Value of: RD David Savard

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ole ole

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For a legitimate top 4 defenceman I'd pay a lot.

For a guy that's 34 in October, that can't stay healthy, who gets speedbagged when he's on the ice, and whose best quality in 2024 is "leadership" which is hockey code for "he's bad, we know he's bad, but we want to gaslight other fanbases into thinking he's not bad" I would pay nothing.
He's exactly the type of D-man that would help and fit right in on the Oilers.
Some can't seem to see or want to understand that.
There's a few D-man that would fit their need and Savard is obviously one.
 

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He's not trash, but I'm not seeing anything to suggest he's an upgrade on Ceci, and valuing Savard at 1st+Holloway+Ceci is absolute insanity.
One poster and you go off on a rampage. First he's bad, we know he's bad to he's not trash. Fact is he's neither bad or trash and has a fair contract for what he brings. I'm quite happy in keeping him.
 
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One poster and you go off on a rampage. First he's bad, we know he's bad to he's not trash. Fact is he's neither bad or trash and has a fair contract for what he brings. I'm quite happy in keeping him.
Please do. We are absolutely and completely unwilling to pay anything in the same solar system as you guys seem to value him. We'd view a Ceci-Savard swap as pretty much even.
 
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Cody Ceci is a +0.9 by this measure, while Savard is -6.7.

Evan Bouchard is +19.1, Desharnais is +3.1.

I'd imagine its measure is imperfect because as far as I can see most Habs D are firmly negative, but it doesn't seem to mind Jordan Harris, strangely enough. It has Savard as the worst Habs D by a mile, though.
 

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If you trade Savard, it's to make your team better or find someone younger who replaces him. He's not a superstar but he is highly respected in the locker room and on the ice. His type doesn't grow on trees and I don't see anyone with his attributes available now or this summer. It's always possible but I doubt the Habs trade him.
Savard the kind makes the difference of a ring or not.

Like to move him, Allen and Armia. This summer Use the caproom to sign a UFA like Tanev, Walker or Dumba
 

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I'd imagine its measure is imperfect because as far as I can see most Habs D are firmly negative, but it doesn't seem to mind Jordan Harris, strangely enough. It has Savard as the worst Habs D by a mile, though.
I'm glad we got Oilers fans telling us that Jordan Harris who's gotten healthy scratched numerous times, can't PK well, and is useless offensively is better than Savard. You and those charts clearly know more than the Habs fans who've watched every game when you say David Savard is the worst Habs D by a mile.

If you're ever in town, I'd love to have you over for poker night.
 

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He's exactly the type of D-man that would help and fit right in on the Oilers.
Some can't seem to see or want to understand that.
There's a few D-man that would fit their need and Savard is obviously one.
Yeah Savard is a good defensive D. Heart and soul kind of player
 
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The Great Weal

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I doubt it. Why burn a retention slot next season for such a team friendly cap hit? If the acquiring team is cap-strapped, they can always send back a cap dump or a third party broker can be found.
While not overpaid, Savard at 3.5 isn't exactly a low contract like a Monahan. The retention slot should be used on Savard to get a 1st as opposed to the other players who will likely net a mid round pick with retention.
 

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Likely keeping him. I'm sure Hughes wants a first or a good prospect and we likely won't be getting that, keep him for another season to mentor and take care of the young D core.
 

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A Ceci for Savard swap sure would be a pointless trade. Garbage in garbage out

In what world is Savard garbage lol...how people still doubt habs fans after Chiarot, Monahan, Kulak, Lehkonen and Toffoli trades among probably others is mindblowing.

We know what we're talking about, and the habs have arguably one the best GMs in the NHL when it comes to making trades.
 

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In what world is Savard garbage lol...how people still doubt habs fans after Chiarot, Monahan, Kulak, Lehkonen and Toffoli trades among probably others is mindblowing.

We know what we're talking about, and the habs have arguably one the best GMs in the NHL when it comes to making trades.
We know that we know .
 

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I'm glad we got Oilers fans telling us that Jordan Harris who's gotten healthy scratched numerous times, can't PK well, and is useless offensively is better than Savard. You and those charts clearly know more than the Habs fans who've watched every game when you say David Savard is the worst Habs D by a mile.

If you're ever in town, I'd love to have you over for poker night.
Gladly, since every Habs fan seems to be a guy that goes all in on 7-2 offsuit and then gets mad when they bust.

I still remember you guys saying you’d get a first for Edmundson and Petry too.
 
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Unless Ceci is considered a cap dump and Holloway is a total throw in, EDM adding a first to that isn’t reasonable. I can see the Habs having interest in Holloway though.

A late first (or equivalent prospect) and a small plus while retaining %50 is likely what Habs are hoping to trade him for. The market will obviously impact that though.
 

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Gladly, since every Habs fan seems to be a guy that goes all in on 7-2 offsuit and then gets mad when they bust.

I still remember you guys saying you’d get a first for Edmundson and Petry too.
Please find actual quotes about Edmundson and Petry. I'd argue Matheson is far better than a first, and Edmundson's return was compromised by his health issues, we all knew that.

Unless Ceci is considered a cap dump and Holloway is a total throw in, EDM adding a first to that isn’t reasonable. I can see the Habs having interest in Holloway though.

A late first (or equivalent prospect) and a small plus while retaining %50 is likely what Habs are hoping to trade him for. The market will obviously impact that though.
I don't expect Savard to be moved, if the return on Tanev is any indication, the market isn't at the needed insanity level to move a guy the team doesn't want to move.
 

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Unless Ceci is considered a cap dump and Holloway is a total throw in, EDM adding a first to that isn’t reasonable. I can see the Habs having interest in Holloway though.

A late first (or equivalent prospect) and a small plus while retaining %50 is likely what Habs are hoping to trade him for. The market will obviously impact that though.
We keeping Savard. He wants to stay here and is solid player. Real good veteran in dressing room for our young defense. We had to trade similar character guy in Monahan. We won't make same mistake on Savard. A late first rarely makes impact.
 

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I'll repeat the same thing I wrote in many other threads: I think he needs to be kept in Montreal, since the D is very, very young. We have a 1st and a 2nd year player on the top 4 already. (ie, Struble and Guhle)

I'd only move him for a high price, that gives Montreal both assets for the future and assets to bolster the blueline in the short term; that's likely a 1st and a 2nd (ie, the 1st for the long-term, the 2nd to replace Savard over the summer without overpaying on the UFA market).

I'd really rather just keep him for one more year, and move him for a 2nd (or more?) in a year, at the 2025 deadline.
I agree with this. I get that we are still in full rebuild mode and accumulating prospects and draft picks is a part of it but the blueline desperately needs some veteran presence which Savard provides (when healthy of course). I mean sure if a team comes in with an offer including a 1st rounder then Hughes would be dumb to not at least consider it but our young dmen are already asked to punch above their weight class as is.
 
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