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LokiDog

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Let’s put some additional perspective in here:

@SnowblindNYR I specifically remember a Mika backhander last night where he didn’t get much on it and you said something to the effect of way to fan on a wide open chance. Mika has fanned, whiffed, shanked a lot of shots. This season. Last season. In his career. More than he’s scored. And he’s also one of the most prolific goal scorers in the world in the most competitive league in the world. Because it isn’t as simple as it looks. Because as wide open as he looks, there’s a million variables outside of the ones he controls - the quality of the ice, the speed of the pass, whether the puck is flat, rolling or on edge, whether someone juuust gets a stick on his, or in the lane. And he’s one of THE best in the world. If goals were girls, he’d be Casanova. And he still misses ALL the time.

Dating is like that too. It’s not always about you. It’s not as simple as it feels like it should be. You can be open, in position, the opportunity was there, you did everything right with your windup and follow through… but it wasn’t a goal. The puck hit a rut in the ice and hopped. It was spinning awkwardly when it landed on your tape. A defender just got a millimeter of his stick in the lane and changed the direction entirely. Or a teammate’s skate was in the lane. If Mika, or Panarin as an even better example, let these current streaks where they’re just awful and not connecting on anything determine their worth and confidence they’d have too much anxiety to step on the ice by game 10 and be out of the league in a year or two. Obviously, that won’t be happening and I know, you’ll probably say something to the effect of it’s easier to remain confident when you’ve had success in the past. Sure. True. But everyone starts somewhere. Panarin was never drafted because he was a late bloomer who was too small. If he gave up at 21 where would he be? Brandon Tanev, for example, was like 5’2 and under 100lbs when he was 15. He got cut from his hockey team and gave up the sport for three years. His brother got him back on the ice when he was 18, he played some college, signed as an undrafted free agent and now he’s a fan favorite carving out a good role for himself.

I know it’s an abstract analogy, but the point - I think - is that getting down on yourself, like in hockey, will only make you worse. Gripping the stick too tight. You get demoted to the third line, then the fourth, then the press box, confidence is worse, attitude is worse, then you’re on waivers or assigned to the AHL, then you’re signing a deal in the DEL for pennies on the dollar, all because you let hitting a few posts and fanning on a few one timers get in your head. Good players will focus on the rest of their game when they’re cold. Get physical, play a 200ft game, etc. so hit the gym, read some books, find a hobby that isn’t designed for the purpose of meeting people, but just for making you happy. Work on the rest of your game and let the puck find you, so to speak.

I know it’s cheesy as f***, but it’s also true. There are genuinely thousands of people in the world where I’ve seen them and said how tf did they ever find someone and many times it’s been how tf did he land her? You’re not one of those people. Which means the odds ARE in your favor. Stop trying to force it. And honestly, getting a dog isn’t a bad idea. It will give you companionship, which is part of what you crave, teach you patience (which you could use, goalie hater) and it’s the ultimate ice breaker and attraction magnet. Take your dog to a park and you can talk to anyone. Dog does the work for you. Ask Loki.
 
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Let’s put some additional perspective in here:

@SnowblindNYR I specifically remember a Mika backhander last night where he didn’t get much on it and you said something to the effect of way to fan on a wide open chance. Mika has fanned, whiffed, shanked a lot of shots. This season. Last season. In his career. More than he’s scored. And he’s also one of the most prolific goal scorers in the world in the most competitive league in the world.

Dating is like that too. It’s not always about you. You were open, in position, the opportunity was there but it wasn’t a goal. If Mika, or Panarin as an even better example, let these current streaks where they’re just awful and not connecting on anything determine their worth and confidence they’d have too much anxiety to step on the ice by game 10 and be out of the league in a year or two. Obviously, that won’t be happening and I know, you’ll probably say something to the effect of it’s easier to remain confident when you’ve had success in the past. Sure. True. But everyone starts somewhere. Panarin was never drafted because he was a late bloomer who was too small. If he gave up at 21 where would he be? Brandon Tanev, for example, was like 5’2 and under 100lbs when he was 15. He got cut from his hockey team and gave up the sport for three years. His brother got him back on the ice when he was 18, he played some college, signed as an undrafted free agent and now he’s a fan favorite carving out a good role for himself.

I know it’s an abstract analogy, but the point - I think - is that getting down on yourself, like in hockey, will only make you worse. Gripping the stick too tight. You get demoted to the third line, then the fourth, then the press box, confidence is worse, attitude is worse, then you’re on waivers or assigned to the AHL, then you’re signing a deal in the DEL for pennies on the dollar, all because you let hitting a few posts and fanning on a few one timers get in your head. Good players will focus on the rest of their game when they’re cold. Get physical, play a 200ft game, etc. so hit the gym, read some books, find a hobby that isn’t designed for the purpose of meeting people, but just for making you happy. Work on the rest of your game and let the puck find you, so to speak.

I know it’s cheesy as f***, but it’s also true. There are genuinely thousands of people in the world where I’ve seen them and said how tf did they ever find someone and many times it’s been how tf did he land her? You’re not one of those people. Which means the odds ARE in your favor. Stop trying to force it. And honestly, getting a dog isn’t a bad idea. It will give you companionship, which is part of what you crave, teach you patience (which you could use, goalie hater) and it’s the ultimate ice breaker and attraction magnet. Take your dog to a park and you can talk to anyone. Dog does the word for you. Ask Loki.

To add to the analogy, remember to shoot for the five hole when you do get a quality scoring chance.
 

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Let’s put some additional perspective in here:

@SnowblindNYR I specifically remember a Mika backhander last night where he didn’t get much on it and you said something to the effect of way to fan on a wide open chance. Mika has fanned, whiffed, shanked a lot of shots. This season. Last season. In his career. More than he’s scored. And he’s also one of the most prolific goal scorers in the world in the most competitive league in the world.

Dating is like that too. It’s not always about you. You were open, in position, the opportunity was there but it wasn’t a goal. If Mika, or Panarin as an even better example, let these current streaks where they’re just awful and not connecting on anything determine their worth and confidence they’d have too much anxiety to step on the ice by game 10 and be out of the league in a year or two. Obviously, that won’t be happening and I know, you’ll probably say something to the effect of it’s easier to remain confident when you’ve had success in the past. Sure. True. But everyone starts somewhere. Panarin was never drafted because he was a late bloomer who was too small. If he gave up at 21 where would he be? Brandon Tanev, for example, was like 5’2 and under 100lbs when he was 15. He got cut from his hockey team and gave up the sport for three years. His brother got him back on the ice when he was 18, he played some college, signed as an undrafted free agent and now he’s a fan favorite carving out a good role for himself.

I know it’s an abstract analogy, but the point - I think - is that getting down on yourself, like in hockey, will only make you worse. Gripping the stick too tight. You get demoted to the third line, then the fourth, then the press box, confidence is worse, attitude is worse, then you’re on waivers or assigned to the AHL, then you’re signing a deal in the DEL for pennies on the dollar, all because you let hitting a few posts and fanning on a few one timers get in your head. Good players will focus on the rest of their game when they’re cold. Get physical, play a 200ft game, etc. so hit the gym, read some books, find a hobby that isn’t designed for the purpose of meeting people, but just for making you happy. Work on the rest of your game and let the puck find you, so to speak.

I know it’s cheesy as f***, but it’s also true. There are genuinely thousands of people in the world where I’ve seen them and said how tf did they ever find someone and many times it’s been how tf did he land her? You’re not one of those people. Which means the odds ARE in your favor. Stop trying to force it. And honestly, getting a dog isn’t a bad idea. It will give you companionship, which is part of what you crave, teach you patience (which you could use, goalie hater) and it’s the ultimate ice breaker and attraction magnet. Take your dog to a park and you can talk to anyone. Dog does the word for you. Ask Loki.

Thanks, this really made me feel better.
 
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Honestly, the "It'll never work out for me, it's hopeless" attitude is a self fulfilling prophecy. There are no other tips or tricks to get someone beyond that. Sometimes you need to focus on yourself first. It's not magic and everyone's future is wide open, figuring yourself out first may be the way to go.
 

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I got my photos back, I think this is my favorite so far.


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Ok so what we can confirm is @SnowblindNYR is a good looking dude.

The only minor suggestion and this is not criticism at all is to slightly bulk the upper body. Why? Chicks dig it BUT more importantly, you'll gain self-esteem and confidence.

You totally look like a kid I went to HS with who was into punk and had a lot of piercings and arm tattoos. Don't know if you'll laugh, find that comparison terrible, or be like "hey, I've heard that before!"
 

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Ok so what we can confirm is [B]@SnowblindNYR[/B] is a good looking dude.

The only minor suggestion and this is not criticism at all is to slightly bulk the upper body. Why? Chicks dig it BUT more importantly, you'll gain self-esteem and confidence.

You totally look like a kid I went to HS with who was into punk and had a lot of piercings and arm tattoos. Don't know if you'll laugh, find that comparison terrible, or be like "hey, I've heard that before!"

Thanks! I know that I can use to bulk up, the problem is two-fold. 1) I don't think my diet allows for it (I've cut out most carbs) and 2) I'm so scarred by being fat that whenever my weight goes up (and it has lately) I try as hard as hell to bring it down. I have no idea if it's muscle or fat. That second thing is major even though it sounds silly.
 

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@SnowblindNYR to add one more thing, we could honestly give you all the advice in the world and I’m sure we’re all happy to BUT it will ultimately be a thing that you’ll have to address on your own.

You won’t start seeing results until you go in and change your mindset from relationship or bust to let me go out and just have a good time.

Yup. I had a lot of crap happen the last eight weeks between that trip I mentioned, management changes at work, getting sick, etc.

What am I doing this weekend? Called up a friend in Seattle and said "hey, I'm coming to see hockey and touristy stuff. You down?" And away I go.

Maybe I'll meet someone at a bar or coffee shop, but as @New York RKY said, I'm going out to have a good time.

The dating app stuff is a complimentary piece. I'll get back to it end of year/beginning of next year once I'm ready and I can ramp up my workouts (I'll be cleared in the near future for hard cardio and bench pressing about ten weeks after testing positive for covid).
 

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As far as the comparison, I've never gotten that before but I feel like if I did that I'd find myself a goth girl, haha. I bet goth girls are easier to impress than non-goth girls.
 

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Thanks! I know that I can use to bulk up, the problem is two-fold. 1) I don't think my diet allows for it (I've cut out most carbs) and 2) I'm so scarred by being fat that whenever my weight goes up (and it has lately) I try as hard as hell to bring it down. I have no idea if it's muscle or fat. That second thing is major even though it sounds silly.

If you work out consistently and don't worry about the scale/keep the carbs down up the protein and resistance training, you'll get slim over time.

I can attest to this, and I'm the king of Friday Night hard runs (6-8 miles) and then go pig out at Burger King two hours later for a cheat meal.
 

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If you work out consistently and don't worry about the scale/keep the carbs down up the protein and resistance training, you'll get slim over time.

I can attest to this, and I'm the king of Friday Night hard runs (6-8 miles) and then go pig out at Burger King two hours later for a cheat meal.

I actually lift every day or almost every day. Probably not ideal form, but I do 3 sets of curls (15 reps) 25 LBs and 2 sets or arm raises (7 reps) same weight. Maybe my form isn't good, and it probably isn't but I don't never work out. And I do have more muscle than I used to before I started working out. But at this point I think it's more about health than bulk.
 
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I actually lift every day or almost every day. Probably not ideal form, but I do 3 sets of curls (15 reps) 25 LBs and 2 sets or arm raises (7 reps) same weight. Maybe my form isn't good, and it probably isn't but I don't never work out. And I do have more muscle than I used to before I started working out. But at this point I think it's more about health than bulk.

I went a little bonkers before I visited that friend in the summer (about 50% trying to impress her and 50% just to push it because during lockdown until this June all I did was cardio and light dumbbells). The way I gained upper body was a combo of bench pressing, deadlifts/squats/kettelbell with very light weights at first, and then on machines increasing by 5lbs every two to three weeks. It got me very lean and added some definition to my arms/shoulders.
 
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BTW, @Roo Returns , not sure how much of it was just something "you say" and how much of it was truth, but I do appreciate the looks compliment. When I put my photos to get rated on photofeeler, I'd get 3-4/10. And I rarely have anyone swipe right. I always wonder if it's how I look or if my photos are shit. Well at least I got a pro photographer now.
 

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BTW, @Roo Returns , not sure how much of it was just something "you say" and how much of it was truth, but I do appreciate the looks compliment. When I put my photos to get rated on photofeeler, I'd get 3-4/10. And I rarely have anyone swipe right. I always wonder if it's how I look or if my photos are shit. Well at least I got a pro photographer now.

Naw it's me trying to be truthful and positive. You have a full head of hair and aren't obese. You're not George Costnza or Drew Carey.

I know a lot of guys who "get da girls" and let themselves go whether trying to hold onto receding hair instead of shaving their head, or they have the classic suburban "polo shirt and big gut" because they quit working out once they got a lady.
 

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Naw it's me trying to be truthful and positive. You have a full head of hair and aren't obese. You're not George Costnza or Drew Carey.

I know a lot of guys who "get da girls" and let themselves go whether trying to hold onto receding hair instead of shaving their head, or they have the classic suburban "polo shirt and big gut" because they quit working out once they got a lady.

Well this is what I used to look like:

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So good thing I'm not obese, haha.
 
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Well this is what I used to look like:

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So good thing I'm not obese, haha.

You’ve come a long way and done a great job and you’re looking much better. You aren’t an unattractive guy, though you are a skinny little dude now. If I were you I’d focus on bulking up rather than getting a girl. I say that because you’ve had such an incredible transformation already, but it’s only half done. You went from overweight and probably self conscious about it and unconfident to slim and healthy, but you haven’t had the full pendulum swing from self conscious to assertive and confident. Adding some bulk will 100% do that. It will also give you something to FOCUS on while you put women on the back burner for a while, and doing so may even potentially help you out. If you want lifting or fitness advice, I’m happy to help. I don’t mean to toot my own horn, but it really is an area of expertise. But if I were you I’d invest in a trainer or a well written plan and solid nutrition/supplements (all of which I can help with) and focus on adding mass. Do that for 6 months and you will be a different person. Your confidence, comfort in your own skin and appearance will all be transformed and hitting the dating scene again will be a very different prospect.
 
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You’ve come a long way and done a great job and you’re looking much better. You aren’t an unattractive guy, though you are a skinny little dude now. If I were you I’d focus on bulking up rather than getting a girl. I say that because you’ve had such an incredible transformation already, but it’s only half done. You went from overweight and probably self conscious about it and unconfident to slim and healthy, but you haven’t had the full pendulum swing from self conscious to assertive and confident. Adding some bulk will 100% do that. It will also give you something to FOCUS on while you put women on the back burner for a while, and doing so may even potentially help you out. If you want lifting or fitness advice, I’m happy to help. I don’t mean to toot my own horn, but it really is an area of expertise. But if I were you I’d invest in a trainer or a well written plan and solid nutrition/supplements (all of which I can help with) and focus on adding mass. Do that for 6 months and you will be a different person. Your confidence, comfort in your own skin and appearance will all be transformed and hitting the dating scene again will be a very different prospect.

I honestly don't think I can do it. I had a trainer for a long time, he's actually a good friend of mine. But working out with him never worked. I don't think I have the discipline for it. Forget about the freaking out about weight stuff, maybe that's stupid. But I legit don't think I can do the workouts necessary to build legit muscles. As far as the pendulum swing, I'm not assertive and confident BUT 1) I'm much more than I used to. 2) I'm not there yet because I have chronic self confidence issues that I don't know if it'll be resolved by body transformation or anything really. That's more of a psychological problem.
 
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It isn’t just about gaining confidence because you have added muscle of transformed your body. It isn’t so brutishly simple as that. It’s about dedicating yourself to a goal, for yourself and achieving it. It’s about a journey of growth - literal muscle growth, and metaphorical. It’s also about pushing yourself. If you want to really bulk up, staying in your comfort zone with weights your comfortable with won’t do it. You’ll have to push to get stronger, to lift more. So it’s about learning to be tired and to keep pushing. To have your muscles burn and ache and keep going. It’s physical perseverance. It will also increase mental strength. You say you don’t have the focus or discipline and right now you may not. But wouldn’t you like to? Who says you can’t? Who says you have to be what you are and that’s it? Just like a muscle, you’ll develop your level of discipline and dedication as you go. It’s about the to sticking with it.

You’ll add weight to the bar every month. You’ll have to try some different exercises, meaning learning new things. You’ll also push yourself mentally. You’ll gain more discipline if you push yourself to do so. Don’t quit just because it isn’t easy or immediately rewarding. Don’t give yourself the excuse of “I don’t have the discipline”. You do! If you didn’t you wouldn’t have been able to drop so much weight in the first place. Just take it slow. You can do it on your own. You don’t need to work out with anyone. You just need to do a bit more than normal each time. A bit more. A bit more. Keep pushing. Expand your routine. Add another set. Add another full exercise. Add some weight. Add another exercise. Just keep pushing. And it shouldn’t just be an hour in the gym either. Follow some lifting pages/channels. Watch some YouTube videos: “10 exercises for bigger shoulders” “how to build killer lats” whatever. Make it as much research and refining your process and getting better and better at the process as it is about actually working out. Become a subject matter expert. To an extent. I’m not saying become Mr. Olympia. But don’t just lift enough to be a little toned and lean. Lift enough that you’d feel comfortable to train someone newer than you.

@SnowblindNYR
 
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It isn’t just about gaining confidence because you have added muscle of transformed your body. It isn’t so brutishly simple as that. It’s about dedicating yourself to a goal, for yourself and achieving it. It’s about a journey of growth - literal muscle growth, and metaphorical. It’s also about pushing yourself. If you want to really bulk up, staying in your comfort zone with weights your comfortable with won’t do it. You’ll have to push to get stronger, to lift more. So it’s about learning to be tired and to keep pushing. To have your muscles burn and ache and keep going. It’s physical perseverance. It will also increase mental strength. You say you don’t have the focus or discipline and right now you may not. But wouldn’t you like to? Who says you can’t? Who says you have to be what you are and that’s it? Just like a muscle, you’ll develop your level of discipline and dedication as you go. It’s about the to sticking with it.

You’ll add weight to the bar every month. You’ll have to try some different exercises, meaning learning new things. You’ll also push yourself mentally. You’ll gain more discipline if you push yourself to do so. Don’t quit just because it isn’t easy or immediately rewarding. Don’t give yourself the excuse of “I don’t have the discipline”. You do! If you didn’t you wouldn’t have been able to drop so much weight in the first place. Just take it slow. You can do it on your own. You don’t need to work out with anyone. You just need to do a bit more than normal each time. A bit more. A bit more. Keep pushing. Expand your routine. Add another set. Add another full exercise. Add some weight. Add another exercise. Just keep pushing. And it shouldn’t just be an hour in the gym either. Follow some lifting pages/channels. Watch some YouTube videos: “10 exercises for bigger shoulders” “how to build killer lats” whatever. Make it as much research and refining your process and getting better and better at the process as it is about actually working out. Become a subject matter expert. To an extent. I’m not saying become Mr. Olympia. But don’t just lift enough to be a little toned and lean. Lift enough that you’d feel comfortable to train someone newer than you.

@SnowblindNYR

So, you're half right here. I used to go to the gym because I thought it would be the easy way of losing weight and I didn't think I could change my diet. And then I did. But it was like a switch flipped in my head. The first week was tough but I kind of just got used to it. But refraining from doing something I want to do is easier than doing something I don't want to do if that makes sense.
 

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So, you're half right here. I used to go to the gym because I thought it would be the easy way of losing weight and I didn't think I could change my diet. And then I did. But it was like a switch flipped in my head. The first week was tough but I kind of just got used to it. But refraining from doing something I want to do is easier than doing something I don't want to do if that makes sense.

That’s still not an excuse not to do it.

Now obviously you don’t HAVE to do it. But the benefits and the ways in which those benefits perfectly align with certain things that ail you and that you would like to improve make it, very seriously, possibly the best investment you could make. Trust me, when I take even a few weeks off or fall out of a rhythm, I don’t want to go to the gym and lift, and it’s hard to make myself. But when I am in a rhythm it’s much easier. And I still don’t always want to do, I just feel better and accomplished when I do.
 

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That’s still not an excuse not to do it.

Now obviously you don’t HAVE to do it. But the benefits and the ways in which those benefits perfectly align with certain things that ail you and that you would like to improve make it, very seriously, possibly the best investment you could make. Trust me, when I take even a few weeks off or fall out of a rhythm, I don’t want to go to the gym and lift, and it’s hard to make myself. But when I am in a rhythm it’s much easier. And I still don’t always want to do, I just feel better and accomplished when I do.

I think rhythm is kind of where I am with the diet which is now a lifestyle. I'm on autopilot. I just don't think working out I can ever get anywhere close to that.
 

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