Value of: ROR to the Leafs at the deadline.
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PocketNines
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I wouldn't expect him to be packaged with ROR. If we get a 2d+ I will shrug and say, that's decent, but too bad because some years the market covets these players a little higher.
They do, but this is arguably the deepest deadline in terms of talent we have ever had and we are still 7 weeks away other guys will hit the market
I don't think this is the year Barbashev lands a 1st
2024 1st + Robertson + 2023 3rd
for ROR + Acciari?
That alone would get you ROR. Acciari is a valuable piece. Low salary and can play outstanding two way hockey. Robertson future is bleak.
for ROR + Acciari?
That alone would get you ROR. Acciari is a valuable piece. Low salary and can play outstanding two way hockey. Robertson future is bleak.
PocketNines
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The Blues don't have much incentive to combine our assets unless it makes the top end piece coming back pop more, which this does not.
2 2nds.
It will be a 2023 first. Army is not going to want a 2024 first unless its accompanied with more....
ROR would be a great addition to any team for the POs. That being said, isn't he on LTIR with a broken foot with a ? as to whether will be back for deadline?
Price of 1st + was already a bit ridiculous for a guy who's a pure rental posting career worst numbers across multiple categories (g, a , pts, +/-, FO, etc). Can't see the injury helping matters.
Price of 1st + was already a bit ridiculous for a guy who's a pure rental posting career worst numbers across multiple categories (g, a , pts, +/-, FO, etc). Can't see the injury helping matters.
No he will be back that was just a habs fans wishful thinking, It's a broken f***ing foot I'm sure it sucks but It's not THAT serious
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Leaf fans have said numerous times they do not wish to include Knies, which I fully understand as we wouldn't trade Snuggerud if we were in the same situation. Nothing personally towards you, but I think it's about time we Blues fans stop asking for him as I can imagine this might get annoying for them. Compare it to the numerous annoying Parayko to the Leafs posts in the past.
Personally I'd rather focus on Fraser Minten as the prospect coming back: also quite highly touted but not untouchable (yet). O'Reilly@50% for Minten, a 1st (or 1st value equivalent) and Kerfoot as capdump (who we try to flip to another team @50% for another pick/prospect).
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A very good thing to discuss, since we know that Dubas likes to have term when he acquires a player. Giordano came as a rental, but he was extended. It's reasonable to think that Toronto would like to have any player they pick up beyond just one playoff run.
If ROR can maybe be extended for a reasonable price, then he's more appealing to Toronto.
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ATM O' Reilly's caphit is $7,500,000. With his age, how he played this season and taking into consideration the fact that a lot of contenders are capstrapped, I can't imagine that number going up but rather going down.
I wouldn't be surprised if a team offers him a contract in the 6-6,5 million range for 4 years purely based in his merits. And yes, that contract could be really bad in a couple of years.
If I were you guys I'd be very interested in trading for him as a rental (as he excels in the playoffs and might very well push you to the 'favorites category'), but looking at your other contracts I wouldn't sign him to a longer deal unless he's willing to sign a contract quite a bit below 6 million on a shorter deal.
PocketNines
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I'd rather have a 1st + a Tippett-quality prospect than Knies, and I certainly don't want to offer Acciari up for free as a sweetener.
This is less than the Blues can get for these two assets.
2nds was reference to barbashev, 1st plus b prospect + for ror with retention and cap dump.
OK was making sure. Barbs low cap hit can be a perfect addition. To stacked team. Pk pp and third line center. Everything a cup contender could need for cheap
I agree I've said many times if the Leafs landed ROR and Barbashev that would be a VERY smart move, a very expensive move but very smart.
But Barbashev by himself is a 2nd and 3rd type player that again you might get 2 2nds for.
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I have no idea what it would cost the Leafs, but getting ROR in that roster would be so nice. Maybe this is the move and this is the year Leafs finally lift it.
At the trade deadline wouldn't ROR's cap hit be about 25% of that 7.5 million though? Less than 2 million
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Toronto has accrued 1.1 million to date, mostly due to Muzzin. So if 50% retained, looks like it could work.
Unless it gets eaten up by a player coming back from IR or LTIR.
Habs Halifax
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Poster will blame me for talking about the broken foot and then you ask the same question and you will get targeted and bullied too.
Right now, ROR is on IR (not LTIR) and he is scheduled to be re evaluated in mid Feb. That would be 6 weeks from when he broke his foot. Usually it's 6-8 weeks of recovery time and we like to think he will be 100% for the playoffs.
I also see a player who is soon to be 32 and not having a good production year and then breaks his foot. He's got a lot of milage on him too. But so many fans are just going to ignore this and belittle you for saying it. No doubt he will still get interest but I don't see the point of ignoring context surrounding him and not being allowed to talk about it without out other posters trying to belittle you.
I do see him helping a team a lot if he is 100% healthy come playoffs.
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As Golden_Jet said it could work @50%. And if we take on Kerfoot's contract you'll have some capspace left to upgrade another (defensive?) position.
I see the Kerfoot contract as interesting. His contract (in our view) has negative value, however, he will still have value if we flip him @50%. As he's mostly payed in signing bonusses (just like O'Reilly), a contender could get a decent 3rd line forward who's dirt cheap in actual money (just like O'Reilly). However, unlike O'Reilly he does have some tradeprotection in a M-NTC, unfortunately.
Gio was extended but not until the off season an extension probably isn't a factor in a trade
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