The bottom D pairing shouldn't be a black hole. The grit, physicality, in your face forecheck, whatever you wanna call if of the bottom 6 should help a lot. The big three maturing (Kravy, Kakko, Lafreniere) is the biggest factor. oh and we have a real NHL coach which should help. Yes we lost a legit top 6 RW but again if Kravy/Kakko/Lafreniere don't make progress (or at least 2 of the 3) we are not a better team even if we made zero moves this offseason.
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Jim Ramsay
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I think the overall line up is way more balanced, and now we have bottom six forwards that KNOW their role.
The biggest risk was letting trading Buch, but I think if their is improvements from Krav/Laff/kakko we wont notice Buch's departure.
If those kids dont step up, we will have huge problems.
As someone that never agreed or understood the Quinn hiring, (unproven college coach?) I am very excited to see what Gallant can do with this group
The biggest risk was letting trading Buch, but I think if their is improvements from Krav/Laff/kakko we wont notice Buch's departure.
If those kids dont step up, we will have huge problems.
As someone that never agreed or understood the Quinn hiring, (unproven college coach?) I am very excited to see what Gallant can do with this group
Chytil absolutely has the hands and talent to play more than just north/south. I think Quinn preached north south and he did anything he could to get ice time, but chytil is absolutely capable of meshing with panarin's e/w game.
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I think he has the hands but not the vision or IQ
It’s not just that. A lot of people are acting like we only added Blais, Goodrow, Nemeth and Reaves. In reality, we are also “adding” Kravtsov because he really only played the tail end of the year, as a 4th liner, Lundkvist and potentially Barron. We go from rolling a super green rookie Miller, along with some combo of Bitetto, Hajek and Smith to rolling one of the best prospects in the world and a competent full time NHLer in Nemeth. We lost Buch but are adding Kravtsov, Goodrow, Blais, Reaves and potentially Barron/Hunt. The overall is a net positive, for sure. Plus a new coaching style that allows the KK’s and Laf’s to actually have some leash and try to produce? I think we’re bound to better and a lot more multifaceted.
I think the knocks on his IQ are premature. Lets see how he does with more time, and a better coach and see if those still stand.
PuckLuck3043
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Injuries are always the wild card but even if we don't make any additional moves there is no question in my mind we will be a more complete and competitive team. Last year I thought they would be a bubble team but would likely be on the outside looking in. This year I do expect them to get in.
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bbny
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If this is how the team looks to start the year, then Drury really messed up the Buchnevich trade. That trade only starts to make a little bit of sense if the cap space is properly utilized, because otherwise they could have kept him on a 1 year deal at the least and either traded him for at least as much at the deadline, or used him for a playoff run.
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Buchnevich was probably the most gritty forward on our team last year. If we wanted a culture change should’ve traded Mika
Carmelo came to NY in the back half of his career. Eichel was drafted to Buffalo and they were supposed to build around him. Not similar at all actually
Oh I’m 100% on your side about not wanting to trade Buch. (Hey btw you getting a Buch ***Blues jersey? As someone who collects jerseys I m tempted to
)Late edit sorry lol, was thinking Coleman for some reason
I don’t think Zibby should be traded unless his contract demands are through the roof though
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Im not a fan of the trade return either but i do think we have enough top 6 wingers without him and they need ice time too. I look at it like trading Buch for Blais and Goodrow, i think that makes us better considering we had guys who can move into a top 6 role. Don't like the trade but the team is better.
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I should because every time I get a players jersey they get moved, so maybe Buch will get traded back to the Rangers if I get a Blues one. I have a Buch & DeAngelo jerseyOh I’m 100% on your side about not wanting to trade Buch. (Hey btw you getting a Buch ***Blues jersey? As someone who collects jerseys I m tempted to
Late edit sorry lol, was thinking Coleman for some reason
I don’t think Zibby should be traded unless his contract demands are through the roof though
for my next Ranger jersey I want to get someone who not everyone has, so I’m thinking Kravtsov or Shesterkin. Hopefully I don’t curse them too
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The loss of Buch really messed you up
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bbny
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Zibs is the poster boy for the softness of the team last year. Doesn't utilize that 6'2 215 pound frame much at all, and notably didn't care to get involved physically after the Wilson game. Even Strome dropped the gloves...
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Change is good.
Criticizing your number one center for not getting into a stupid brawl in a game that didn’t matter when he’s got a history of concussions is certainly a take.
Mika did nothing for half the season and still led the team in goals.
40 goal scorers have a place in any culture. Buch is a bit cray and can throw a flying cross check with the best of them, but he’s never been able to play through tight checking. A year from now we’re going to be VERY happy we didn’t extend him.
Mika can play a physical game and when he's on he absolutely does. Without fighting.
There’s no way this team is going in or coming out of camp as is. If strome was a long term option, he would have likely been extended already. We are heavy at RW.
Kakko
Kravtsov
Blais
Goodrow
Reaves
Gauthier
Our Defense is
Lindgren-Fox
Miller-Trouba
Nemeth-Lundkvist
Robertson-Schneider
Jones-Hajek
Tinordi
I get that guys like what we have built, and I get they they don’t want to give prospects away. But if you guys think this log jam is going to last for more then a year your kidding yourselves.
Winning the LaF and Kakko picks have accelerated this rebuild to the point now where playoffs and beyond is the thinking. With the moves Drury has made and the draft picks they have made the rangers top 9 and top 4 D is pretty much locked in for the next 4-6 seasons.
this is likely our Foundation going fwd
LaF - Zibby/Eichel-Kakko
Panarin-Trade/Chytil- Kravtsov/Blais
Kreider-Barron/Chytil/Trade-Goodrow
4th line- UFAs/ internal kids/ minor trades
Lindgren-Fox
Miller/Robertson/Jones- Trouba/Schneider
3rd pair- UFAs/Minor trades/ internal kids.
Shesty
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More then Likely Lundkvist is trade bait. Excellent prospect, but if he doesn’t move to the left side, he’s not going to get enough minutes/situations to optimize his talents. He’s a great piece that will likely bring back another great piece. He’s not going to simmer on 3rd pair for 3seasons before we move trouba. It’s not realistic and it looks like they want Schneider taking that role in the future anyway. He’s also very close to the nhl.
Miller could find himself as trade bait if he’s displaced by Nils or Robertson.
The 4th line and 3rd D pair aren’t going to get big minutes, nor have big money spent on it. That’s why no teams do it.
This is the good and the shitty part about having a lot of really good prospects in all the same age ranges. It’s a great problem to have, but there’s not enough spots. You can only park kids in the A for so long before you do more harm then good for their development.
Rangers 3 main questions
1 Zibby or Eichel as your long term 1C for the next 5 years. Odds are on Zibby.
2 whose your 2C. Is it chytil? Or is an immediate upgrade needed?? Long term????
3 whose your long term 3 C??? I’m hoping it’s Barron. Could it be Chytil?? What do the rangers ultimately want out of that line??
these questions have to start being answered soon. Because for some of these players it’s almost shit or get off the pot time with a lot of these decisions.
If drury is looking to build a contender while he’s still getting panarin and Zibby playing at a high level, he’s not going to play wait and see too long with the other 2 Center positions.
It’s not exactly a buyers market for youthful talented Centers. If he feels like Larkin or Dvorak is vital to this vision, it would be very silly to not strike because you don’t want to give up a 1st, or a Prospect in a log jammed position. It’s not going to work out like that.
This is pretty much the last year they can role like this without seeing 1 or 2 significant trades. I expect that to be sooner rather then later. I hope it’s a show me year for Barron and he locks 3C down, and IMO it’s a put up or get traded Year for chytil. If he doesn’t take steps with his consistency and more minutes I’d wager he’s being traded.
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lest we forget when he bullied Dillion off a puck to score a game winner late in the season and did it again vs someone else to set up a goal a few weeks later.
Some people are convinced here that toughness and grit are defined by throwing hits that get you suspended or giving people
Dirty looks between the whistles.
EdJovanovski
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When Wilson attacked Buch, Zibanejad was actually the closest player to the play and literally skated away, while little Panarin was the furthest away and skated straight over and jumped on Wilson’s back. That said a lot
WojtekWolski86
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Along the lines of my disdain for trading for Eichel...when you have a history of head/neck injuries you will shy away from contact. Ziba used to be physically engaged then 3 or so concussions in 2 years will make you gun shy.
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What happened to Shesty and his deal? Wasn’t it close a few days ago? That’s gone cold
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