RD Simon Edvinsson - Grand Rapids Griffins., AHL (2021, 6th, DET)

[Pavels Dog]

Edvinsson is far more raw and unpolished. He is very lanky, and while an excellent skater, he is still a tad like bambi out there. He has a top-end processor but his play tends to be very high-risk at times, mainly due to his skills being able to get him out of trouble. Much of his offense is generated by playing this cowboy style. This is something he will need to reign in at the AHL / NHL level. I totally feel he will do that, and he'll either end up "Robin" to Seider's "Batman" or he'll anchor the 2nd pair and could be among the best 2nd pairing D in the league during his prime.

When I watch him closely, I see a taller, more dynamic looking Travis Sanheim at the NHL level, which is a good thing. But if we are expecting a Hedman clone, we are setting ourselves up for disappointment.

Just my 2 cents.

I think your scouting report is fairly accurate, but you seem to be underselling him a bit all the same. He's raw and unpolished.. and still played 20 minutes a game vs. men as an 18 year old.
The natural talent he has is scary. If he wasn't raw and unpolished he would have been #1OA. How much he manages the refine his talents and how long it takes are the questions.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

A name I havent seen in this thread, and I see some similarities : K'andre miller

That’s not a bad comparison, but Edvinsson probably has more offensive touch and is a little taller. Miller’s been doing very well this season. Being compared to him is not a slight towards Edvinsson.

 

[ZDH]

 

[Coach Reggie Dunlop]

That’s not a bad comparison, but Edvinsson probably has more offensive touch and is a little taller. Miller’s been doing very well this season. Being compared to him is not a slight towards Edvinsson.

Lol at this point in both of their development periods edvinsson is a lot better than Miller was. Anything can happen and he might not ever be better than Miller, but as of now it’s kind of a slight against edvinsson the prospect.

 

[molotce]

That’s not a bad comparison, but Edvinsson probably has more offensive touch and is a little taller. Miller’s been doing very well this season. Being compared to him is not a slight towards Edvinsson.

Of course it's not a perfect reflection but I've catched almost all of miller's games and they both got that reach, height and skating combo. I just love watching them skating it out of their zone. For the offense I dont know but they both are guys that can make plays if they want to because of their raw abilities. It's about finding what you can/cannot do. I think Miller's got more to give offensively if he wants to, he can create space for himself and has a great shot. We'll see, but I know you watched him too, his defensive game is developping into something great and I envision edvinsson's development going in the same direction.

 

[molotce]

Lol at this point in both of their development periods edvinsson is a lot better than Miller was. Anything can happen and he might not ever be better than Miller, but as of now it’s kind of a slight against edvinsson the prospect.

I don't think it is at all, Miller is not done progressing, but his level of play right now in the NHL is already of a very good second pair D. Progression is not linear.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

I don't think it is at all, Miller is not done progressing, but his level of play right now in the NHL is already of a very good second pair D. Progression is not linear.

Miller and Broberg are more comparable. Edvinsson and K'Andre Miller are nothing alike other than being tall left defense.

Edvinsson will rag the puck through all three zones and stickhandle through 3 or 4 defenders before making a play. Miller when I've seen him is much more straight line, skate it north fast and shoot hard. Miller's shot is also superior to Edvinsson.

 

[bsu]

I don't think Miller and Edvinsson are similar.

 

[NickH8]

 

[cjeagle]

He said in an interview he gave today that he grew another centimeter since his last measurement so he is now 1.99 m tall or over 6'6" now nearly 2 inches higher then when he was first drafted and weighs 210 lbs.



The Redwings defenceman are going to be tough on opposing forwards to physically dominate in the future with their height and heft with Seider being over 6'4", William Wallinder also at 6'4" with both Seider and Edvinsson known for their physical play in addition to their all around game.

Aside from his height, Edvinsson is also an excellent skater and stickhandler.

It would be interesting to see who among Power, Edvinsson, Hughes and Clarke ends up being the best defenceman prospect from last year's draft.

 

[bsu]

He said in an interview he gave today that he grew another centimeter since his last measurement so he is now 1.99 m tall or over 6'6" now nearly 2 inches higher then when he was first drafted.



The Redwings defenceman are going to be tough on opposing forwards to physically dominate in the future with their height and heft with Seider being over 6'4", William Wallinder also at 6'4" with both Seider and Edvinsson known for their physical play in addition to their all around game.

Aside from his height, Edvinsson is also an excellent skater and stickhandler.

It would be interesting to see who among defencemen Power, Edvinsson, Hughes and Clarke ends up being the best prospect from last year's draft.

In the order listed... with Clarke a bigger gap away simply because of skating IMO.

 

[cjeagle]

In the order listed... with Clarke a bigger gap away simply because of skating IMO.

I hope Edvinsson has the same or close to the same impact that Seider had on the Redwings this past year, a potential Calder Trophy candidate.

Seider is certainly looking forward to seeing him and the other prospects next season.

“I’ve never had a chance of meeting Simon, so I’m really looking forward to that,” Seider said. “I think everyone is looking forward to all of the (new) guys (arriving). Our future is so bright. I think the fans are as excited as I am to see all the guys.

“Hopefully I can even help them a little bit to adjust to North American ice, or just the North American lifestyle a little bit. I’m pumped to see whoever’s coming over.”

Yzerman also has high expectations for Edvinsson.

I think he’s in consideration for it, yes,” Yzerman said of the possibility of Edvinsson making the club out of training camp. “He had a very good year.

“Frolunda, we’ve had several players go through there. They’re a very good team, very good organization. He played very well for them this year. He’s big. I say big, he’s strong. He can skate really well.

“He does have a chance, yeah. I want to say a real good chance to play in the NHL next year. It’s a bit of an educated guess based on okay, this is what Moritz Seider did in the Swedish League last year. Kind of compare him to that. Can he have a similar impact? He’s a different player than Moritz, really. Both very good, young prospects but there’s a little bit of a difference in the two of them and we’ll see how he does.

“I’m optimistic and we’ll see.”

 

[haulinbass]

I hope Edvinsson has the same or close to the same impact that Seider had on the Redwings this past year, a potential Calder Trophy candidate.

Seider is certainly looking forward to seeing him and the other prospects next season.

“I’ve never had a chance of meeting Simon, so I’m really looking forward to that,” Seider said. “I think everyone is looking forward to all of the (new) guys (arriving). Our future is so bright. I think the fans are as excited as I am to see all the guys.

“Hopefully I can even help them a little bit to adjust to North American ice, or just the North American lifestyle a little bit. I’m pumped to see whoever’s coming over.”

Yzerman also has high expectations for Edvinsson.

I think he’s in consideration for it, yes,” Yzerman said of the possibility of Edvinsson making the club out of training camp. “He had a very good year.

“Frolunda, we’ve had several players go through there. They’re a very good team, very good organization. He played very well for them this year. He’s big. I say big, he’s strong. He can skate really well.

“He does have a chance, yeah. I want to say a real good chance to play in the NHL next year. It’s a bit of an educated guess based on okay, this is what Moritz Seider did in the Swedish League last year. Kind of compare him to that. Can he have a similar impact? He’s a different player than Moritz, really. Both very good, young prospects but there’s a little bit of a difference in the two of them and we’ll see how he does.

“I’m optimistic and we’ll see.”

When did he say this stuff? Yesterday Yzerman said that people have to remember Seider had an additional year before he joined Red Wings ( +1 SHL +2 In GR). I felt as if he was preparing us for the likelyness he plays in GR. Obviously he is well aware all of us funs have high hopes and dreams he starts in NHL this year.

It's just so hard to say until we atleast see him in preseason.

 

[newfy]

He said in an interview he gave today that he grew another centimeter since his last measurement so he is now 1.99 m tall or over 6'6" now nearly 2 inches higher then when he was first drafted and weighs 210 lbs.

Its absolutely freakish how well he moves and handles the puck at that size. One of the biggest unicorn prospects as far as size/skill go

I hope Edvinsson has the same or close to the same impact that Seider had on the Redwings this past year, a potential Calder Trophy candidate.

Not a fair expectation to have on Edvinsson, Seider just had one of the best rookie seasons for a dman in a long time and was a year older. Honestly, if the wings get Edvinsson to play in his prime as good as rookie Seider they should be really happy

 

[cjeagle]

When did he say this stuff? Yesterday Yzerman said that people have to remember Seider had an additional year before he joined Red Wings ( +1 SHL +2 In GR). I felt as if he was preparing us for the likelyness he plays in GR. Obviously he is well aware all of us funs have high hopes and dreams he starts in NHL this year.

It's just so hard to say until we atleast see him in preseason.

Yzerman made those comments a few weeks ago before all the free agent additions but he also said recently that he will let Edvinsson's performance in training camp decide on whether he stays with the Redwings or not.

Edvinsson’s Goal: Emulate Seider, Raymond and Make Red Wings Roster

Simon Edvinsson's objective is to make the Detroit Red Wings roster out of training camp this fall

detroithockeynow.com

“If (Edvinsson is) ready to play and play a regular role that would be great for us,” Yzerman said. “We’ll just kind of let the whole thing play itself out, but the World Juniors will be a great stepping stone coming into training camp to try to make an impression and earn a spot on the team”

 

[cjeagle]

Its absolutely freakish how well he moves and handles the puck at that size. One of the biggest unicorn prospects as far as size/skill go


Not a fair expectation to have on Edvinsson, Seider just had one of the best rookie seasons for a dman in a long time and was a year older. Honestly, if the wings get Edvinsson to play in his prime as good as rookie Seider they should be really happy

I didn't mean that he would be as good as Seider already is. My hope is that he would be as dominant among his peers in his draft class and other rookies as Seider was last year making him a potential Calder Trophy candidate. That is not an unfair expectation since he would be competing with Power, Hughes and other players of similar age and stage of development this coming season for the Calder Trophy.

 

[SuperScript29]

When did he say this stuff? Yesterday Yzerman said that people have to remember Seider had an additional year before he joined Red Wings ( +1 SHL +2 In GR). I felt as if he was preparing us for the likelyness he plays in GR. Obviously he is well aware all of us funs have high hopes and dreams he starts in NHL this year.

It's just so hard to say until we atleast see him in preseason.

What is clear here is that Edvinsson is gonna get his chance to make the club this year, if he impresses right off the bat, they'll keep him up, if they feel he's not ready, then GR may be an option. Looking at what we have, I like his chances to be with the big club.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

He said in an interview he gave today that he grew another centimeter since his last measurement so he is now 1.99 m tall or over 6'6" now nearly 2 inches higher then when he was first drafted and weighs 210 lbs.



The Redwings defenceman are going to be tough on opposing forwards to physically dominate in the future with their height and heft with Seider being over 6'4", William Wallinder also at 6'4" with both Seider and Edvinsson known for their physical play in addition to their all around game.

Aside from his height, Edvinsson is also an excellent skater and stickhandler.

It would be interesting to see who among Power, Edvinsson, Hughes and Clarke ends up being the best defenceman prospect from last year's draft.

I honestly don't think it will be clear cut but I'd bet money on Power, Edvinsson and Hughes pulling away while Clarke is off in the distance. They're all vastly different defensemen that all bring something to each team that they need. All 3 will be transition monsters.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

When Simon Edvinsson is an impact top 4 D-man and I do just think that is a when and not an if is when we have playoff potential as a roster. I know it is pressure, but he really is a specimen in terms of how well he moves and I would like to think playing with Mo is going to have a massive impact in terms of a development aspect. I don't put that pressure on him right away, but I am really pumped for this guy.

 

[StreetHawk]

When Simon Edvinsson is an impact top 4 D-man and I do just think that is a when and not an if is when we have playoff potential as a roster. I know it is pressure, but he really is a specimen in terms of how well he moves and I would like to think playing with Mo is going to have a massive impact in terms of a development aspect. I don't put that pressure on him right away, but I am really pumped for this guy.

For Detroit it was a wise investment to sign Chariot. Most logical choice as his partner during his elc years. Can’t attach him to sieder and the big minutes. Hronek is weak defensively. Lindstrom is a work in progress trying to secure an everyday spot. Needed someone defensively reliable. Don’t want Evindsson operating in chaos of decision making was a knock on him at the draft.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

I didn't mean that he would be as good as Seider already is. My hope is that he would be as dominant among his peers in his draft class and other rookies as Seider was last year making him a potential Calder Trophy candidate. That is not an unfair expectation since he would be competing with Power, Hughes and other players of similar age and stage of development this coming season for the Calder Trophy.

I believe Hughes is going back to Michigan. I think he will be pro at the end of the year burning off a year. Quinn made a similar choice.

 

[19 for president]

I definitely think Ed could make the Wings this season, but I also don't think he will have a Seider like impact. I expect him to look more like a 4-6 dman rather than a #1 and that is partially due to being a year younger than Seider at this stage.

I expect him to be a transition beast, add a bit more physicality and be a big minute muncher at his best. He and Seider could be an absolutely dominant pair for a very long time.

 

[SuperScript29]

I definitely think Ed could make the Wings this season, but I also don't think he will have a Seider like impact. I expect him to look more like a 4-6 dman rather than a #1 and that is partially due to being a year younger than Seider at this stage.

I expect him to be a transition beast, add a bit more physicality and be a big minute muncher at his best. He and Seider could be an absolutely dominant pair for a very long time.

Let's not forget that Seider played in the AHL then the SHL before playing on the Wings. So technically speaking if Edvinsson makes the Wings this season, he would be a year earlier. I personally think he should start the year with the GR and see where he goes from there.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

For Detroit it was a wise investment to sign Chariot. Most logical choice as his partner during his elc years. Can’t attach him to sieder and the big minutes. Hronek is weak defensively. Lindstrom is a work in progress trying to secure an everyday spot. Needed someone defensively reliable. Don’t want Evindsson operating in chaos of decision making was a knock on him at the draft.

They have hinted pretty heavily that there idea is probably to play Chariot with Seider. I don't dislike the signing as much as a some people. I remember the guy that was more disappointing in Winnipeg, but I think he has been substantially better than that for a while. He has carried the high minutes to absorb that partnership in a way I believe Maatta cannot. I also think Chariot will be a protector for Mo, not that he needs it, but still I like that aspect of it and I am sure a few in the organization thought of that as well in my opinion.

We will have to see if Lalonde believes in stacking pairings, he comes from a coaching tree where I lean towards him separating Seider and Edvinssson, but he might decide to power them together if Edvinsson shows well.

 

[ZDH]

Man amongst boys at the prospect tournament despite just stepping off the tarmac. He's 7' tall in skates and moves like butter.

I wouldn't take Hughes/Power/any d prospect over him at this point. Having him and Seider on the same blueline for decades is borderline unfair.