Proposal: RNH For Your 3C and Spare RHD

[major major]

As a Jackets fan, I am more than interested in acquiring RNH, but I don't think we have the pieces EDM would be interested in. Unless for some reason they are interested in Jack Johnson....which I seriously doubt. BUT in the case of the interests of the OP, a deal could be made.

edit: I would think hard about the Dubi+Savard for RNH+Fayne deal. Wouldn't do the Wennberg+Savard deal though, unless a significant plus is coming back (salary reasons, as well as because Wennberg has a high ceiling and is only in his third year).


Counter proposal:

Wennberg + Savard for Draisaitl + Fayne

From the Jackets perspective you really prefer

Wennberg + Savard for Draisaitl + Fayne

over

Dubi+Savard for RNH+Fayne

?

That's a bit surprising to me.

 

[blinkman360]

Cizikas + Boychuk

Value is terribad for Edmonton, but Chia has shown he's willing to get ripped off trading star FWDs for D as well as get ripped off by Snow.

In reality the best NYI could do is likely Nelson (if you think he's capable of playing C, I personally don't like him there) + Boychuk.

I'd package a lot to get rid of Boychuk's contract, but not Cizikas. Would easily trade Brock before him. I cringe at the thought of our lines without Cizikas holding down the 4th. He's been fantastic for us in every aspect of the game.

 

[CanadienShark]

Eller + Bowey for RNH + Davidson

Eller ideal 3C, big and fast for matchups against big centers.

Bowey 2nd pairing all around right handed PMD with top pairing ceiling. Unproven but so was Parayko and he looks like he'll be a home run.

Davidson expendable with all other Oiler LD, Klefbom/Russell/Sekera/Nurse/Larsson this year and Bowey over Russell next year.

IDK make cap work somehow. Caps have something to run against Hagelin-Bonino-Kessel and Davidson improves their backend mobility.

RNH >>>>>> Eller
Davidson ≈ Bowey

I lol'd.

 

[34]

RNH will not get you a top 4 D. Another Edmonton bust.

 

[McWeber]

From the Jackets perspective you really prefer

Wennberg + Savard for Draisaitl + Fayne

over

Dubi+Savard for RNH+Fayne

?

That's a bit surprising to me.

I love RNH but I'd probably pull the trigger on the second deal. Dubinsky would be my ideal 3C and Savard is a top 4 RHD.

 

[I am not exposed]

I disagree. I will give my reasons.

-We already have Larsson, Klefbom and Nurse. All quality defenders whom at least 1 will become a #1 in their prime. Hopefully all 3

- we would have to give up more core pieces to get this #1 and there is no way we give up anymore save Eberle.

-we already have 3 defenders we have to protect, a 4th would screw over 3 forwards we could otherwise protect.

Its not a good time and I think we should just develop the ones we have.

That is very hopefully thinking all three of those defenders will become a number 1! Nurse at best tops out as a number 3.

 

[AvroArrow]

Really weird wording.

 

[Spektre]

Rather Lehtera owing to contract length, and isn't Berglund Yak's babysitter right now anyway?

Blues could roll RNH-Stastny-Berglund down the middle. Any combination of Tarasenko, Schwartz, Steen, Fabbri, Yakupov and Perron with that group would be deadly.

Lehtera and Shattenkirk is still preferable even with the risk of Shatty cutting and running, but Lehtera and Schmaltz as a long-term package isn't bad. Just wish Schmaltz had some NHL experience.

If the deal was Shattenkirk + Lehtera I would imagine Edmonton would have to be adding in a deal involving RNH. No real good idea what the + would be other than a pick, maybe a 1st.

It's true Berglund is playing on a line with Yakupov but Berglund is really better on the wing than at C.

 

[WesMcCauley]

I disagree. I will give my reasons.

-We already have Larsson, Klefbom and Nurse. All quality defenders whom at least 1 will become a #1 in their prime. Hopefully all 3

- we would have to give up more core pieces to get this #1 and there is no way we give up anymore save Eberle.

-we already have 3 defenders we have to protect, a 4th would screw over 3 forwards we could otherwise protect.

Its not a good time and I think we should just develop the ones we have.

Nurse tops out a #3 at best. He is barely NHL ready atm. Would be better off in the AHL imo.
Larsson and Klefbom arent close to #1s. Not close to a sure thing that one of them turns into a a top 20 defensemen imo. Decent top pairing sure but dont see them getting into top 10-15 defensemen in the league.

You can protect 8 skaters instead of 7 forwards and 3 defensemen. Eberle, Nuge, Lucic, Drai, Sekera, Klefbom, Larsson + another defensemen

 

[bossram]

Want a RHD? Take RealGoodbranson. We'll take RNH. Please and thanks.

 

[clunk]

Want a RHD? Take RealGoodbranson. We'll take RNH. Please and thanks.

This. I would kill to have the Nuge. Oilers fans are so spoiled now lol

 

[BagHead]

In regards to the OP's proposal involving the Wild:
Value aside, which I don't think is far off, there are 2 problems:

1) With the signing of Staal for 3 years, it's unlikely the Wild need an established top 6 center in the near future. I think they'll be content to sit and wait for Koivu's term to expire, and in the meantime evaluate the young centers we have in our system to see if they can replace Koivu and Staal, before making any moves. So, long story short, the signing of Staal means we shouldn't be trying to add RNH.

2) Cap hit. You'd need to take more than Dumba and Haula off the books to fit RNH under the Wild's cap. We would have to move someone with a bigger cap hit, so likely a winger. The relevant contracts are Pominville, Coyle, and Granlund. The only one that makes sense from the Wild perspective is Pominville, and I don't think you guys are interested in him.

There just is not a deal at the moment that makes sense between the Wild and Oilers for RNH, unless it's a major "blowing up the team" sort of move.

 

[PatrikOverAuston]

Count how many RHD Chia has added . Benning is close to making the team full time , Bear has lock great draft +1 . I am really not as worried about a RHD unless he is a 45 + point guy

Notice how the selection of players I was responding to were actual NHL players. Benning and Bear could be Norris winners for all we know; however, they aren't big-league players today and might not ever be. The team needs a more established option, or at least a more experienced one.

Chia has made a ton of changes . Beating Calgary twice to start the season shows that . This team is new lets give them sometime to gel before making changes we could regret unless it moving no impact players , draft picks , rookies , Fayne and Pouliot

It's for those reasons that I believe a move should be made sooner rather than later. Why upset the apple cart three months from now when the roster has had time to gel? However, you work in a Shattenkirk etc. now and they can spend the first half of the season playing and developing together.

 

[Burnt Biscuits]

Nobody's soured, but people who actually pay attention to the salary cap know it's a potential problem that needs to be dealt with today. But, by all means, if your experience in NHL 17 tells you something different, go with that.

There is no salary cap implication that needs to be dealt with today, will there be a cap crunch at some point undoubtedly, but it sure as **** isn't here 2 games into the 2016-17 season. There is no way Draisaitl is going to command the kind of salary on his 2nd deal to put us in a bind. Going into next season we will have 9 of the forwards currently on our roster signed, 7 of the d-men, and Talbot; the only critical re-signing is Draisaitl the total cap-hit for that bunch is $53.9M (not including ELC bonuses for McDavid and Puljujarvi). There should be no dire salary cap implications until we extend McDavid which won't take effect till the 2018-19 season.

Also 2 of the deals in your OP with Trouba and Shattenkirk aren't really going to net us any meaningful cap-savings, I suspect Shattenkirk will actually cost more when he is extended. Lets enjoy having 3 quality centers for a while, given how our injuries lined up last year, we pretty much never had all 3 at the same time.

 

[Oilerglory]

As a Leaf fan RNH impressed me greatly with his play in the WC. Took his game to a new level.

He played how he always plays,try watching him more often

 

[Seachd]

That is very hopefully thinking all three of those defenders will become a number 1!

That's not what he said.

 

[BigWilly]

Kadri + C. Carrick

 

[57special]

He played how he always plays,try watching him more often

Hard to do if he's in the stands, injured.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Shattenkirk + Lehtera for RNH. Problem(s) solved.

Schwartz-RNH-Tarasenko
Steen-Stastny-Fabbri
Perron-Berglund-Yakupov
Paajarvi-Brodziak-Jaskin
Upshall Reaves

Bouwmeester-Pietrangelo
Gunnarsson-Parayko
Edmundson-Schmaltz
Bortuzzo

Edmonton gets to run:

Lucic-McDavid-Eberle
Maroon-Draisaitl-Kassian
Pouliot-Lehtera-Puljujarvi
Pitlick-Letestu-Slepyshev
Lander

Sekera-Shattenkirk
Klefbom-Larsson
Russell-Gryba
Fayne

IR: Hendricks Davidson

And you do realize that Shattenkirk already said that he wouldn't sign long term with Edmonton right. That's why the Larsson for Hall deal was done. Because Shatty has no desire to play in Edmonton long term.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

The title suggests we can trade Hayes and Girardi for RNH?

I will fly to New York, pick up those two and drive them to Edmonton myself

 

[Crede777]

From the Jackets perspective you really prefer

Wennberg + Savard for Draisaitl + Fayne

over

Dubi+Savard for RNH+Fayne

?

That's a bit surprising to me.

Yeah that first deal shouldn't fly for the Oilers.

I hate the current Jackets approach of seeking grit and character over pure skill, but a 1-2 of Draisatl and Dubois followed by Jones/Werenski/Murray on the back end? Come on...

 

[Canadian Canuck]

Sutter+Larsen

 

[MXD]

The Habs will gladly trade you David Desharnais and Mark Redmond.
The Oilers won't be so glad, however.

 

[MXD]

The title suggests we can trade Hayes and Girardi for RNH?

I will fly to New York, pick up those two and drive them to Edmonton myself

And I'll do the same, but I'm way closer than you to New York. So RNH for Desharnais and Redmond, it is.

 

[Homesick]

And you do realize that Shattenkirk already said that he wouldn't sign long term with Edmonton right. That's why the Larsson for Hall deal was done. Because Shatty has no desire to play in Edmonton long term.

Post a link or shut up with this crap