Proposal: Red Wings offer-sheets Pettersson for 13 million

[Throw More Waffles]

The better play is tell Vancouver we want to trade for him...if they won't then sign him to a 10.27 x 3 OS...that is just under the 4 1sts threshold. Vancouver would hate it as after that deal is up EP can just sign his QO and enter UFA right after.

You say that Vancouver would hate that offersheet. And you're right. Why? Because it's a bad contract before we even consider the 2 first round picks. So if this is a horrible contract for Vancouver, wouldn't it also be a horrible contract for Detroit? Wouldn't they also not like that EP can "just sign his QO and enter UFA right after"?

This is where everyone gets lost in the discussion. If the offersheet contract is so bad that it will "screw over the team who owns the rfa", then it will also screw over the team that gave the offersheet if it's not matched. AS WELL AS the first round picks.

Your offersheet makes sense from the angle of "screw over Vancouver". But it doesn't make sense in the slightest from Detroits perspective.

 

[La Cosa Nostra]

You say that Vancouver would hate that offersheet. And you're right. Why? Because it's a bad contract before we even consider the 2 first round picks. So if this is a horrible contract for Vancouver, wouldn't it also be a horrible contract for Detroit? Wouldn't they also not like that EP can "just sign his QO and enter UFA right after"?

This is where everyone gets lost in the discussion. If the offersheet contract is so bad that it will "screw over the team who owns the rfa", then it will also screw over the team that gave the offersheet if it's not matched. AS WELL AS the first round picks.

Your offersheet makes sense from the angle of "screw over Vancouver". But it doesn't make sense in the slightest from Detroits perspective.

How is 10.27 x 3 worse then 13 million for 1 year? Which then makes his QO 13+ and he can just continually sign QOs until UFA. Getting teams not to match is near impossible. 10.27 for EP is bad? In what world? Especially when Kotkaniemi got 6.1

 

[Throw More Waffles]

How is 10.27 x 3 worse then 13 million for 1 year? Which then makes his QO 13+ and he can just continually sign QOs until UFA. Getting teams not to match is near impossible. 10.27 for EP is bad? In what world? Especially when Kotkaniemi got 6.1

I'm saying both offer sheets are bad.

If the contract they offer isn't "bad", then it will simply be matched. If it is "bad", then Detroit is stuck with a horrible contract and the loss of 2 first overall picks.

Makes no sense from Detroits perspective.

 

[TGWL]

It's not one year. Red Wings have RFA rights for 4 years at least.

RFA rights mean nothing if you can't get it done. You're offering 4 1st for 1 year and hoping for the best.

 

[McShogun99]

Rebuilding teams should never give an offer sheet that involves 1st round picks. The team is still growing and needs more then Petersen to become a playoff team.

 

[Debrincat93]

this is about as bad as it gets.
no thanks

i wonder if the OP even took much of the entirety of the situation into account when debating this idea.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Because Detroit isn't a worse team than Buffalo or Arizona even without Pettersson so it's very unlikely they would finish bottom three if they add him. The division is totally irrelevant to where they will finish in the league standings (which is all that matters for draft position) since we're moving back to a normal schedule where teams don't play all their games in division. Once you get outside the top 2 or 3 picks first rounders simply aren't that valuable relative to a proven #1 center like Pettersson.

So you named 2 teams worse than them and somehow that adds up to 3 teams finishing below them? Even with EP Detroit is still a bottom 5 team in the league

 

[Lil Sebastian Cossa]

It's not one year. Red Wings have RFA rights for 4 years at least.

With the "right" to pay him 13M or more on his qualifying offer every single year.

 

[coolboarder]

Rebuilding teams should never give an offer sheet that involves 1st round picks. The team is still growing and needs more then Petersen to become a playoff team.

Not just 4 successful picks, you need to pick the right list of prospect to choose from. Chances of hitting homerun on 4 drafts pick from first round is very low, even hitting a draft pick home run on consecutive years is also low, let alone hitting a home-run pick during these 4 years ever. A generational talent comes once every 10-20 years. First overall pick is not always a hit. What it is guaranteed from premium price is you know what you are getting exactly. 4 first round picks are unknown future and lottery by itself. You still have 2nd round pick and there is plenty of great prospect to choose from that are stars. Why fret losing 4 unknown picks for one known superstar RFA and you only lose 3 picks in exchange of one player. 1 first round pick in exchange for one top-tier talented player is a trade-off and you lose only 3 extra prospects. Think about it. Offer sheet helps you right away if there is a right type of player.

 

[EpiK Sandwich]

Please no... from a Wings fan.

 

[Pip]

You won’t sign him for any less than the 13 million going forward - so why one year?

 

[Lil Sebastian Cossa]

Elias Pettersson is a hell of a player. But frankly, he's not worth detonating a bomb in our rebuild plan good nor is he worth more on an annual basis than Connor McDavid. If we were dead set on him, like you'd have to be to consider this deal... we should have just gone ham to move up to 5 in 2017.

 

[Cup or Bust]

If Yzerman wants to give up 4 first round picks and add 13 million to his payroll he would likely improve his team more by trading those picks in deals for multiple players.

 

[HockeyVirus]

Pettersson got very overrated.

 

[Bounces R Way]

One of the worst ideas I've ever seen. How to set a franchise back a decade.

 

[Coachcorner]

If Yzerman wants to give up 4 first round picks and add 13 million to his payroll he would likely improve his team more by trading those picks in deals for multiple players.

Yes he would. Petterson will not play for any other nhl team than the canucks during these next 3-4 years. That's a bank sire, like you already knew.

Petterson is aaight, talented, the shot, the eye, skating is cool etc. He is not a leader, horvat and miller are. The canucks don't even need more leaders now that they got miller and horvat. They is the realest thugs ever. But petterson definitely has the game. He is soft though and injury prone. Will get injured in the future also. Bank on that too. A sucka team ain't signing him if he costs over 10.5 million. Never. But a fine team like the canucks might get him for like... 8.8-9.95 milj. Thats a lot of money too. Take the money and play on the casino and see some women dance. For life sire.

 

[BobClarkesfrontteeth]

Not a damm chance with Tampa, Florida, Boston, Toronto, Montreal in division

Montreal is almost in the not a damn chance category too So I would put Detroit in the category of needing 3 team planes to fall from the sky to have a chance and Ottawa might be better than them so you might need to make it 4 planes.

 

[dj Mahoney]

No point in rushing Yzermans rebuild only 5 more years of finishing at the bottom. Then watchout.

 

[njdevils1982]

Yes he would. Petterson will not play for any other nhl team than the canucks during these next 3-4 years. That's a bank sire, like you already knew.

Petterson is aaight, talented, the shot, the eye, skating is cool etc. He is not a leader, horvat and miller are. The canucks don't even need more leaders now that they got miller and horvat. They is the realest thugs ever. But petterson definitely has the game. He is soft though and injury prone. Will get injured in the future also. Bank on that too. A sucka team ain't signing him if he costs over 10.5 million. Never. But a fine team like the canucks might get him for like... 8.8-9.95 milj. Thats a lot of money too. Take the money and play on the casino and see some women dance. For life sire.

sure thing homie…..gotta keep it realz like fo'sure

 

[Paddys Pub]

That would be great for Van.
4 high lottery picks to add to what would be their own high lottery picks.

 

[innitfam]

Because they shouldn’t be doing it at all.

Obviously. But if they were, why would they sign 13M

 

[MBH]

What the f***.
Lose 4 firsts.
Then have to sign him to what kind of deal next year???

If Detroit really wanted Pettersson, why not just offer him 7x11 or something?

 

[deckercky]

Detroit would be better to trade 4 1sts for Eichel (he would likely cost less than this). This thread is silly.

 

[Oddbob]

Terrible idea. Too much and too good of picks.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

They won't be in the Bottom10 when adding Pettersson and Seider. Mostly are pushing for the playoffs.

I dont see how either player really helps Detroit in the Atlantic
alot of teams fighting for those Wild Cards. does Pettersson and Seider really help that much?
Seider hasn't even had a game in the NHL yet.
So more like does Pettersson make them that much better?
even with Pettersson I put them behind Montreal and Ottawa
likely better than Buffalo