Red Wings quietly have the deepest defensive group in the league

[Coach Reggie Dunlop]

As a wings fan I’ll say the teams defense is solid right now. Not amazing but not bad either, should be good. Deepest in the league is an absolute stretch, but I do think they are underrated. If we got rid of chiarot we might actually be able to make something happen, but as of right now idk what OP is smoking

 

[WarriorofTime]

Surprised the mods haven’t closed when this is a satire post

 

[raymond23]

????

 

[Hockeyholic]

I've never understood why penalty minutes are brought up as a positive for performances/HHOF debates. Penalty minutes means you are giving the opposition scoring opportunities. It also takes away chances for your team.

Larry Murphy likely makes the HHOF even if he isn't traded to Detroit. He was also a much better Leaf than Holl. Not sure how these two players are even comparable.

 

[Foppa2118]

Joe Sakic reading this:

 

[12ozPapa]

This made my brain hurt

 

[cg98]

You’re more than likely going to be in for a very rude awakening come October and further on lol

 

[Panthers Propaganda]

I mean, we have all seen Carolina's D right?

 

[Burke's Evil Spirit]

Not to mention Seider having a down year last season due to Chiarot reasons. He's easily good for 50 points from the blueline.

Then you have another potential 20 points and 50+ PIM from Chiarot,

I cannot believe these two sentences were written back-to-back

 

[commie]

How well did Vancouver quietly do last year? lol

 

[Voight]

I can't really find any other team aside from Vegas and Boston that has a more well rounded, balanced and potential threat line up than the Wings.

Gostisbehere, Petry, Määttä, that's 90-100 points alone from #4-6 guys. I don't think there's any team with that kind of scoring punch from depth d-men. Not to mention Seider having a down year last season due to Chiarot reasons. He's easily good for 50 points from the blueline.

Then you have another potential 20 points and 50+ PIM from Chiarot, and Walman who could definitely build on last season potting perhaps another 30pts along with great analytics. That's not even mentioning Holl who could be another Larry Murphy type player who thrives when going from Toronto to Detroit. Even Edvinsson could be good for 20-30 points including 5-10 goals.

Husso is a top 5 goaltender in the division, and there's Larkin and Copp (albeit overpaid) are 2 elite two-way forwards who make their wingers much better than they are (Perron, Fabbri, Raymond and Debrincat).

With the amount of team defense this team has with the additions of Compher, Kostin and Fischer, having a bit weaker scoring forwards is manageable. Wings were good at limiting high-danger chances last season even with atrocious depth, in large part thanks to Lalonde and his brains. Special teams was an issue but that should be improved.

I just can't really think of a more well balanced group, especially the defensive group, with an average age of 29 years old.

Worth mentioning that Murphy had long established himself as one of the leagues better defensemen years before he played for Toronto.

Thats certainly not the case with Holl.

 

[Three On Zero]

I can't really find any other team aside from Vegas and Boston that has a more well rounded, balanced and potential threat line up than the Wings.

Gostisbehere, Petry, Määttä, that's 90-100 points alone from #4-6 guys. I don't think there's any team with that kind of scoring punch from depth d-men. Not to mention Seider having a down year last season due to Chiarot reasons. He's easily good for 50 points from the blueline.

Then you have another potential 20 points and 50+ PIM from Chiarot, and Walman who could definitely build on last season potting perhaps another 30pts along with great analytics. That's not even mentioning Holl who could be another Larry Murphy type player who thrives when going from Toronto to Detroit. Even Edvinsson could be good for 20-30 points including 5-10 goals.

Husso is a top 5 goaltender in the division, and there's Larkin and Copp (albeit overpaid) are 2 elite two-way forwards who make their wingers much better than they are (Perron, Fabbri, Raymond and Debrincat).

With the amount of team defense this team has with the additions of Compher, Kostin and Fischer, having a bit weaker scoring forwards is manageable. Wings were good at limiting high-danger chances last season even with atrocious depth, in large part thanks to Lalonde and his brains. Special teams was an issue but that should be improved.

I just can't really think of a more well balanced group, especially the defensive group, with an average age of 29 years old.

This kind of statement worked so well for Canuck fans last year.......

 

[nucksflailtogether]

Imagine if one team could have Canucks offense and Wings defence, they would be unstoppable.

I think this must be a joke thread tbh, a parody of last summer's abomination about how sick the canucks are.

 

[The Nuge]

Deep doesn’t really matter with how mediocre the players are. After Seider, their next best dman is like a #4.

 

[Three On Zero]

Surprised the mods haven’t closed when this is a satire post

I think they like leaving these kind of threads open for a bit, just until they start heading too far south.

 

[SensontheRush]

Blegh.

You cram a bunch of players who were getting optimal usage onto the same team, and now they start competing with eachother for icetime. It's the opposite of the VGK and SEA strategy.

 

[Pavels Dog]

Canucks quietly have the deepest forward group in the league

I can’t really find any other team aside from St Louis and Colorado that has a more well rounded, balanced and potential threat line up than the Canucks. Miller, Pettersson, Horvat, that’s 90-100 goals alone down the middle. I don’t think there’s any team with that type of scoring punch down...

forums.hfboards.com

This was my satirical thread from a year ago. The OP just copy pasted and switched the names Lol.

And yes it was me who started the whole quietly deepest team thing Lol. Last summer, I was making a whole bunch of troll threads which got me suspended a couple of times. I never thought this thread would blow up the way it did.

What was absolutely hilarious was that some of my fellow Canucks fans were defending my post. Not once did I even ATTEMPT to defend that thread

I am very proud of that thread. My mission was completed.

You make some really good points there - no surprise I accidentally made some similar arguments. Great minds think alike!

 

[Seiza]

I thought Detroit had a very nice prospect pool on D? So I really don't understand why they acquired all these (IMO) highly overrated d-men instead of giving one or two of Edvinsson, McIsaac, Johansson or Wallinder a shot.

 

[mattihp]

Does Määttä even have any offensive ability left? I thought his hands had turned to stone?

 

[Voodoo Child]

Hoping on Justin Holl…

Hope he doesn’t throw a pass right onto the stick of a guy like Matthews, Kaprizov or Gaudreau in the final minutes of a tie game - or hope he actually plays his man in the corners.


Look up his Tampa numbers - they’re borderline historically bad. He’s gonna cost you guys 3-4 points alone this season.

 

[Pavels Dog]

Hope he doesn’t throw a pass right onto the stick of a guy like Matthews, Kaprizov or Gaudreau in the final minutes of a tie game

Well, at least not before the Wings trade for any of them

 

[norrisnick]

Does Määttä even have any offensive ability left? I thought his hands had turned to stone?

Had pneumonia not derailed his season, he was on pace to set career highs.

 

[TruePowerSlave]

Best team in the league, you haters just don't understand hockey

 

[General Fanager]

Is the OP being serious or sarcastic?

 

[PullHard]

Brutal thread and I'm a red wings fan