Oh, I don't think he gets traded. His name has been out there for too long, so clearly his value wasn't high enough to get what you're asking for. I'm just saying how this "Chia will never trade RNH" stuff isn't entirely true. He tried to trade him, even after trading Hall, so who knows now. Has the ship sailed? Most likely yes, especially with Yak gone, as Snipes mentioned. But I don't believe you can completely close the door on a player who the GM was so keen on moving previously. You never know.
Proposal: RNH For Your 3C and Spare RHD
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Oh, I don't think he gets traded. His name has been out there for too long, so clearly his value wasn't high enough to get what you're asking for. I'm just saying how this "Chia will never trade RNH" stuff isn't entirely true. He tried to trade him, even after trading Hall, so who knows now. Has the ship sailed? Most likely yes, especially with Yak gone, as Snipes mentioned. But I don't believe you can completely close the door on a player who the GM was so keen on moving previously. You never know.
Agreed, the oilers have 1 untouchable and his name is McDavid, everyone else can be had for the right price if it makes sense for the team.
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Did you miss the part where RNH both makes more than Bonino and is a borderline 1C? Edmonton can still run three strong centers, but they can't afford to pay the third-best one $6M. It's that simple.
They're blessed, yes, and as such should trade from a position of strength to address a weakness. Downgrading at 3C to do that isn't the worst price to pay.
Count how many right shots are in that group, and then how many of those right shots can quarterback a powerplay. You'll see the problem, I believe in you.
That's nice. Expectations change, especially when you find yourself a generational talent to lead the team. Much as McDavid supplanted Hall as the team's go-to player, Draisaitl has looked terrific in the 2C hole. RNH can be moved, even if he is himself still an excellent young talent.
Probably don't do it as Davidson is too nice an add, but not a bad offer I suppose.
I'd do this. Green's a local boy to boot and I'd love to see him feeding McDavid for breakaways.
As a Leaf fan RNH impressed me greatly with his play in the WC. Took his game to a new level.
Fair enough. The only player I would consider trading at this point is Jordan Eberle but even then we cant because hes the only one who even 1/2 gets Mc Davids play besides Draisaitl and TMac wont put them together.
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That's not bad IMO.
Currently, CBJ are having troubles at faceoffs. Wennberg, Karlsson, and Gagner are not good at them. To the point where Foligno is stepping in to take faceoffs and we (the fans) are talking about having Jenner do the same.
This makes us much, much worse for the foreseeable future.
RNH >>> Eller
Davidson >> Bowey (Next 2 years minimum, and I'm a fan of Bowey)
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What the Oilers need, I think their fans would agree, is a stud #1 D. That should be the target of any trade, not 3C's or more second rate defenders.
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Question - why are Oilers fans looking primarily for another RHD? If anything, I think they need a LHD to pair with Larsson and bump Klefbom to the 2nd pairing. A LHD would likely also cost less.
Not that I think Klefbom is bad. But if he is on the 2nd pairing, then that becomes two legitimate pairings who can handle 22+ minutes a night rather than one big pairing and one mediocre one.
Not that I think Klefbom is bad. But if he is on the 2nd pairing, then that becomes two legitimate pairings who can handle 22+ minutes a night rather than one big pairing and one mediocre one.
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Exactly. Even Eberle isn't realistic. TMac likes him with McDavid, plus he's a right handed shot which we need. I think we're done trading forwards, we've got a good locker room.
We're a better team without Hall and Yakupov in the locker room as harsh as that sounds. We've got a good balance now and an all in team first mentality. I doubt Chia moves Eberle or Nuge at this point.
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We have Klefbom, Sekera, Russell, Nurse, and Davidson who are left shot Dmen.
For righties, we have Larsson, Fayne (who is in the press box), Gryba, and Benning. We have a dearth on the right side.
Anyways, Chia isn't moving Nuge. Nuge plays an important defensive role for us, he's too valuable. The only deal I'd do involving Nuge or Drai would be for Parayko straight up. Not trading Nuge for lesser parts.
We have one right shot who should be playing every day in Larsson. Not to mention he's far being an established natural PMD. The need is there for a guy who can create offense.
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I think CBJ fans are not sold on RNH. I am, but I'm admittedly in the minority.
I'd do either of the Jackets proposals in this thread. Both fit the premise of the thread perfectly.
As a Jackets fan, I am more than interested in acquiring RNH, but I don't think we have the pieces EDM would be interested in. Unless for some reason they are interested in Jack Johnson....which I seriously doubt. BUT in the case of the interests of the OP, a deal could be made.
edit: I would think hard about the Dubi+Savard for RNH+Fayne deal. Wouldn't do the Wennberg+Savard deal though, unless a significant plus is coming back (salary reasons, as well as because Wennberg has a high ceiling and is only in his third year).
Counter proposal:
Wennberg + Savard for Draisaitl + Fayne
side note...If Savard were moved in this case, I would target a Jacob Trouba for Ryan Murray swap (with added salary - Clarkson's contract? Prout+Campbell? - to offset Trouba's contract) considering how deep the CBJ's blue line is in their system with Werenski, Carlsson, Heatherington, Nutivaara, etc. all on the left...
Saad-Dubinsky-Atkinson
Jenner-Draisaitl-Foligno
Hartnell-Gagner-Bjorkstrand
Calvert-Karlsson-Anderson
Werenski-Jones
Johnson-Trouba
Nutivaara/Goloubef-Fayne
looks good to me, especially with Dubois most likely coming up next season.
edit: I would think hard about the Dubi+Savard for RNH+Fayne deal. Wouldn't do the Wennberg+Savard deal though, unless a significant plus is coming back (salary reasons, as well as because Wennberg has a high ceiling and is only in his third year).
Counter proposal:
Wennberg + Savard for Draisaitl + Fayne
side note...If Savard were moved in this case, I would target a Jacob Trouba for Ryan Murray swap (with added salary - Clarkson's contract? Prout+Campbell? - to offset Trouba's contract) considering how deep the CBJ's blue line is in their system with Werenski, Carlsson, Heatherington, Nutivaara, etc. all on the left...
Saad-Dubinsky-Atkinson
Jenner-Draisaitl-Foligno
Hartnell-Gagner-Bjorkstrand
Calvert-Karlsson-Anderson
Werenski-Jones
Johnson-Trouba
Nutivaara/Goloubef-Fayne
looks good to me, especially with Dubois most likely coming up next season.
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Draisaitl played alongside Taylor Hall (one of the best LW's in the game) last year. This year, it's been TWO GAMES. That's not enough for him to supplant RNH, the centre who has played against top competition for us for the last 4-6 years.
Oiler fans who are souring on RNH need to calm the **** down. Once injuries hit, having a player as diverse as RNH is going to be huge.
So it's really all of last year and the start of this one that Draisaitl's been ahead. But sure, try and make it about only two games.
Nobody's soured, but people who actually pay attention to the salary cap know it's a potential problem that needs to be dealt with today. But, by all means, if your experience in NHL 17 tells you something different, go with that.
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So your solution is to trade a borderline #1C or atleast a solid #2 for...nothing? Draisaitl was ahead last year because, if you noticed, RNH was injured for the vast majority of it. And even last season, which was Draisaitl's best season, he didn't hit the point totals RNH hit previously or play the defensive game RNH played. Recency bias screws people's minds on these boards.
