RD Mitchell Miller - Tri-City Storm, USHL (2020, 111th, ARI, rights renounced)

[Paper]

I'm not excusing bullying behavior.

You must be a great magician because you certainly fooled me.

 

[theslatcher]

I wasn't aware that the bullying occurred after up until 2 years ago.

Regarding bullying that happened from 2nd grade to 8th grade......there is nothing uncommon about that. Kids can be cruel. It's been going on since the dawn of mankind.

I'm sure most people (including mysellf) have done things at that age that they are ashamed of. Including many of the people online throwing stones at him.

Yes, every kid does things to other kids that afterwards they need to test themselves for HIV, hepatitis, and AIDS afterwards, haha, kids, right?

Lets not mention the fact that there were two bullies. The other bully has been forgiven. Miller, though? Even in his apology letter through Yotes PR it says this: "I am extremely sorry about the bullying incident that occurred in 2016 while I was in eighth grade."

He's sorry for one day of 8 years of bullying. How generous of him.

 

[MuckOG]

You must be a great magician because you certainly fooled me.

This is exactly what I'm talking about. Stating that childhood bullying has been going on since the dawn of time and will continue until the end of time is just stating a fact. But nuance is not something that Pitchfork Nation is capable of.

Miller is the worst person to ever walk the planet. He should be prevented from ever earning a living. He should hang his head in shame until the day he dies.

Is that better? Because that seems to be the general sentiment of the mob.

 

[izlez]

Were you ever a kid? Were you ever bullied? You act as if Miller is the only person to ever bully someone, and the mentally disabled child was the only one to have ever been bullied. Kids can be absolutely mean and cruel. The hope is that as they mature into adulthood, they learn that bullying is not acceptable.

I'm not excusing bullying behavior, but we don't need to go to extremes here either.

If this is so normal, can you provide a list of other NHL draftees from the past 20 years that have had similar stories?

 

[Carlzner]

I didn't "conveniently" leave out any details. I read one single story online and I didn't take the time to read through this entire thread. I wasn't being facetious when I was asking what I was missing.

You quite literally came in the thread to try and stir shit up with some "Anti-SJW" nonsense:

"3) The mob believes that Miller should be canceled for life because he was an idiot in the 8th grade.
4) And nothing he can do from this point forward should ever allow him to live it down and move on with his life."

Without knowing much of the important details that are eliciting a response from many people.

I'd be beating a dead horse that you clearly didn't bother to read through earlier by re-iterating the fact that cutting him from an NHL team & making him pay his way through to get an education just like everyone else in the country is most certainly not "cancelling him for life"

 

[Carlzner]

This is exactly what I'm talking about. Stating that childhood bullying has been going on since the dawn of time and will continue until the end of time is just stating a fact. But nuance is not something that Pitchfork Nation is capable of.

Miller is the worst person to ever walk the planet. He should be prevented from ever earning a living. He should hang his head in shame until the day he dies.

Is that better? Because that seems to be the general sentiment of the mob.

It is? Crazy how you've read through 3 entire threads just 10 minutes after admitting you haven't.

 

[Paper]

This is exactly what I'm talking about. Stating that childhood bullying has been going on since the dawn of time and will continue until the end of time is just stating a fact. But nuance is not something that Pitchfork Nation is capable of.

Miller is the worst person to ever walk the planet. He should be prevented from ever earning a living. He should hand his head in shame until the day he dies.

Is that better?

There's a difference with your run of the mill 'boys will be boys' bullying that unfortunately happens and actual criminal actions that Miller did for a near decade. That's where you should be looking at the nuance.

Implying that most of us have done something like this is either very insincere as I doubt many of us were criminally charged for a racial attack on a disabled victim or you think that what he did wasn't that bad. I don't know which one it is, but neither is right.

 

[MXD]

I wasn't aware that the bullying occurred after up until 2 years ago.

Regarding bullying that happened from 2nd grade to 8th grade......there is nothing uncommon about that. Kids can be cruel. It's been going on since the dawn of mankind.

I'm sure most people (including mysellf) have done things at that age that they are ashamed of. Including many of the people online throwing stones at him.

...There are three kinds of bullying.

You can steal the sandwich of a bullied kid and make him work to get it back.
You can steal the sandwich of a bullied kid and eat it in front of him.
You can steal the sandwich of a bullied kid, take a big dump in said sandwich, give if back to the bullied kid and made him eat the turd sandwich.

First and second kind are objectionnable, and the kind of stuff to be ashamed of. Not uncommon. Gets away with age. Third is the stuff of pure sociopaths.
What Miller did was way, way closer to the 3rd kind. On a long period. On a disabled kid.
He deserves all the stones he's gonna receive, preferably from Randy Johnson.

 

[MuckOG]

If the internet were around 25 years ago, Randy Moss would've been cancelled before ever playing a down in the NFL.

 

[Paper]

If the internet were around 25 years ago, Randy Moss would've been cancelled before every playing a down in the NFL.

The internet was around 25 years ago.

 

[MXD]

If the internet were around 25 years ago, Randy Moss would've been cancelled before every playing a down in the NFL.

I've got news for you regarding this Internet thing...

 

[xoczar99ox]

The internet is going to/already has destroyed this kids future. I really hope he has a good mute button and strong support group or he doesn’t have a hope in hell of making it.

 

[MuckOG]

I've got news for you regarding this Internet thing...

We have a literalist here.

The internet and social media in the late 90's was not the same internet we have today...and you know this to be true.

 

[Fatass]

Were you ever a kid? Were you ever bullied? You act as if Miller is the only person to ever bully someone, and the mentally disabled child was the only one to have ever been bullied. Kids can be absolutely mean and cruel. The hope is that as they mature into adulthood, they learn that bullying is not acceptable.

I'm not excusing bullying behavior, but we don't need to go to extremes here either.

Was Miller’s behaviour “bullying”?

 

[MuckOG]

Was Miller’s behaviour “bullying”?

Of course it was and I'm not excusing his behavior. I just think that preventing him from earning a living playing hockey because of what he did as a child is taking this too far.

 

[Khoenator]

Were you ever a kid? Were you ever bullied? You act as if Miller is the only person to ever bully someone, and the mentally disabled child was the only one to have ever been bullied. Kids can be absolutely mean and cruel. The hope is that as they mature into adulthood, they learn that bullying is not acceptable.

I'm not excusing bullying behavior, but we don't need to go to extremes here either.

This is sad.

This topic has been covered here already, and still this wrong using of words happen.

Yes, your way of thinking about bullying is about right.

Sad fact is... What has happened here is not bullying... It was ABUSING. Years after Years.. Violence, making your victim eat candy with urine on.

You do not get In front of judge for bullying... It is and was abuse.

 

[Carlzner]

Of course it was and I'm not excusing his behavior. I just think that preventing him from earning a living playing hockey because of what he did as a child is taking this too far.

This is literally excusing his behavior

 

[ER89]

Define what this "taunting" was please. Are you referring to him rollerblading past the house or something more?

does it matter. You have to be a grade a asshole to do even that. Apologize, stfu, and don't go near the kid. It isn't THAT hard to understand.

 

[branch]

Of course it was and I'm not excusing his behavior. I just think that preventing him from earning a living playing hockey because of what he did as a child is taking this too far.

So brave

 

[MuckOG]

This is sad.

This topic has been covered here already, and still this wrong using of words happen.

Yes, your way of thinking about bullying is about right.

Sad fact is... What has happened here is not bullying... It was ABUSING. Years after Years.. Violence, making your victim eat candy with urine on.

You do not get In front of judge for bullying... It is and was abuse.

Was Miller not a child at the time? Do we generally hold adults responsible for what they did as children/minors?

 

[MuckOG]

So brave

Is it more brave to join the mob?

 

[Carlzner]

Was Miller not a child at the time? Do we generally hold adults responsible for what they did as children/minors?

It's cute watching you make arguments after admitting you haven't read all the evidence, evidence that totally contradicts these silly statements.

Maybe if you took the time to educate yourself on things that have happened after the court case you'd have a better understanding of the situation.

 

[MuckOG]

It's cute watching you make arguments after admitting you haven't read all the evidence, evidence that totally contradicts these silly statements.

Maybe if you took the time to educate yourself on things that have happened after the court case you'd have a better understanding of the situation.

Answer my question. Was Miller a child/minor at the time of the bullying?

Heck, in many cases kids commit murder and the offense doesn't follow them after they become adults.

 

[branch]

Is it more brave to join the mob?

I'm the first guy in the world literally to shit all over cancel culture and SJWs, but at this point if you're defending this kid you're just a f***ing idiot. This happened 4 years ago. Mitchell Miller is only 18. This is recent history.

 

[Paper]

The internet is going to/already has destroyed this kids future. I really hope he has a good mute button and strong support group or he doesn’t have a hope in hell of making it.

The internet is destroying his future? I don't know, I think maybe it has to do with the fact that he called a disabled Black teen racial slurs while feeding him a urinal snack and then not seeking forgiveness from his victim. But, then again maybe it is this internet-thing that was just invented.