Salary Cap: RFA Marner - Silence until solution to the matter one way or the other

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DarkKnight

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No but he was absolutely insane not to sign 11M×7-8 when it was put in front of him, 88M US plus endorsements is Scrooge McDuck levels of money
I agree. Point was made that because Dubas was so generous then, feeling he would go higher later. I think Marner’s team has erred, his name is marketable and they’ve hurt the brand. My only thought was reality wouldn’t really hit until camp started and the pressure mounted, internally and externally.
 
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ShaneFalco

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Their tactics of.... Negotiating....? Like every other player?? It's his right, and like half the RFA class is still unsigned.

The only thing that I would agree on is what Ferris did after Matthews signed his contract, which clearly the player had nothing to do with.

Did every player have daddy to public? Threaten offersheets? Talk about being disrespcted, not enough ice time, use Dreger as a puppet etc etc
Please!
 

Walshy7

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Did every player have daddy to public? Threaten offersheets? Talk about being disrespcted, not enough ice time, use Dreger as a puppet etc etc
Please!

It’s funny the shit Michael nylander was given on these boards, a man who said nothing what so ever interms of Willy’s contract. Yet we have Paul mouthing off earlier and there is a lot less “his dad is a POS”.
 

Kelly

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Did every player have daddy to public? Threaten offersheets? Talk about being disrespcted, not enough ice time, use Dreger as a puppet etc etc
Please!
Is this something that has actually happened or is it something you've entirely made up in your head?

Toronto is a fishbowl, Dreger is an idiot -- I feel like these two things are what you have an issue with.. again nothing MM16 can control.
 
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It’s funny the **** Michael nylander was given on these boards, a man who said nothing what so ever interms of Willy’s contract. Yet we have Paul mouthing off earlier and there is a lot less “his dad is a POS”.

Yup the nicknames for Willy, the thought his dad was involved but there was nothing of substance to that whatsoever, his camp looking for market value, and saying nothing. And didn't need to try to compare himself with others on the team. Or complain about someone else's contract
 

Stamkos4life

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Nylander thread...

"You don't pay 20 goal scorers $6.96 million!!!"

Same suspects.....Marner threads.

"Dubas is an idiot for not paying a 22 goal scorer (avg) $11 million!!!"

Could you provide quotes?

90+ point player are worth 3-4 mil more then 60 point players.
 

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I agree. Point was made that because Dubas was so generous then, feeling he would go higher later. I think Marner’s team has erred, his name is marketable and they’ve hurt the brand. My only thought was reality wouldn’t really hit until camp started and the pressure mounted, internally and externally.

I could understand what they were their thinking if they thought things could play out that way but i always believed a lot of his bargaining strength was how beloved by the fan base he is

Sign something huge, go to the presser and say I could have fought for more but love being here and didn't want to risk leaving so took some off the top and become the most beloved Leaf of all time

Then watch the endorsements roll in on top of the something huge
 

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Is this something that has actually happened or is it something you've entirely made up in your head?

Toronto is a fishbowl, Dreger is an idiot -- I feel like these two things are what you have an issue with.. again nothing MM16 can control.
His dad went on a media run whining hi son wasn’t being taken serious by the team for captaincy and more.
The complaints about him taking a hometown discount started before the end of the season
 
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Is this something that has actually happened or is it something you've entirely made up in your head?

Toronto is a fishbowl, Dreger is an idiot -- I feel like these two things are what you have an issue with.. again nothing MM16 can control.

Yeah I've made it all up. Marner wears his big boy pants now and can control HIS career. Unbelievable - have you been on an island for months?
And my initial response was I can like the player but I don't have to like the way they've handled themselves. If you do, fill your boots
 

Kelly

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It’s funny the **** Michael nylander was given on these boards, a man who said nothing what so ever interms of Willy’s contract. Yet we have Paul mouthing off earlier and there is a lot less “his dad is a POS”.
A lot less?

I don't really care, but the hate and distaste that has been directed at Paul is not a lot less than what Michael received.

Have you been on ANY social media platform? Gimme a break.
 

CDN24

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Pretty silly post.
Oh I agree, it is as silly as the one I was replying to. Having Dubas offer to have Matthews drive Marner to the airport??
This team made the play0ffs by 4 points last year with Marner as their top scorer. If Marner spends the year in Switzerland (ie not traded) then leafs can kiss the playoffs goodbye. Sure they will have a bit of LTIR space they can use - what UFAs are available to sign today to make up for marner?

Its fun to suggest that Dubas tell Marner to go take a ............

But the truth is he needs Marner signed for this team to have any success and if he wants to keep his job. Marner spending the season that Dubas as finally assembled a okay d-core for in Europe would probably cost him his job.
 
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Kelly

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Yeah I've made it all up. Marner wears his big boy pants now and can control HIS career. Unbelievable - have you been on an island for months?
And my initial response was I can like the player but I don't have to like the way they've handled themselves. If you do, fill your boots
I'll admit I've enjoyed my summer and didn't waste time following this as close as most, I figured it wouldn't be done until around now anyway.

Can you provide these direct quotes from Paul?
 

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It’s funny the **** Michael nylander was given on these boards, a man who said nothing what so ever interms of Willy’s contract. Yet we have Paul mouthing off earlier and there is a lot less “his dad is a POS”.

Well he said nothing publicly. There was a lot of behinds the stuff that he at least allegedly did, and way too much smoke for there not to be at least a little bit of fire.

However I can at least respect that he did keep it private, and that he did have more of a point to go after the most money he could get than Marner did at the start of this whole debacle. Now... Well Marner's security is gone, it now looks like it is almost confirmed that he is out of the race for captaincy (even for an 'A'), and top dollar is maybe the only thing left he can really fight for.
 

ShaneFalco

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I'll admit I've enjoyed my summer and didn't waste time following this as close as most, I figured it wouldn't be done until around now anyway.

Can you provide these direct quotes from Paul?

Oh jeesus man google it for gawds sake. I show posters direct quotes and then they still talk about evidence
 

Walshy7

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A lot less?

I don't really care, but the hate and distaste that has been directed at Paul is not a lot less than what Michael received.

Have you been on ANY social media platform? Gimme a break.

I’m talking about here on Hf. It was way worse toward Michael nylander
 
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Kelly

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Yeah ye who now admits you haven't been following
Maybe do some research first before spouting off
I've been following enough to know that the distaste and hate towards Mitch was way overblown.

Still waiting on these direct quotes from Paul.

I mean I think I remember hearing him say something like a year ago, that just seemed like he was pumping his sons tires (oh the horror) but outside of that I haven't heard from him through negotiations.

So if you can provide these direct quotes that you say you have.... That'd be great.
 
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desperateblue

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I’m sorry guys but some of the thinking on these boards is why I need to take month long breaks from reading this stuff.

The Toronto maple leafs are not the raptors of the nhl
We shouldn’t have to overpay anyone by millions to get them to play here. And the coddling of stars to sign has to stop.
11 x 7 and you say no? Really
You should be taken to the psych hospital for emergency evaluation and monitoring.

When I think of all the great leafs of years passed I can’t think of a single one that would have even thought about doing this to the fans.
 
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