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Player Discussion Ridly Greig (LW) 28th Overall
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Finally some positive news.
I would have loved to see him on the ice during that debacle yesterday.
Tank is missing him the most, he just hasn't looked the same since Greig went down.
Xspyrit
DJ Dorion
Actually, not a bad thing for Greig to not be playing in this mess and gets infected by toxic hockey. He's one of the smartest prospects we've had since Mark Stone, don't want him to be contaminated
Finally! Very excited, Greig was the cog in that line.
Joseph is fine wherever you put him, looked great with The Riddler and Tank.
I would put Greig on the fourth line. Smeljak- Greig- Crookshank would be hell of a fourth line
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Initially? Like the first 2-3 Games? or When Pinto is up and running in game shape? I think he'll need a few games.
I don't see them trying Norris on the wing early on in Pinto's return.
DrEasy
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Don't worry, someone will get injured to solve the problem. In the exceptional situation where this doesn't happen, I think Greig moves to wing.
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Xspyrit
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That's insulting to Ridly Greig. I understand people like Smejkal and Crookshank but it's not even guarantied they stick in the NHL as 4th liners. Greig is the 6th or 7th best Sens forward and impacts the game both ways like Joseph does. What a waste it would be to have him on the 4th line.
Tkachuk - Norris - Giroux
Joseph - Stutzle - Batherson
Greig - Pinto - Tarasenko
Crookshank - Chartier - Kastelic
Greig and Pinto can share center responsibilities, adds a dimension to that line, can make it even harder for the opposition. Tarasenko goes full offense while the other 2 play 2-way
Norris is a C, through and through, he isn't going to wing.
I would think Pinto goes to W initially but if he and Greig play together I could see them switching for strong side draws.
Greig deserves the role, IMO. He is quicker, a better playmaker, and I like his defensive zone reads. Pinto has the size and a better one-timer but I believe Greig is a better overall player.
That's not to diminish Pinto, I have just really liked Greig for a while.
Do you see the fourth line you propose. I prefer 4 lines that you can split the ice time
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DJ Dorion
Let's say no special teams during the game :
All first 3 lines could play 17 minutes, the 4th line would then have 9 mins.
The 3 Top-9 lines need ice-time to produce
God Says No
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No way. Pinto stays at C, he's a better C than Greig. Better defensively responsible. Greig always projected to be LW more than C.
I understand with no special teams. But I never see a game with out a penalty. Greig at 11 minutes to finish the year. Not that bad and probably injury would happen to someone
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DJ Dorion
Of course there is special teams but no way Greig is not playing in this team's Top-9, he is easily among the best 9 forwards on this team. I would much rather have him than Kubalik and even Tarasenko
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im definitely biased with this player because when he takes a stupid penalty im like atta boy Greig hurt them.
when Parker Kelly does the same thing it's annoying af.
when Parker Kelly does the same thing it's annoying af.
Completely disagree.
They may well put Pinto as C due to size but I don't see how you can possibly say Pinto is more defensively responsible.
Projections don't mean jack right now. Greig has been a more effective C than Pinto has ever been for us.
Good problem to have as we can try out both and see how it goes. Seemed to work great having multiple C’s on a line. Both have reputations as being strong defensively, so that bodes well on a third line with Joseph perhaps.
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Ridley Greig's impact on the game is such that he has to be in the top 9 and paying in the 15 minute range. It would be a waste to limit his ice time and the role he can play (and thus his contributions) by putting him lower in the lineup.
You gotta think of who he is playing with and how that is going to affect his game. Down the lineup with Crooker / Kastelic / Smejkal / Chartier severely limits the type of all around game he can play. Whereas you give him line mates like Pinto and Tarasenko and he can play to his own strengths like how we have been seeing so far.
On top of this, third line duties with those guys preps him for a potential top 6 role next year. He is a still a developing player and you need to manage that. His antics are not perfectly suited against fourth line players who might decide to actually rough him up. Better that he is getting under the skin of players higher in the opposing team's lineup.
Essentially, he is such a high impact player that he needs to be given significant opportunity to affect the game. Thats' not happening in a fourth line role with lesser linemates (thats not to dis Crookshank, I love his game).
God Says No
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The eye test and advanced metrics both show Pinto is better defensively.
Yeah, we'll see. I'm gonna bookmark this and we'll see at the end of January how it lines up.
Bookmark away, if it means that much to you.
Advanced stats mean Jack at this point, not nearly enough games to mean anything. I am comfortable seeing a different game than you.
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DJ Dorion
Hmmm I don't know about that...
2022-24 On-Ice ES Pinto vs Greig
CA/60 : 56.85 vs 57.78
SA/60 : 30.95 vs 29.02
GA/60 : 3.26 vs 2.39
xGA/60 : 2.69 vs 2.38
Greig best xGA/60 among Forwards on the team since last season. His advanced stats took a hit since coming back from injury because he was rusty at first and the team has been a discombobulated mess. He also has seen a lot of Kubalik, Crookshank and Kelly recently... not that it can help
God Says No
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Was looking at CF and FF:
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But they are close, I'll give you that. In any case, we'll see later next month how the team feels who they trust at C.
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