.ca

The big news in here is that Thornton may be open to being traded at the deadline. Wonder if he'd be open to a reunion with DeBoer in Vegas.

 

[EpicDing]

The big news in here is that Thornton may be open to being traded at the deadline. Wonder if he'd be open to a reunion with DeBoer in Vegas.

Thornton to Vegas would be something haha

 

[RangerBoy]

Remember, Carolina is going to have some familiarity with the Rangers personnel in the aftermath of the Fox trade.

I know everyone has visions of Kapanen or Labanc dancing in their heads, but I can’t help but feel the market might still be a second round pick. And the Canes own the Rangers second round pick...

1/3 of the players taken in the 2nd round make the NHL. The Rangers are going to trade Georgiev within their own division for a 2nd round pick. Can we trade him to the western conference if the return will be a 2nd round pick?

 

[charliemurphy]

I don’t have details, it’s only a hunch based on comments and feedback that San Jose was stepping up their pursuit. Not even sure if it’s them or if they are pushing another team like Toronto to close the deal.

You know who I can’t quite shake off as a dark horse, yet again? Carolina.

They’ve supposedly pinged the Rangers, maybe even on more than one front. I just can’t help but think they might be a team that kind of swoops in on a player if they really him.

Would love to trade with Carolina.
Lots of picks in the first 3 rounds including the 2nd from Fox and prospects like Bokk, Puistola and Kuokannen. Curious to know if they've asked about Skjei and Georgiev. Would make for one hell of a trade.

 

[TheBPA]

You'd think after the Mike Hoffman fiasco that people would get over not trading a player within the division if that division rival is offering the best trade package.

 

[apoptygma]

We really shouldn't include Keane in the conversation with DeAngelo and Lundkvist. DeAngelo has star talent, Lundkvist may as well. Keane is more like a solid 4-6 guy IMO if he hits that ceiling.

Having a 4. dman playing as the 6. on a cheap contract would be a great asset. Heck even a above 6. dman playing in the 6. spot will be a good thing as long as he is not overpaid. I would be very comfortable having a cheap good 6. dman playing in the spot if it means we can get a kings ransom for say ADA and Lundkvist and put those assets into other positions they can make more of a difference.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

You'd think after the Mike Hoffman fiasco that people would get over not trading a player within the division if that division rival is offering the best trade package.

This can't be said enough. San Jose turned Bødker and Bergman and a 6th into Donaghey, a 2nd, a 4th and two 5th rounders.

They just turned around and traded him to Ottawa's division rival for a better return

 

[LaffyTaffy]

1/3 of the players taken in the 2nd round make the NHL. The Rangers are going to trade Georgiev within their own division for a 2nd round pick. Can we trade him to the western conference if the return will be a 2nd round pick?

Thats a very interesting stat, I wonder if the odds of Robertson and Henriksson making it are 33%. Certainly seemed higher than that on draft day.

 

[LaffyTaffy]

This can't be said enough. San Jose turned Bødker and Bergman and a 6th into Donaghey, a 2nd, a 4th and two 5th rounders.

They just turned around and traded him to Ottawa's division rival for a better return

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i definitely think if we can get a division tax from Carolina it would be the best trade available. Something like a 2nd plus Gauthier or Kuokkanen maybe. I think thats realistically the best we can do. A solid bottom6 player with offense and a top 50 pick (provided its our 2nd rounder)

 

[RGY]

In a casual discussion yesterday - I heard this.
“LA might have some interest in Lias Andersson as a reclamation thing. If he shows he can still play his hockey at HV. His Dad being there and all makes it kind of intriguing. LA has some interesting pieces but will rebuild. Rangers need a solid piece to police the blue line. They are likely going to buy out Staal unless he goes on LTIR.

A big tough and youngish guy like Kurtis MacDermid as a 3 LD that can play hockey but clean the crease would fit the Rangers long term plans. An offseason deal. Maybe with a small NYR add.”

They have Lindgren. They dont need another physical 3rd pair D.

I would rather just hold onto Lias then.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

i definitely think if we can get a division tax from Carolina it would be the best trade available. Something like a 2nd plus Gauthier or Kuokkanen maybe. I think thats realistically the best we can do. A solid bottom6 player with offense and a top 50 pick (provided its our 2nd rounder)

And that's fine. Just don't reject a better offer just because it's from a division rival. That's the stupidest thing ever

 

[Vitto79]

i definitely think if we can get a division tax from Carolina it would be the best trade available. Something like a 2nd plus Gauthier or Kuokkanen maybe. I think thats realistically the best we can do. A solid bottom6 player with offense and a top 50 pick (provided its our 2nd rounder)

Yea I’d take our 2 back and Gauthier . He can slide right in now

 

[rangers1314]

They have Lindgren. They dont need another physical 3rd pair D.

I would rather just hold onto Lias then.

That, plus I don't see the point in buying out Staal with 1 year remaining.

 

[True Blue]

Yeah, different circumstances and everything, sure. But just as a player, you seemed to have little respect for what Yandle brought. Scoffed at the idea he was an elite offensive defenseman. Now with DeAngelo you're noting how rare it is for a defenseman to be doing what he's doing.

When Yandle gets on a roll like DeAngelo has been on for a year, please let me know. Also when a 23 year old Yandle starts producing as such for a rebuilding Rangers team instead of not puttering along on what is supposed to be a strong playoff contender, let me know that one as well.