New York Islanders: Reverse Retro Jersey: Fisherman is back!

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I don't mind it without the teal, but without some other kind of highlight color it's gonna look pretty bland on a blue jersey, especially based on PK's mockup of it.

I'm never a fan of the wavy lines either. If it's even 50% of what I hope for I'll get one, but as it stands I'm not interested.
 

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What you're suggesting isn't really that hard actually, but it'd take a little time to get right and it's more time than I have at the moment. Maybe in two weeks when I'm free again I'll whip something up for you. :laugh:
I was just messing with you when I suggested you come up with a prototype. But if you’re willing (at your convenience)… I would certainly appreciate the efforts.

Also on an aside, I agree with your often stated design appreciation of minimal NY jersey. I know it’s an overall hot button item here. But I would have no problem with that becoming the primary jersey… with some modifications, notably to the white shoulders.

Then maintain the traditional logo on merchandise and as a permanent third jersey with only minor ongoing changes to the striping style, number or overall color shading (dark, lighter blue etc) as seen fit from year to year.

A Fisherman iteration jersey and merchandise would be rolled out every so often, but in a more limited amount and usage. Also never to fully supplant the traditional logo at any time.
 
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I was just messing with you when I suggested you come up with a prototype. But if you’re willing (at your convenience)… I would certainly appreciate the efforts.

Also on an aside, I agree with your often stated design appreciation of minimal NY jersey. I know it’s an overall hot button item here. But I would have no problem with that becoming the primary jersey… with some modifications, notably to the white shoulders.

Then maintain the traditional logo on merchandise and as a permanent third jersey with only minor ongoing changes to the striping style, number or overall color shading (dark, lighter blue etc) as seen fit from year to year.

A Fisherman iteration jersey and merchandise would be rolled out every so often, but in a more limited amount and usage. Also never to fully supplant the traditional logo at any time.
I know you were, but I'll do it if I have time. Currently out of town and then I'm going on vacation as soon as I get back after this weekend, so it'll be after that.
 

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They should take last years RR jersey. Add the fisherman with no teal to the chest and put 4 stripe patch from the early 00s back on the shoulder
I suspect that's pretty much what they're going to do. Orange trim on the numbers might be an option too.
 
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I think if you're going to bring back the fisherman jersey for a limited time to capitalize on the demand, just bring it back as it was. Teal is "retro" now, sure, that's the point.
 

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The teal makes the logo IMO, it’s pretty ugly without it
This looks pretty good.

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I think if you're going to bring back the fisherman jersey for a limited time to capitalize on the demand, just bring it back as it was. Teal is "retro" now, sure, that's the point.
There's demand for one of the most embarrassing times in this franchise's history?
 

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The White Design by Kern is my favorite (the last one).
Wavy lines are subtle and so is the teal in the Mariner.
I think this would look good with a Blue Helmet, Blue Pants (or even Orange Pants like the image of McDavid nested in this post), and White Gloves with Orange and Blue trim. Someone MOCK that up!
 
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The White Design by Kern is my favorite (the last one).
Wavy lines are subtle and so is the teal in the Mariner.
I think this would look good with a Blue Helmet, Blue Pants (or even Orange Pants like the image of McDavid nested in this post), and White Gloves with Orange and Blue trim. Someone MOCK that up!
Looks like a barber pole designed by someone trippin' acid. Woof.
 
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It can be easy for me to be critical of a logo. I have worked as a graphic designer for almost 30 years.

The original NYI logo — from a design quality point of view — kind of sucks. It's a map of Long Island, and a NY where the Y extends to be a hockey stick. The team name doesn't help create anything either. We are not connected to an animal such as Hawks, Ducks, Bears, Coyotes, Lions, etc., nor are we connected to anything menacing like a Hurricane, Avalanche or Storm. We are not something from history/military like the Admirals, Generals, Senators, etc. So creating that visual character is a challenge for a team named "The Islanders."

The Fisherman went to a place in time that I understand. Long Island at one time had a rich fishing tradition. The Baymen of Long Island were a "thing" for a very long time — but; that time ended such a long time ago, and way before the creation of the "Fisherman" logo. I would never have gone there if I were tasked with developing a logo for the NY Islanders.

Worse — it looked like it was the angry Gorton's Fisherman. Like everything else from that era, the NY Islanders were lower than a beer league organization. They epitomized unprofessional, and so too was the logo. The Uniform that went with that logo — was just as poor. The wavy lines made the uniform look like it was always in need of being adjusted, and the font was difficult and equally unprofessional.

That they are returning it as a "3rd jersey" is just an attempt to take the cash from your pocket, and place it into theres. Ugly be damned — it's as simple as that. Worse, is to drudge up memories of a terrible time for the franchise. Why?

The NYI original crest — no matter how I view it critically as a graphic designer — WORKS AS IS FOR WHAT IT IS. That crest is connected to decades of memories — and for someone like me, in his 50s — a lifetime of memories and happiness. My message to the New York Islanders — STOP F_cking with it! Leave it, and the colors alone.

My avatar here is my design for the Islanders — It is more "shoulder patch" as it would stand now then team logo. Keep in mind, I designed in many years ago, and in like 20 minutes. My goal with it was to create something that could be a symbol of "Long Island" without being a map, while tying in hockey, and the history of the team that anchored the franchise to Long Island even as new history comes each game and each season. The Montauk lighthouse is the obvious symbol, the 4 silver spokes are clear, as is the hockey element. Not going to win awards, but you can look at it and say — OK — it makes some sense. Long Island in 1995 — and today — is not looked at as a fishing community. The "Fisherman" would be more appropriate for a team from Gloucester, MA, then Long Island, NY.
 

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It can be easy for me to be critical of a logo. I have worked as a graphic designer for almost 30 years.

The original NYI logo — from a design quality point of view — kind of sucks. It's a map of Long Island, and a NY where the Y extends to be a hockey stick. The team name doesn't help create anything either. We are not connected to an animal such as Hawks, Ducks, Bears, Coyotes, Lions, etc., nor are we connected to anything menacing like a Hurricane, Avalanche or Storm. We are not something from history/military like the Admirals, Generals, Senators, etc. So creating that visual character is a challenge for a team named "The Islanders."

The Fisherman went to a place in time that I understand. Long Island at one time had a rich fishing tradition. The Baymen of Long Island were a "thing" for a very long time — but; that time ended such a long time ago, and way before the creation of the "Fisherman" logo. I would never have gone there if I were tasked with developing a logo for the NY Islanders.

Worse — it looked like it was the angry Gorton's Fisherman. Like everything else from that era, the NY Islanders were lower than a beer league organization. They epitomized unprofessional, and so too was the logo. The Uniform that went with that logo — was just as poor. The wavy lines made the uniform look like it was always in need of being adjusted, and the font was difficult and equally unprofessional.

That they are returning it as a "3rd jersey" is just an attempt to take the cash from your pocket, and place it into theres. Ugly be damned — it's as simple as that. Worse, is to drudge up memories of a terrible time for the franchise. Why?

The NYI original crest — no matter how I view it critically as a graphic designer — WORKS AS IS FOR WHAT IT IS. That crest is connected to decades of memories — and for someone like me, in his 50s — a lifetime of memories and happiness. My message to the New York Islanders — STOP F_cking with it! Leave it, and the colors alone.

My avatar here is my design for the Islanders — It is more "shoulder patch" as it would stand now then team logo. Keep in mind, I designed in many years ago, and in like 20 minutes. My goal with it was to create something that could be a symbol of "Long Island" without being a map, while tying in hockey, and the history of the team that anchored the franchise to Long Island even as new history comes each game and each season. The Montauk lighthouse is the obvious symbol, the 4 silver spokes are clear, as is the hockey element. Not going to win awards, but you can look at it and say — OK — it makes some sense. Long Island in 1995 — and today — is not looked at as a fishing community. The "Fisherman" would be more appropriate for a team from Gloucester, MA, then Long Island, NY.

It's not just the Islanders, it's mandated across the NHL. I'm pretty sure Lamoriello is opposed to third jerseys in general. The NHL just wants to make some extra cash.

That said, I don't like the recent leaked image. Not sure what the heck they're thinking with it.
 
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Didnt realize it was mandated across the NHL but why that logo, that uniform — just as you said. Damn near anything else is better than that.
 

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I don't really understand the grey skin tone

The grey skin tone? It can get pretty cold out on a fishing boat.

Looking at some of those other logos reminds me of the joke about the guys being chased by a bear and one of them stops to put on running shoes and the other guy tells him he'll never be able to outrun the bear, and the first guy says "I only need to outrun you". In other words, no matter what you think of the fisherman there must be 9 or 10 other logos worse.
 

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Didnt realize it was mandated across the NHL but why that logo, that uniform — just as you said. Damn near anything else is better than that.
Because the jerseys are reverse retros. Not really a newly created 3rd or alternate. No other team is creating a new logo for reverse retros. What other retro logo do the Islanders have?

What if they go black and white for the ol' retro brooklyn days :help:
 

doublechili

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Just as an FYI:

"And this is where Billy Joel comes in. The Long Islander in 1990 had released the song “The Downeaster ‘Alexa,’ ” which detailed the plight of a local fisherman who was struggling with a dwindling catch and tough regulations.
The team’s ownership liked the idea of incorporating the island’s seafaring heritage into the team’s identity and saw the Joel song and its video, featuring weathered boatmen, as a direction to follow.
A designer eventually created an image of an older, bearded man in a rain slicker and oilskin hat holding a hockey stick."


I would've suggested a logo depicting Vinnie from Massapequa standing next to his IROC Z.
 

PK Cronin

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Didnt realize it was mandated across the NHL but why that logo, that uniform — just as you said. Damn near anything else is better than that.

They don't have many logos to choose from, the original, the Stadium Series NY, the Brooklyn NY, or the Fisherman (and I guess the Black Death "Islanders"). The whole gimmick is that they're taking old stuff and swapping color palettes around, but the Islanders were mocked for not really doing anything fun last time around. There are only so many ways to change the original logo and jersey to be different than what we've already seen in the past.

Using the Fisherman I don't mind, the color scheme they seem to have chosen is what is boggling my mind.
 

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