Value of: RD David Savard

[McJedi]

Maybe take Evans out too but really it does do a couple things for the Habs, it clears up the extra goalie problem and gets a 1st for Savard. Habs have enough middle of the road picks and prospects so you want to use that last retention spot to get a 1st, you want to move Allen and Savard needs to be in any deal to get you a 1st. This accomplishes all those things. RyJo replaces Evans next year and by the following year Beck becomes that centre- not sure there is a spot for Evans long term anyway. Habs looking for quality over quantity in terms of return at this stage.

Evans is very needed. Avs need better Cs in the worst way. A 4C is important to them.

 

[ole ole]

Take the retention, Evans, Primeau, Johansen, and Olausson out of the deal and it would be a trade I'd do. If the Avs want a goalie from Montreal they can have Allen at 50% retained.

If going to the Avs. I'd rather save our retention spot and trade him straight up for Johansen.

 

[McSuper]

1st rounder + prospect for David Savard is crazy. Even if he isn't an expiring. Its still crazy

In my opinion, I agree with you. Having said that how many time were we wrong on what the Habs wanted and got for their players. Monahan I figure would return a 2nd, Habs fans said a 1st . I come to the conclusion not to argue with them on the value of their players. I just hope the Oiler don't play a first for Savard.

 

[Mr Positive]

In my opinion, I agree with you. Having said that how many time were we wrong on what the Habs wanted and got for their players. Monahan I figure would return a 2nd, Habs fans said a 1st . I come to the conclusion not to argue with them on the value of their players. I just hope the Oiler don't play a first for Savard.

Still, I'd be psyched to see him with Nurse. Savard is a guy where maybe his warts are more about how bad the Habs are. He'd be the best partner Nurse has got to play with since Sekera

 

[The Great Weal]

In my opinion, I agree with you. Having said that how many time were we wrong on what the Habs wanted and got for their players. Monahan I figure would return a 2nd, Habs fans said a 1st . I come to the conclusion not to argue with them on the value of their players. I just hope the Oiler don't play a first for Savard.

I'm going to be completely honest, I'd much rather trade a 1st for Savard at 50% instead of Monahan if I were a playoff team. That being said Ceci is already filling a similar role for the Oilers so I don't see why that makes sense for them.

 

[HuGort]

In my opinion, I agree with you. Having said that how many time were we wrong on what the Habs wanted and got for their players. Monahan I figure would return a 2nd, Habs fans said a 1st . I come to the conclusion not to argue with them on the value of their players. I just hope the Oiler don't play a first for Savard.

Habs fans generally know the best

 

[CDN24]

Still, I'd be psyched to see him with Nurse. Savard is a guy where maybe his warts are more about how bad the Habs are. He'd be the best partner Nurse has got to play with since Sekera

Savard is playing too high in lineup in Mtl. He is getting all the toughest matchups on the 1st pair. Put him on the second pair and let him play the PK and he would be a great add. On a team with the talent Edm has you might be surprised at his offense too. He has 4G and 12 pts in 33 games with the offensively challenged Habs. Those 97 blocked shots in 33 games will be appreciated too

 

[OVO16]

I can see someone like Florida swoop in here and grab him. Gudas type replacement

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

Well Allen sucks and Savard is good so I don't really see what there is to think about.

Do you retain on the guy who sucks to make his value go from negative to slightly positive, or do you retain on the guy who is good to make his value go from positive to positive +

And then either way you're probably looking at 5.25m on the books next year with the player we can't trade and the retention from the player we do trade. Depending on the return and the Habs willingness to try and compete, I'd rather not have too much dead cap space

 

[CTHabsfan]

No thanks. A 1st for Jake Allen? He sucks. 89.4% save % is not what the Avs need to be blowing a 1st round pick on. Zero interest in that contract. Would spend the 2024 1st on a C well before I’d waste it on Allen. Allen is either washed or having a very bad season. Either way, that’s the last thing the Avs need.

I’d much rather trade an Olausson or Behrens for a different goalie that’s a backup elsewhere, cheaper and on an expiring deal.

I wasn't suggesting a 1st-round pick for Jake Allen, even with 50% retained, I'm just not interested in trading Cayden Primeau (unless someone makes an offer that's too good to refuse). I was saying the only part of your trade proposal of interest was Savard on Montreal's side and the 1st-rounder from Colorado.

 

[The Great Weal]

Do you retain on the guy who sucks to make his value go from negative to slightly positive, or do you retain on the guy who is good to make his value go from positive to positive +

And then either way you're probably looking at 5.25m on the books next year with the player we can't trade and the retention from the player we do trade. Depending on the return and the Habs willingness to try and compete, I'd rather not have too much dead cap space

Very obviously the guy who would fetch a good return as opposed to a late pick which we already got too many of.

Why? We have the cap space so what’s the issue?

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

Very obviously the guy who would fetch a good return as opposed to a late pick which we already got too many of.

Why? We have the cap space so what’s the issue?

What if the intent is to win games next year?

 

[The Great Weal]

What if the intent is to win games next year?

We have no expensive players to re-sign, cap space is not an issue next year. Pearson's 3.4 million also comes off the books. Unless we win the lottery, I don't see how we are a playoff team next year.

 

[McJedi]

I wasn't suggesting a 1st-round pick for Jake Allen, even with 50% retained, I'm just not interested in trading Cayden Primeau (unless someone makes an offer that's too good to refuse). I was saying the only part of your trade proposal of interest was Savard on Montreal's side and the 1st-rounder from Colorado.

What would you want for Allen at 50% retention?

Some Habs fans would say something really stupid like Ritchie or Byram because "Habs fans".

But knowing he is currently at 89% save percentage making far too much AAV to be saving just 89% of the shots he's facing...

I'm all ears. An idea on what type of pick(s) or level of prospect would be the response.

 

[CTHabsfan]

What would you want for Allen at 50% retention?

Some Habs fans would say something really stupid like Ritchie or Byram because "Habs fans".

But knowing he is currently at 89% save percentage making far too much AAV to be saving just 89% of the shots he's facing...

I'm all ears. An idea on what type of pick(s) or level of prospect would be the response.

I think a 2nd-rounder at 50% retention would be fair.

 

[General Fanager]

What would you want for Allen at 50% retention?

Some Habs fans would say something really stupid like Ritchie or Byram because "Habs fans".

But knowing he is currently at 89% save percentage making far too much AAV to be saving just 89% of the shots he's facing...

I'm all ears. An idea on what type of pick(s) or level of prospect would be the response.

A 2nd or equal level prospect.....

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

What would you want for Allen at 50% retention?

Some Habs fans would say something really stupid like Ritchie or Byram because "Habs fans".

But knowing he is currently at 89% save percentage making far too much AAV to be saving just 89% of the shots he's facing...

I'm all ears. An idea on what type of pick(s) or level of prospect would be the response.

Thats probably 10% of the Habs fans the rest of us know he sucks and isnt worth nothing so even at 50% will be lucky to get a 2nd which makes me wonder if hes even worth it to trade this season,maybe its better for us to wait until this summer and hope a team grabs him for free without retention

 

[ole ole]

Thats probably 10% of the Habs fans the rest of us know he sucks and isnt worth nothing so even at 50% will be lucky to get a 2nd which makes me wonder if hes even worth it to trade this season,maybe its better for us to wait until this summer and hope a team grabs him for free without retention

Allen Straight up for Johansen.

 

[Michoulicious]

Dallas is looking for a defensive RHD according to Insiders Trading on TSN.

If they lose on Tanev, I could see them targeting Savard.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Evans is very needed. Avs need better Cs in the worst way. A 4C is important to them.

Evans is a keeper for the Habs. He's one of those types that has modest improvement from season to season and today, he is a very solid 3C for us. Cost controlled type in the cap too... might get a raise on his next deal but nothing scary.

 

[Habs Halifax]

I think a 2nd-rounder at 50% retention would be fair.

I agree and I also think several teams would consider that. Because of this, I think his value is a bit higher. This is not a pure rental so getting a solid back-up at a very good cap hit for two seasons is not to be overlooked. So many contenders have goalie back up issues so that dictates TDL value. Supply/Demand.

Doubt we get a 1st but it's very possible we get 2nd+. Not sure what the add would be.

 

[CAUFIELD]

I agree and I also think several teams would consider that. Because of this, I think his value is a bit higher. This is not a pure rental so getting a solid back-up at a very good cap hit for two seasons is not to be overlooked. So many contenders have goalie back up issues so that dictates TDL value. Supply/Demand.

Doubt we get a 1st but it's very possible we get 2nd+. Not sure what the add would be.

Lmao in what world we get a 1st for Allen.. Cmon now . He would have been gone since a while. I’m sure a 3rd makes it happen

 

[Habs Halifax]

Lmao in what world we get a 1st for Allen.. Cmon now . He would have been gone since a while. I’m sure a 3rd makes it happen

Laugh your ass off looking in the mirror. Your style of post is why I prefer not to be on HF boards.

Comprehension seems to be an issue or you want a fight. My post said I doubt we get a 1st. Go somewhere else with your posting style.

 

[CAUFIELD]

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[Jared Dunn]

What would you want for Allen at 50% retention?

Some Habs fans would say something really stupid like Ritchie or Byram because "Habs fans".

But knowing he is currently at 89% save percentage making far too much AAV to be saving just 89% of the shots he's facing...

I'm all ears. An idea on what type of pick(s) or level of prospect would be the response.

No retention, Johansen + 2nd/3rd kinda deal