Speculation: Roster Building Frenzy Part XX

[tomobson]

I really feel the rangers are kicking the can on the center situation till the next offseason. Dvo is interesting to me but only because of his contract. I think the team is going to find out what they actually have in Chytil this season. If he steps up we have a Mika/Chtyil top two with Barron/Goodrow at 3c. If Chytil struggles they probably find better centers available next offseason to move forward. The other option is the Sorbos buckle and accept a paltry return for Eichel from the rangers but I feel they rather move him to any other team for less.

 

[haohmaru]

There's tremendous upside in trading for Dvorak, limited to no downside.

AT ABSOLUTE WORST he's a 40pts 2way middle6 center.... the horror.

He's never hit 40 in 5 years in the NHL - and that's with scoring 25% of his points on the PP. No idea how he'll mesh with Panarin. Losing a bunch of assets the other way. Hell, I'd rather slot Chytil in there and see what happens before I'm sending all kinds of shit to Arizona for Dvorak.

 

[rangers1314]

 

[haohmaru]

You think we're re-signing Strome long term?

I think a lot of that depends on the growth of Chytil as a Center. If Chytil excels in the role, you send Strome packing at the deadline for picks.

 

[WojtekWolski86]

I don't put any concern into the official site that is probably run by an intern.

 

[Blais to Win]

That's the beauty in it. In the event Chytil takes off, then Dvorak can slot in at the 3C. A capable 2way center. We need 3 good centers. If Chytil struggles? there's no answer long term.

That's correct but is Dvorak our best option at 3C? Barron is under a million. We have Goodrow signed. Just acquire someone later if Chytil fails.

 

[Blais to Win]

I don't put any concern into the official site that is probably run by an intern.

I used to run the New England Revolution website and this take is correct.

But the implication is still frightening.

 

[NoQuitInNewMexico]

I don't put any concern into the official site that is probably run by an intern.

It might have clued us in on Kakko or someone getting covid during the season before the story broke? But yeah, these things are just run by some guy

 

[Barnaby]

I think we could get a 1st from a team like Minnesota. 2nd(s) from teams like Ottawa and Seattle.

The cost is not that bad. I'm not a proponent to trade 1sts for rentals... but in this scenario our entire roster, for all intents and purposes, is solidified for the next 5+ years. Minor tweaking here and there but does a mid-late round 2022 1st rounder make an impact to this team anytime soon? Our top9 is all but locked down. We have too many players as is. We have even more players in the farm developing.

So we are getting Dvorak for 2 seconds and trading Strome for a 1st? Meanwhile, according to you Dvorak is clearly better, younger, and has term...?

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

 

[haohmaru]

That's the beauty in it. In the event Chytil takes off, then Dvorak can slot in at the 3C. A capable 2way center. We need 3 good centers. If Chytil struggles? there's no answer long term.

So we're sending a 1st in an incredibly deep draft and a top prospect for a 3C making 4M+?

I don't mind Dvorak at all. I mind the cost. The 1st bothers me - if we're dealing then I'd much prefer a top prospect (ie.. Jones), a middling prospect (Barron?) and one of our two 2nd's. I'm not sending a 1st the other way if that's the cost.

 

[wafflepadsave]

I don't put any concern into the official site that is probably run by an intern.[/QUOTE.
Who just went back to school.

 

[Blais to Win]

Well, Eichel is still on the Sabres roster.

 

[Barnaby]

He’s also younger and signed to a good deal for 4 more seasons.
I loved how everyone says he it’s what he is. But when strome got here, his offense went to the next level with panarin. I’m not saying DVorak matches his numbers exactly, but you will see an increase. If chytil intimately takes steps over him as the 2C, he becomes an excellent 3C. It’s a no lose situation

How about all of the guys we’ve acquired who didn’t “go to the next level...?”

Im not a huge Strome fan, but he does have chemistry with Panarin. There’s no guarantee that Dvorak does. There’s no guarantee Dvorak goes from 40 points to pushing 60.

 

[haohmaru]

Well, Eichel is still on the Sabres roster.

Hope it stays that way.

 

[rangers1314]

Well, Eichel is still on the Sabres roster.

Considering his head is totally detached from his body, do they need 2 entries for him on the roster?

 

[tlk]

I believe it was during the BLM protests and eichel was completely silent, and then when people were wondering if any buffalo player would say anything, he came up with a statement that went after property damage and ignored everything else entirely.

Really?

Spoiler

YEAH BABY BRING EICHEL HERE ASAP PLEASE

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

Barron & Chytil for Eichel confirmed E5

 

[Synergy27]

I’m not a huge Strome fan. I am in the camp that expects Chytil to be this team’s 2C when/if they win, and with a more well rounded C essentially splitting middle 6 time with him.

That said, I’m not convinced Dvorak is that guy. He’s only decent on the draw, and he has more giveaways than takeaways over the past couple of years. He’s closer to neutral in that respect than Strome, but he plays a far more conservative game.

I am officially hopeful for what Strome can do under Gallant. The guy was openly rebelling against Quinn last year. That’s problematic in and of itself, but I would like to see if Strome can become a more complete player under a coach that commands some respect and employs a system that is, I dunno, a system.

 

[Blais to Win]

Considering his head is totally detached from his body, do they need 2 entries for him on the roster?

There is an asterisk. I didn't read further but if I'm guessing it probably said something about him being a stupid acquisition for a team that has a virtual clone of him as 1C already.

 

[RangerBoy]

Jack Eichel's doctor said it would take 6 weeks for Eichel to recover from the disc replacement surgery. I read it would take 2-3 months. Best case scenario is 6 weeks. Let's go with 6 weeks. Next week is 6 weeks away from when NHL training camps start. The NHL season begins on October 12. NHL training camp is 20 days long. Camp will starts around September 22. The longer it takes Buffalo to make a deal for Eichel, it decreases the amount of time Eichel will have to be ready for the start of camp and the start of the season. Buffalo can say we have plenty of time for a team to fork over a prime young player in addition to 3-4 other assets.

The clock on Eichel's availability will start ticking soon.

I don't want Eichel on the Rangers but I hope the Sabres get screwed.

Eichel has a serious neck injury which requires surgery. The Sabres want to make believe Eichel is perfectly healthy. He needs neck surgery. It's either an experimental neck surgery or a spinal fusion which one player in the NHL has come back from and remained a good player. It's not some random surgery. Eichel doesn't have a bad knee or hand. WTF.

 

[duhmetreE]

So we're sending a 1st in an incredibly deep draft and a top prospect for a 3C making 4M+?

I don't mind Dvorak at all. I mind the cost. The 1st bothers me - if we're dealing then I'd much prefer a top prospect (ie.. Jones), a middling prospect (Barron?) and one of our two 2nd's. I'm not sending a 1st the other way if that's the cost.

The scenario you just mentioned means we're winning. We'd have a stacked lineup. IF Chytil takes off, we have 3 good centers, phenomenal wingers, great depth, solid defense and potentially great goaltending.... and that lineup would be kept together for quite some time.

You're going to argue a 1st rounder, that's unlikely to make a difference on this team in the near future, is going to hold it up? In hopes that 1st rounder can be as good as Dvorak.

 

[cheech70]

If GG gets the Rangers in the hunt by January....Strome may become a self rental...maybe trade him sooner than later

 

[duhmetreE]

So we are getting Dvorak for 2 seconds and trading Strome for a 1st? Meanwhile, according to you Dvorak is clearly better, younger, and has term...?

No, according to me, Jones and a 1st is the base of the trade. MAYBE adding Georgiev ( to Jones) brings it to 2 2nds. ( PREFERRED for obvious reasons )

Strome recouping a late 1st or early 2nd.

 

[cheech70]

Jack Eichel's doctor said it would take 6 weeks for Eichel to recover from the disc replacement surgery. I read it would take 2-3 months. Best case scenario is 6 weeks. Let's go with 6 weeks. Next week is 6 weeks away from when NHL training camps start. The NHL season begins on October 12. NHL training camp is 20 days long. Camp will starts around September 22. The longer it takes Buffalo to make a deal for Eichel, it decreases the amount of time Eichel will have to be ready for the start of camp and the start of the season. Buffalo can say we have plenty of time for a team to fork over a prime young player in addition to 3-4 other assets.

The clock on Eichel's availability will start ticking soon.

I don't want Eichel on the Rangers but I hope the Sabres get screwed.

Eichel has a serious neck injury which requires surgery. The Sabres want to make believe Eichel is perfectly healthy. He needs neck surgery. It's either an experimental neck surgery or a spinal fusion which one player in the NHL has come back from and remained a good player. It's not some random surgery. Eichel doesn't have a bad knee or hand. WTF.

Sounds like it could be a legal clash. ...who has the right to decide medical treatment? Management or the player??