Speculation: Roster Building/Rumor Thread XVIII

[Fitzy]

If the Rangers aren’t offering Schneider or Lundkvist as pieces for Eichel, Drury isn’t that seriously chasing him

 

[rangers1314]

If LA does bring Danault in, they’d almost certainly look to move one of their centers. No?
Kopitar-Danault-Byfield.

Turcotte, Thomas, Kapuri with nowhere to play.

 

[bleedblue94]

I would be on board with Dvorak. If he adds 15 points he’s a two way complete 2C signed at the same hit Strome was for what 3 or 4 years? There’s upside there, but there’s also upside in Chytil (offensively for sure)

And see I think having a mid 6 of dvorak and chytil allows the players to define their roles with their play and further development. Right now if strome is back he is going to center panarin again and chytil will be in the 3c role again. That isnt changing no matter how much the analytic guys want it to. If strome is gone than it opens up the option for chytil to earn that spot next to panarin, but I see no way this team is going to pen him in for a 2c role for which he has never been slotted before. If they did that and they were wrong they would have to make a panic trade 20 games in for a c and it would be more costly to do so than now.

 

[Avery16]

Please go subscribe to another hockey club. You are insufferable at this point. Every single thing they do is met with negativity.

As insufferable as you might find me, I don’t feel so privileged that I’d tell people to stop posting on a public site. You’re no gatekeeper.

There’s a feature for moving on from a particular back and forth when you cannot do it for yourself. I suggest you use it.

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

And see I think having a mid 6 of dvorak and chytil allows the players to define their roles with their play and further development. Right now if strome is back he is going to center panarin again and chytil will be in the 3c role again. That isnt changing no matter how much the analytic guys want it to. If strome is gone than it opens up the option for chytil to earn that spot next to panarin, but I see no way this team is going to pen him in for a 2c role for which he has never been slotted before. If they did that and they were wrong they would have to make a panic trade 20 games in for a c and it would be more costly to do so than now.

Are you thinking something like Chytil/Dvorak interchanging as a 2C option here?

 

[bl02]

why? Pay them to be Rangers so kids get less ice time and they leave?

What’s the point?

Not sure any of those three would eat into ice time. I mean I would hope not especially pp time for Laf and KK/VK. Strome would be gone if Krejci came I would imagine. Halak purely back up and Chara paired with Nils. We desperately need a vet LD Chara or not. I think realistically probably only Halak of the three if we trade AG.

 

[bleedblue94]

real deadline for eichel has been july 28 for weeks. the fact drury isnt offering our top assets yet isnt surprising bc if he did at this point that would have just helped adams drive up the cost taking the offer back to other teams. tuesday into wednesday morning teams will start upping offers to try to get the eichel thing settled prior to ufa. once teams start handing out ufa contracts it will be that much harder to fit 10mil salary moving around, and from buffalo's perspective I would much prefer 2022 picks opposed to 2021 picks, even if 22 picks have certain types of protections on them.

 

[cheech70]

And see I think having a mid 6 of dvorak and chytil allows the players to define their roles with their play and further development. Right now if strome is back he is going to center panarin again and chytil will be in the 3c role again. That isnt changing no matter how much the analytic guys want it to. If strome is gone than it opens up the option for chytil to earn that spot next to panarin, but I see no way this team is going to pen him in for a 2c role for which he has never been slotted before. If they did that and they were wrong they would have to make a panic trade 20 games in for a c and it would be more costly to do so than now.

I get all that BUT there comes a time to shit or get off the pot. Filip is untouchable in deal for Eichel...so Filip neds to play top 6. OK he and Bread don't mix..

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[bl02]

What would you guys think of Georgiev for Zadorov?

I would do it if you can guarantee me a decent backup. Not a big fan of Strome or AG but no way is Drury going into next year with a team that wants to compete for a playoff spot and maybe even more without replace them with another 2c and decent backup.
I don't think he's ready to make Chytil our 2c with Pararin and Goodrow our 3c

 

[bleedblue94]

Are you thinking something like Chytil/Dvorak interchanging as a 2C option here?

I am looking at it like if dvo came here let he and chytil battle it out for the 2c spot during camp. whoever earns it gets the chance, and if that player doesnt run with the opportunity than the other is a viable option to slot in. as long as strome is here chytil has no chance to get off the 3c, although I am not inclined to simply move strome and slot chytil as the 2c. he MIGHT be the guy there and he might not be, but I think he has earned an opportunity to get a look. the issue continues to go back to last year when they shouldve slotted him in that role down the stretch to give him a look and pairs kreider with strome again on the 3rd line (they played very well together while panarin was on leave). instead they wasted the opportunity and now they are going into this blind.

 

[bleedblue94]

I get all that BUT there comes a time to shit or get off the pot. Filip is untouchable in deal for Eichel...so Filip neds to play top 6. OK he and Bread don't mix..

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i dont see how/what just making our third line from last year into a second line this year does to make this team better. for a team set on making the playoffs this year that is a horrible plan...

 

[bl02]

I really would prefer to go the dvorak route at this point if eichel isnt happening. I am really not wanting to invest the money and term in danault, but if everyone around the league is placing huge value on centers in trades than we may have no option but to sign danault if they want to make a significant change at center for next year. I just cant see anyway that they come back with the three of zib/strome/chytil

Why not? I mean if we lose Strome for nothing after hopefully a competitive year oh well. What are we gonna get for him now a third and a marginal prospect? If we are not in a playoff race then sell him at the deadline.
Last thing we should do is sell Strome for peanuts and sign Danault for 6 X 6...ugh.

 

[bleedblue94]

Why not? I mean if we lose Strome for nothing after hopefully a competitive year oh well. What are we gonna get for him now a third and a marginal prospect? If we are not in a playoff race then sell him at the deadline.
Last thing we should do is sell Strome for peanuts and sign Danault for 6 X 6...ugh.

bc that mix of centers is about vanilla as it comes and center has been an issue here for years, it is very clear the team wants to change the mix. I dont want to sign danault, i literally said i want to get dvorak if the eichel deal doesn happen...

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

I am looking at it like if dvo came here let he and chytil battle it out for the 2c spot during camp. whoever earns it gets the chance, and if that player doesnt run with the opportunity than the other is a viable option to slot in. as long as strome is here chytil has no chance to get off the 3c, although I am not inclined to simply move strome and slot chytil as the 2c. he MIGHT be the guy there and he might not be, but I think he has earned an opportunity to get a look. the issue continues to go back to last year when they shouldve slotted him in that role down the stretch to give him a look and pairs kreider with strome again on the 3rd line (they played very well together while panarin was on leave). instead they wasted the opportunity and now they are going into this blind.

Zibanejad, Dvorak, Chytil, Goodrow, Rooney, Barron? as options down the middle wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. If Rangers found someone else they liked better, Dvork and/or Chytil's contracts would also be easily movable down the road.

If all AZ wants is picks sign me up.

 

[bl02]

With any of these guys, the question will be about downstream roles and cap hits. It's gonna be tricky enough to get Fox, Kakko, Lafreniere, and others locked up long term down the road. Can only spend so much on role players.

I mentioned Stastny before, but I'd be open to a lot of the veteran C options- Krejci, Getzlaf, etc provided they only sign for one year.

Short term deals exactly. If not then no way we should hand out 6 plus million for 6 plus years to an ok center.
That is why we wanted so desperately to draft a center any of the last 3 years. Let them marinate then come up to play a cheap 2c/3c role. Now we have to be a bit more creative unless some of the lower round center picks we made last few years become decent NHL players

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Sign Zibs for 5 years 8.5M - best case scenario
Sign Fox for 8 years $7.5M - best case scenario
Sign Chytil 6-7 years $4M

Trade for Dvorak
Trade Strome for Soucy + 2022 2nd

Panarin Dvorak Kravtsov
Lafreniere Zibs Kakko
Kreider Chytil Goodrow
Barron Rooney Blais
*Ideally Goodrow and Blais would be swapped. Don't see how you sign a guy for 6 years to start him on the 4th line.

Lindgren Fox
KAM Trouba
Soucy Lundkvist

Fox starts at 9 mill.

 

[bleedblue94]

Zibanejad, Dvorak, Chytil, Goodrow, Rooney, Barron? as options down the middle wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. If Rangers found someone else they liked better, Dvork and/or Chytil's contracts would also be easily movable down the road.

If all AZ wants is picks sign me up.

the interesting thing with dvo is that three of the remaining four years of his contract his actual salary is MORE than his cap hit, and we all know that isnt something the coyotes like on this roster...

 

[bl02]

bc that mix of centers is about vanilla as it comes and center has been an issue here for years, it is very clear the team wants to change the mix. I dont want to sign danault, i literally said i want to get dvorak if the eichel deal doesn happen...

Would love Dvorak as well but be prepared to give up to get. Arizona is not taking strome for Dvorak. Would you trade Kravy? one of our Stud d men? Maybe one of those plus a first next year?

 

[bobbop]

Kadri is UFA after this season. Turns 31 in October. Would be another awkwardly timed UFA negotiation to add to Zibanejad.

Yes but it allows you to use your available cap this year. Money will be a lot tighter next year,

 

[bl02]

Zibanejad, Dvorak, Chytil, Goodrow, Rooney, Barron? as options down the middle wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. If Rangers found someone else they liked better, Dvork and/or Chytil's contracts would also be easily movable down the road.

If all AZ wants is picks sign me up.

Arizona should want picks plus one of our young wingers or young dmen.

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

Would love Dvorak as well but be prepared to give up to get. Arizona is not taking strome for Dvorak. Would you trade Kravy? one of our Stud d men? Maybe one of those plus a first next year?

Someone in here forgot who mentioned they are looking for as many picks as they can get.

 

[bobbop]

Please go subscribe to another hockey club. You are insufferable at this point. Every single thing they do is met with negativity.

Second

 

[bobbop]

Arizona should want picks plus one of our young wingers or young dmen.

Picks plus Georgiev?

 

[bl02]

Someone in here forgot who mentioned they are looking for as many picks as they can get.

I heard that as well but I can't believe that would be smart. I mean if they were trading a high priced OEL sure but a young Center on a decent contract. They would be idiots. especially when those picks won't be top 10.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Im out on eichel, either our offer sucks or they want too much, one way or the other he's not coming here until the following year if he gets to his nmc. If I'm drury i just say, "i believe Jack is a good fit here, maybe when he dictates where he goes he can decide that too and as of now we are out." Throw some doubt on teams that might wanna aquire him.