RD Moritz Seider (2019, 6th, DET) Part 2

[Oberyn Martell]

It seems Rögle didn't release him for wjc

EDIT: Apparently it was Detroits decision to not release him

 

[theslatcher]

It seems Rögle didn't release him for wjc

EDIT: Apparently it was Detroits decision to not release him

Which is pretty weird considering he'll be in the SHL all season, so why not?

 

[DInTheB]

Which is pretty weird considering he'll be in the SHL all season, so why not?

He has been tearing up the SHL. At this point it feels like going to the WJC would be a step back in his development.

 

[Pavels Dog]

He was dominant already at last year's WJC. Sending him there again is pointless.

 

[raymond23]

Selfishly, I'd like to see him at the WJC

 

[RedWingzz]

Selfishly, I'd like to see him at the WJC

Yeah, would have made it fun to watch Germany again, especially considering this year they should be able to be more competitive and win a couple games. I understand Detroit's decision though, they clearly view him as NHL talent at the moment, so let him keep playing well in the SHL.

 

[drw02]

He was dominant already at last year's WJC. Sending him there again is pointless.

Disagree, some teams send guys who have already played in NHL. It's the top players in the world in his peer group so still plenty of competition. In addition it's also a great experience and showcase for these kids and an honor to represent their country. I mean the AHL is a harder league than SHL but the Wings still sent Zadina to WJC in 2018-19 and Seider last year while they were playing for Grand Rapids. Unless Seider didn't want to go for whatever reason, this kinda makes no sense to me.

 

[CupofOil]

Yeah, would have made it fun to watch Germany again, especially considering this year they should be able to be more competitive and win a couple games. I understand Detroit's decision though, they clearly view him as NHL talent at the moment, so let him keep playing well in the SHL.

I don't think playing at the WJC would hurt his development though. He's not tearing up the SHL like Seider is but the Oilers are allowing Broberg to play at the WJC then he'll head right back to Sweden in early January.

I don't know, maybe I'm just disappointed that we don't get to see him on the big stage at the WJC.

 

[seadawg]

Obviously we won't know for certain, but I really hope Detroit asked Seider and he said he didn't want to go to the WJC. Seems to me that if the player really wanted to go, Detroit would have let him go. Why risk upsetting/disappointed a young player. I realize hockey is a business, but like all businesses it is a good idea to keep your employees happy and content.

I can see Seider not wanting to go to the WJC again, given the risk of COVID and exiting and re-entering whatever bubble he is currently part of while playing in the SHL. It isn't quite as simple as other years. Yet, I hope the decision was ultimately Seider's and not Detroit's.

 

[Oberyn Martell]

Obviously we won't know for certain, but I really hope Detroit asked Seider and he said he didn't want to go to the WJC. Seems to me that if the player really wanted to go, Detroit would have let him go. Why risk upsetting/disappointed a young player. I realize hockey is a business, but like all businesses it is a good idea to keep your employees happy and content.

I can see Seider not wanting to go to the WJC again, given the risk of COVID and exiting and re-entering whatever bubble he is currently part of while playing in the SHL. It isn't quite as simple as other years. Yet, I hope the decision was ultimately Seider's and not Detroit's.

I really don't think it was his own decision. He was always really proud playing for germany and never quited of playing for national team. Looking at the press release it underlines my suggestion

 

[seadawg]

I really don't think it was his own decision. He was always really proud playing for germany and never quited of playing for national team. Looking at the press release it underlines my suggestion

If so, then that is just sad, and a bit surprising considering Yzerman was a player who suited up for Team Canada every chance he got and I'm sure he found the experience invaluable. A player representing his country is a proud moment, and unless Seider opted out on his own, I'm disappointed in Yzerman and Detroit.

 

[Pavels Dog]

Disagree, some teams send guys who have already played in NHL. It's the top players in the world in his peer group so still plenty of competition. In addition it's also a great experience and showcase for these kids and an honor to represent their country. I mean the AHL is a harder league than SHL but the Wings still sent Zadina to WJC in 2018-19 and Seider last year while they were playing for Grand Rapids. Unless Seider didn't want to go for whatever reason, this kinda makes no sense to me.

True enough! But I think Seider is more NHL ready than for example Zadina in 18-19 though, as well as this being a special year with Covid.
Would have been fun seeing him there especially for those unable to watch SHL games, but I don’t think he would have anything to learn from it.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

Power is also not going.

I'm getting the sense that this probably has something to do with international travel and quarantining. Might lose Seider for two weeks before and after the tournament just to quarantine. All that for a team that has no chance of making it to the medal play with or without him.

 

[seadawg]

Power is also not going.

I'm getting the sense that this probably has something to do with international travel and quarantining. Might lose Seider for two weeks before and after the tournament just to quarantine. All that for a team that has no chance of making it to the medal play with or without him.

excellent point. It really is more complicated than in past years. Having Seider miss upwards of 5 or 6 weeks (2 weeks quarantine pre-tournament, one or two weeks at the tournament, and 2 weeks quarantine post-tournament) in the SHL to play a handful of games in the WJC doesn't make a lot of sense for his development, though it is hard to put a price on the experience of representing one's country. Certainly not an easy decision.

 

[Sparty]

Probably just isn't a great idea to be sending any already drafted players to WJC, why risk it?

 

[EXTRAS]

It seems Rögle didn't release him for wjc

EDIT: Apparently it was Detroits decision to not release him

Booooooooooo.

 

[Fatass]

He was dominant already at last year's WJC. Sending him there again is pointless.

This and doesn’t the WJC go past January 1st? Maybe Detroit wants Seider in their opening night lineup?

 

[seadawg]

This and doesn’t the WJC go past January 1st? Maybe Detroit wants Seider in their opening night lineup?

I believe it has been determined that he must stay with the SHL team until their season is over, at best joining Detroit very late in the NHL season.

 

[Fatass]

I believe it has been determined that he must stay with the SHL team until their season is over, at best joining Detroit very late in the NHL season.

Then, to me, it makes no sense for the Wings to keep him out of the WJC. Maybe Seider wants to stay with his SHL team, and the Wings thought it best to say publicly they were keeping him out rather than it coming from the player?

 

[TheMule93]

Then, to me, it makes no sense for the Wings to keep him out of the WJC. Maybe Seider wants to stay with his SHL team, and the Wings thought it best to say publicly they were keeping him out rather than it coming from the player?

Because he would miss 6 weeks worth of SHL games to play a few WJC games

2 weeks quarantined on the way there
2 weeks at the WJC
2 weeks quarantined back in sweden

 

[seadawg]

Then, to me, it makes no sense for the Wings to keep him out of the WJC. Maybe Seider wants to stay with his SHL team, and the Wings thought it best to say publicly they were keeping him out rather than it coming from the player?

Impossible to say. There are many factors, including (as mentioned above) playing in a handful of WJC games actually means that Seider would be forced to miss between 5 and 6 weeks of action in the SHL, due to pre and post-tournament quarantine from traveling. Hard to say if those WJC games are worth it when he'd have to miss so much time in the SHL.

 

[Claypool]

Moritz Seider, the Detroit Red Wings' top pick in the 2019 draft, has decided not to play in this year’s World Junior Championship.

Seider, 19, was Germany’s captain at last year’s event, when he tallied six assists in seven games. This year’s WJC will be in Edmonton from Dec. 26 to Jan. 5.

Red Wings assistant general manager Ryan Martin said the club supports Seider’s decision.

“We left it up to the player,” Martin said. “He has made the decision that he would like to continue playing with Rogle (in the Swedish Hockey League) as opposed to the World Juniors. We would have been supportive of whatever he wanted to do.”

Seider weighed several factors, including the travel, having to spend time in a bubble and having to miss several games in Sweden.

More: Red Wings’ top prospect Moritz Seider to skip World Juniors

 

[seadawg]

Moritz Seider, the Detroit Red Wings' top pick in the 2019 draft, has decided not to play in this year’s World Junior Championship.

Seider, 19, was Germany’s captain at last year’s event, when he tallied six assists in seven games. This year’s WJC will be in Edmonton from Dec. 26 to Jan. 5.

Red Wings assistant general manager Ryan Martin said the club supports Seider’s decision.

“We left it up to the player,” Martin said. “He has made the decision that he would like to continue playing with Rogle (in the Swedish Hockey League) as opposed to the World Juniors. We would have been supportive of whatever he wanted to do.”

Seider weighed several factors, including the travel, having to spend time in a bubble and having to miss several games in Sweden.

More: Red Wings’ top prospect Moritz Seider to skip World Juniors

Thank you! This makes perfect sense to me. I would have been surprised otherwise. It doesn't seem like something Yzerman, nor the Wings, would have done (both are normally class acts).

 

[NotLeddy]

Red Wings’ top prospect Moritz Seider to skip World Juniors

Seider made the decision to not go himself according to one of Detroit's most trustworthy beat writers

 

[newfy]

Red Wings’ top prospect Moritz Seider to skip World Juniors

Seider made the decision to not go himself according to one of Detroit's most trustworthy beat writers

Honestly, he might be the best player in the SHL right now with his hes been playing. makes sense to not waste a month of playing hockey by quarantining on the way to the WJC and then back just to go back and play against kids.

I would love to see it because his hype would go through the roof and the Dach Seider battle could be awesome again, but it definitely makes sense in the long run to not play