RD Moritz Seider (2019, 6th, DET) Part 3
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JohnLennon
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Why's that? A solid track record is as good as you're gonna get for evaluating something as unpredictable as drafting. Of course there are many other factors going into it: the quality of your amateur scouts, the development of the player, your draft position, etc... but as far as gauging the quality of the picks made under the helm of a GM, Yzerman is near the top. Frankly I don't think that's very debatable right now.
For the record, I'm a Habs fan. No bias here. I'm just quite confident Yzerman has hit on this Seider pick the way he has hit on many others in his career. Of course, there's still lots of room for things to change - as is the nature of prospect development - but I like the pick as things stand.
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Looks like Yzerman also surrounded himself with good scouts then, huh? Sounds like a smart GM to me!
Lol just messing with ya my friend, you said the phrase wrong, so I said a phrase wrong.
You said benefit out of doubt, when its supposed to be benefit of the doubt.
So I said bag of worms when its supposed to be can of worms
I'll see myself out...
JohnLennon
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OMG I didn't even notice my own typo.... my bad hahaha!!!Lol just messing with ya my friend, you said the phrase wrong, so I said a phrase wrong.
You said benefit out of doubt, when its supposed to be benefit of the doubt.
So I said bag of worms when its supposed to be can of worms
I'll see myself out...
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gwh
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Stupid question but where I can find the past winners and the selection criteria for this "award"?
Pavels Dog
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- 2013: William Karlsson, c, HV71
- 2014: Alexander Wennberg, c, Frölunda
- 2015: Axel Holmström, c, Skellefteå
- 2016: Gustav Forsling, b, Linköping
- 2017: Joel Eriksson Ek, c, Färjestad
- 2018: Elias Pettersson, c, Växjö
- 2019: Emil Bemtröm, fw, Djurgården
- 2020: Nils Lundkvist, b, Luleå
No criteria beyond ”best U20 player”.
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Brutal take, like your other ones here. I would say the g.m. has the final say 100% of the time. You seem to be trying too hard with your trolling.
What a team guy. Wins a massive award, immediately deflects all attention off him as an individual and praises the team.
Can't wait to see this guy in Detroit.
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He says yesterday in an german podcast that he want.
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OgeeOgelthorpe
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Not a bad list. The only one that isn't an NHLer (or future NHLer) is Axel Holmstrom.
To be fair Brodin, Hedman, and Karlsson did not play in the SHL at the same age that Seider is now. Klefbom played 11 games in D2. Dahlin didn't either. None of them had the benefit of playing in AHL previously.
I wouldn't expect anything less than Seider to be better than a younger version of these players.
Seider’s game is very polished at a young age but that doesn’t mean he’ll be Hedman by any means. You guys are really setting yourselves up for disappointment by constantly talking about him as if there’s no way he isn’t at least a top pairing guys. I’m excited for him too but let’s cool it a bit.
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I mean big expectations are fine but yeah, players who mature quickly are not necessarily the best in their at their peak. Brodin is a great example really. He jumped straight into the NHL at the age of 19 but stayed at almost the same level throughout the years. Seider is obviously a better prospect, no doubt about it, but it's really not a given he has so much potential left untapped.
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Isn't it weird it's okay for the entire hockey world to talk about him in that way but Wings fans should "cool it"?
He want and will Play.He says a bubble is no problem and he only wants to get better and playing for his country.
Agree with you for sure, let's not get too ahead of ourselves. But, you do have to realize that many of these comments praising Seider are people in Sweden that aren't Wings fans. I don't watch the SHL (although it has been fun to follow this year) , but I trust those who do watch it closely. The praise for Seider isn't only Wings fans, it is coming from extremely knowledgeable hockey people in Sweden.
At least quote me so I can help you with my post.
I said it's not surprising that D2 SHL Seider looks as good or better than D year SHL Hedman, especially because Seider has already played in the AHL.
20 year olds should look better than 17-18 year olds.
If you read that to mean that Seider is Hedman then you need to take your time reading others' posts.
Dahlin too, the transition isn't that easy. Ristolainen was also considered a can't miss Elite D as a prospect. Saying Hedman level is saying too much.
