Value of: RD David Savard
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best gm
best coach
3 young stars as first line players
best farm system (for years)
but somehow at the bottom of the standings.
the disconnect can only be explained by the nhl standings being completely wrong. must be a fact.
EveryDay
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A 2nd round pick + Matheson for Petry is not close to 1st round pick value?
Edmunston we were claiming 1st round value 2 years ago before his back was done, last year he was among the worst player in the entire NHL at -29.
Kosseca
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It is the same thing with every fan base... there is just more habs fans so you see more of those.
Captain97
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Funny enough Savard was on the team that beat the Habs in the finals.
Regarding only thing worth anything from that run we actually have 6 pieces and id say 2 of them have value (Suzuki and Caufield).
Otherwise you aren't too far off. Habs be rebuilding.
Well, we were claiming Toffoli, Petry & Chiarot all had first round pick value and they did, didn’t they? We got a first + for Toffoli, a first + for Chiarot and a 2nd + Matheson for Petry.
Edmundson also missed a full year - So although we did at some point said he would get a first him getting constantly injured and barely playing didn’t really help his value.
This year we said Monahan would get a first (he did) and that IF we trade Savard, he would also get a first.
You also asked a question regarding when was the Habs went “lately” and I responded by saying they went to the finals 3 years ago, which is true. You can also call that year a fluke or whatever else you want but Montreal did go through a stacked Leafs team then a team that beat yours (supposedly a cup favorite) then went on to beat Vegas which was also another cup favorite. Let’s not act like they had an easy run to the finals.
CDN24
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Yeah not much competition in that Cdn division, They beat the leafs but everybody beats them. They swept the jets but anybody could have done that .... well maybe except Edm. And finally they beat Vegas but I'm sure given a chance any team in that cdn division could have done that... well maybe except edm they had the chance to do that last year and blew it.
ChaoticOrange
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In the Canadian division year? lol no we weren't. Carey Price (also totally worth a first) last hurrah did some wonderful things for you that playoffs, I'll grant you that.
Pens fans largely thought of Matheson as nothing more than a cap dump because they weren't juicing his offensive numbers on the powerplay.
Florida regretted the Chiarot deal before the ink was even dry. As many predicted they would. The next defensive defenceman the Habs traded barely garnered anything and I sincerely believe Ben Chiarot is a big reason why. It's caveat emptor on Habs defencemen.
Again, I remain shocked that so many pieces of such a bad team are apparently worth the moon.
Kosseca
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That is also not unique to habs fan. Not denying that there are some pretty obtuse habs fan, but we are not all the same and there are plenty of disrespectful fan from other team.
Is this your first trade deadline or something?
The Tanev deal likely closes the door on Savard being traded.
Doubt KH would move him for that low of a return & hard to imagine many GMs wanting to pay a bigger premium after what Tanev went for.
Just as well for the Habs. Savard will be a good vet to have in the lineup next year with 1 or more of Reinbacher, Hutson & Mailloux likely to get significant time in Montreal (+ continuing to be a mentor to Guhle, Xhekaj, Barron, Strubble & Harris)
Doubt KH would move him for that low of a return & hard to imagine many GMs wanting to pay a bigger premium after what Tanev went for.
Just as well for the Habs. Savard will be a good vet to have in the lineup next year with 1 or more of Reinbacher, Hutson & Mailloux likely to get significant time in Montreal (+ continuing to be a mentor to Guhle, Xhekaj, Barron, Strubble & Harris)
BJCOLLINS
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WOW, an Oiler fan calling any team in any league flukey or lucky is extremely rich.
from winning draft lotteries to Gretz not being drafted, McDavid ??
Come on man…
from winning draft lotteries to Gretz not being drafted, McDavid ??
Come on man…
OVO16
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Friedman just mentioned David Savard is one of the names being linked to the Leafs. To go along with Nick Jensen as well
If Treliving wasn't willing to give a 1st for Tanev, I don't see it for Savard either, so I don't know if deal gets made. Even though Savard isn't a rental
If Treliving wasn't willing to give a 1st for Tanev, I don't see it for Savard either, so I don't know if deal gets made. Even though Savard isn't a rental
I don’t doubt Hughes can get value for him as he has done before. He’s obviously very good at driving up the market for his players. I don’t know how he does that, but every year there’s a must have player on the canadiens!
I think some of those players are good (Lehkonen) and I think some are bad (Chiarot)
Would Hughes get value for him? Probably if he wants to. Does that make Savard a good player that will help a team win a cup? I don’t believe so, no.
Maybe your lack of objectiveness and your cynism do though...
Go ahead and ignore the fact that the habs are the youngest team and are currently building (for only 2y now) in your evaluation, just to try to look right.
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pth2
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Treliving and Hughes connected on the Monahan and Toffoli deals, so they do find a way to find common ground.
General Fanager
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It doesnt have to be a 1st.
Savard makes much less than Tanev and as you said comes with an extra year on his deal so he helps for 2 playoff runs not just 1.
You shouldn’t be shocked since you saw with your own eyes for nearly a decade how a team can be mediocre yet still have players that are valued at or more than a first round pick.
You can use all the excuses you want. They still got all those first round pick for those “mediocre” players. Nothing you say or think will change that.
Carry on.
HuGort
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The thing is, it is said that the Flames were not helping their former GM Treliving, who now manages the Leafs.
Exactly, Edmunson fell off a cliff after his back injuries.
I'd say it's the other way around... some fans of other teams were saying we'd get a 3rd for Chiarot, a 5th for Kulak and a 2nd for Monahan.
Quick note, the 2nd from Penguins was from the 2nd Petry trade. The first trade was Petry + Poehling VS Matheson + 4th.
HuGort
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Savard is big heavy proven successful playoff defense man. Teams have to go through 4 rounds of usually brutal front of the net playoffs. He has high value
I might be wrong but I don’t think Hughes move Savard without a first coming back. Maybe the fact that you get Savard for 2 playoff run will make a GM more willing to put a first on the table?
HuGort
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For sure. Market is thin on right shot Defensemen this year. Habs should get premium return for Savard
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