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RD Moritz Seider (2019, 6th, DET) Part 2

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saska sault said:
This would fall under the category of incorrect.

Hes very fluid, great stride without even factoring in his size. Skating would be one of his key weapons. Not to say there isnt work to be done, last year in the AHL you could tell he needed to work on his footwork. He looks pretty improved this year and I would have zero concerns about him being very mobile even by NHL standards.
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His foot speed and edge work has noticeably improved. I’m sure the big ice helps with that as well.
 
I dont know if it's been said before but I kind of get Chelios vibes. Maybe a little less offensive upside but the play making/shot is there mixed with stellar defence and trucking unaware players.
 
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returnofthemack29 said:
I watched the last five of Seider’s games and, honestly, there’s a lot left to be desired. His positioning is decent, but he struggles to clear his man out of the crease and his goalie had to bail him out on quite a few good chances that he allowed. Also, his offensive game is quite pedestrian. I understand that Seider is still really young, but I thought NHL journeyman Gelinas has been better and more dangerous than Seider on his team.

The large ice in Sweden also makes it harder to properly evaluate prospects and I think that Seider will have a really difficult time with lateral speed and quickness of the NHL, which he’s not facing now.

Overall, he’s still a good d-man prospect that will, most likely, turn into a good top-4 d-man, but with all the hype that I’ve been hearing recently, Seider has really disappointed in all of my recent viewings!
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It's actually pretty funny.
This guy makes this post during Seider's only "slump" of the season (1 point in 6 games, -1).
Since then...

 
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Pavels Dog said:
It's actually pretty funny.
This guy makes this post during Seider's only "slump" of the season (1 point in 6 games, -1).
Since then...

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Yeah...having watched the breadth of his time with Grand Rapids, the World Juniors, and his time in the Swedish League. That he's even drawing this much attention from the other team, in terms of trying to get under his skin or intimidating him...game in and game out...is all the proof you need to know that Seider will be a big time player.
 
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My favorite thing about him thus far is that he integrates physicality into his play, and not the other way around. He’s not perfect but I honestly couldn’t name a younger player who consistently makes the right play after making physical contact. Usually physicality is temporarily disorienting and therefore is implicitly risky but Seider has moments where he doesnt even need to recover - he’s still in the play as much as he was before he laid that 190lb body out. He’s the most Datsyukian replica of physicality I’ve seen to date. And yet also a modern Scott Stevens.

With all that said, I’m actually worried about his initiation into the NHL. I feel like his reputation will precede him and he’ll be a target for every team’s heavyweight whenever he’s in the lineup AND I think he’ll find that NHL forwards are much more aware of his presence when physically sharing the ice. Could be a rough adjustment for the guy - and not even because of the talent necessarily, but because the North American media will pile on the relative NHL expectations and he’ll get undue attention when he should be adjusting.
 
Reddwit said:
My favorite thing about him thus far is that he integrates physicality into his play, and not the other way around. He’s not perfect but I honestly couldn’t name a younger player who consistently makes the right play after making physical contact. Usually physicality is temporarily disorienting and therefore is implicitly risky but Seider has moments where he doesnt even need to recover - he’s still in the play as much as he was before he laid that 190lb body out. He’s the most Datsyukian replica of physicality I’ve seen to date. And yet also a modern Scott Stevens.

With all that said, I’m actually worried about his initiation into the NHL. I feel like his reputation will precede him and he’ll be a target for every team’s heavyweight whenever he’s in the lineup AND I think he’ll find that NHL forwards are much more aware of his presence when physically sharing the ice. Could be a rough adjustment for the guy - and not even because of the talent necessarily, but because the North American media will pile on the relative NHL expectations and he’ll get undue attention when he should be adjusting.
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Most teams dont have heavyweights anymore and NHL players likely dont know/care who he is. He wont have a reputation from laying out guys in Sweden. He'll have to earn that rep like he has in every other league hes played in
 
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