Value of: RD David Savard

[Guy Larose]

who would like David Savard? No need for presentation. He’s still good.

Contract is 3,5m$/year for another year. We want to retain to maximize value.

You decided that, did you? Doubt they retain on another contract that's not ending this year. They have 1 slot remaining.

 

[pth2]

Dont see Mailloux or Reinbacher in the NHL next season they should be with the Rocket and Savard will be on hes last year but even so veteran dmans are really not hard to find we can easily trade for one or sign one in the summer and magic beans really? acquiring picks is what rebuilding teams do thats why we traded so many vets for them

If a team offers a 1st for Savard at 50% you make that trade and smile anything less then that yea i rather keep him

Consider this: Ottawa has better young talent than Montreal, but have clearly been struggling to take that next step, and are now looking for good pros, veterans to help bring the kids along. We have such a player in Savard... why let him go ?

I mean, moving veterans for futures makes sense to a certain extent, but there is no reason to sell off every last one of them, and we can't only keep the anchor contracts, they aren't the pros we want kids to model themselves after.

 

[BLNY]

That.... Seems fast.

He had a really good camp. Wouldn't surprise me if they brought him over.

Re Savard: Short of an overpay from a bidding war, I'm inclined to keep him.

 

[Homesick]

Tanev is a far better defenseman and nobody has offered a 1st for him yet. Can't see how Savard gets a 1st plus

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

They should have him in Montreal for a bit to see where he's at with his development but he needs to play decent minutes.

No idea. Laval probably with a couple of NHL games to feel the pace is my bet

He had a really good camp. Wouldn't surprise me if they brought him over.

Re Savard: Short of an overpay from a bidding war, I'm inclined to keep him.

I dunno. I kinda hate bringing kids, short of all out super elite prospects (Like Bedard) up before they're ready. Seems like it hurts more often than helps.

Then again, I'm also looking at this through the lense of comparing Reinbacher to Seider, and Seider's development curve was skewed by COVID. If not for the AHL/NHL season being in question when the decision was made to send him to the SHL, he probably would've been in the NHL in his D+2.

 

[Gaud]

I think he fetches a late 1st (or equivalent) at the deadline, but not this summer.

I think there will be a few teams looking for a defensive RD with SC experience. The guy also puts the team before himself and is a plus in the locker room. Seems to me there may be a few takers. Things that are really going for him though: 1. Trade deadline = auctions and his type is rare and 2. He is a good veteran that seems to be doing wonders with the youngsters; it could be that he's more valuable to the habs than his return and that the habs arent actively shopping him.

 

[ole ole]

Tanev is a far better defenseman and nobody has offered a 1st for him yet. Can't see how Savard gets a 1st plus

Who cares about Tanev. Thread is about Savard.

 

[Jee]

Who cares about Tanev. Thread is about Savard.

He's talking about Savard's value

 

[ole ole]

He's talking about Savard's value

No he's trying to downplay his value.

 

[jellybeans]

I dunno. I kinda hate bringing kids, short of all out super elite prospects (Like Bedard) up before they're ready. Seems like it hurts more often than helps.

Then again, I'm also looking at this through the lense of comparing Reinbacher to Seider, and Seider's development curve was skewed by COVID. If not for the AHL/NHL season being in question when the decision was made to send him to the SHL, he probably would've been in the NHL in his D+2.

I would just let him play for a few games to see where his at i don't think their would be harm in doing that and you tell him what your doing.

 

[Bouboumaster]

For a 1st minimum or we don't even want to look at the trade

 

[The Nuge]

next year he will only be worth a 2nd or 3rd depending on his play but this year at 50% im sure he returns a 1st which has more value to our team then keeping him for 1 more year

Agreed. He’s a guy whose value varies drastically depending on retention imo. At full cap right now, he’s a slightly overpaid veteran #5 with playoff experience. The extra year makes it hard for a contender to fit him in. It’s hard to see him getting more than like a 3rd or 4th. At 50% retention, he’s now bargain, and exactly the kind of guy a contender would want considering they’d get him for a year and a half. A 1st suddenly doesn’t seem unreasonable.

Edm needs savard. They seem to deperatly need a bih rhd man.

Hard pass. It’s debatable if he’s an upgrade on Ceci, and I’d argue no. What does he accomplish for us? We need a guy like Tanev who can play on the top pairing with Nurse if we’re getting a dman

No he's trying to downplay his value.

No, he’s making an obvious comparison to discuss his value which is what the thread is about

 

[Ragdoll]

I understand his value is higher to Montreal than it is probably to an acquiring team but a world where he's worth a 1st or anywhere near that. Oilers should be selling on Ceci and Kulak.

 

[General Fanager]

Tanev is a far better defenseman and nobody has offered a 1st for him yet. Can't see how Savard gets a 1st plus

Agreed. He’s a guy whose value varies drastically depending on retention imo. At full cap right now, he’s a slightly overpaid veteran #5 with playoff experience. The extra year makes it hard for a contender to fit him in. It’s hard to see him getting more than like a 3rd or 4th. At 50% retention, he’s now bargain, and exactly the kind of guy a contender would want considering they’d get him for a year and a half. A 1st suddenly doesn’t seem unreasonable.



Hard pass. It’s debatable if he’s an upgrade on Ceci, and I’d argue no. What does he accomplish for us? We need a guy like Tanev who can play on the top pairing with Nurse if we’re getting a dman



No, he’s making an obvious comparison to discuss his value which is what the thread is about

Tanev is a UFA and Savard can be used for 2 playoff runs. Tanev also makes more.

The best option for The Habs is to wait until Tanev is traded and then see whats out there. If it isnt worth it then they can wait until next years deadline.....Same as they did with Monahan.....

 

[The Nuge]

Tanev is a UFA and Savard can be used for 2 playoff runs. Tanev also makes more.

The best option for The Habs is to wait until Tanev is traded and then see whats out there. If it isnt worth it then they can wait until next years deadline.....Same as they did with Monahan.....

That’s assuming they’re remotely comparable. Tanev is a somewhat significantly underpaid 2/3, while Savard is a slightly overpaid 5. The extra year isn’t a bonus when he’s not worth his contract. But as I said, with retention, his value raises dramatically. At 1.75 per, he’s underpaid and I can easily see a contender giving up a 1st like Tampa did with Goodrow and Coleman

 

[BLNY]

I dunno. I kinda hate bringing kids, short of all out super elite prospects (Like Bedard) up before they're ready. Seems like it hurts more often than helps.

Then again, I'm also looking at this through the lense of comparing Reinbacher to Seider, and Seider's development curve was skewed by COVID. If not for the AHL/NHL season being in question when the decision was made to send him to the SHL, he probably would've been in the NHL in his D+2.

When I say really good, if they didn't have the youthful depth they have I think he makes the Habs last fall. Granted it was pre-season, but his puck poise was visibly ahead of guys like Barron and Harris.

I situation is different of course, but given MSL's already strong work with youth I wouldn't be surprised in the least if they thought it best to have him in Montreal.

 

[Robtom18]

Blues offer nothing.

 

[Qwijibo]

That’s assuming they’re remotely comparable. Tanev is a somewhat significantly underpaid 2/3, while Savard is a slightly overpaid 5. The extra year isn’t a bonus when he’s not worth his contract. But as I said, with retention, his value raises dramatically. At 1.75 per, he’s underpaid and I can easily see a contender giving up a 1st like Tampa did with Goodrow and Coleman

Tanev plays 19:45 a game is and 4th in average TOI on the Flames (trailing Weeger who averages 22:05 minutes a game) but he's a 2/3D. Savard plays 20:33 a game and is 3RD in average TOI behind Guhle who plays 20:52, and he's a 5D? Well. That's a take I guess

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

I would just let him play for a few games to see where his at i don't think their would be harm in doing that and you tell him what your doing.

True. 9 games for the experience and you don't burn an ELC year.

 

[General Fanager]

That’s assuming they’re remotely comparable. Tanev is a somewhat significantly underpaid 2/3, while Savard is a slightly overpaid 5. The extra year isn’t a bonus when he’s not worth his contract. But as I said, with retention, his value raises dramatically. At 1.75 per, he’s underpaid and I can easily see a contender giving up a 1st like Tampa did with Goodrow and Coleman

Tanev is not a 2/3 dman.

 

[The Great Weal]

That’s assuming they’re remotely comparable. Tanev is a somewhat significantly underpaid 2/3, while Savard is a slightly overpaid 5. The extra year isn’t a bonus when he’s not worth his contract. But as I said, with retention, his value raises dramatically. At 1.75 per, he’s underpaid and I can easily see a contender giving up a 1st like Tampa did with Goodrow and Coleman

If your team is playing the current version of Tanev as a 2D then you aren’t a playoff team.

Habs would absolutely retain on Savard which makes his contract more enticing.

 

[spaghtti]

What’s your best offer?

Robtom is a blues fan

 

[HuGort]

who would like David Savard? No need for presentation. He’s still good.

Contract is 3,5m$/year for another year. We want to retain to maximize value.

Toffoli type return. Savard will fetch a first and solid prospect with No retention. If they want retention a future 2nd included

 

[Jack Spider]

Apparently Reinbacher is coming to NA in a couple of weeks max. Trading Savard now would make sense. Call up Barron or Mailloux - whichever is more deserving and run the other one and Reinbacher in your top 4 in Laval.

At 50% retained, I expect a 1st + B prospect or a close to being ready F prospect with top 6 potential and a 2nd round pick.

Is he? Reinbacher has missed swiss league practices/meetings for work and high school. I hope he doesn’t want to go to university.

 

[habsterr]

I'd expect fair value for Savard with no retain. He got pretty good value to Tampa a few years ago.

1st rounder
B level prospect
Cap dump