He shouldn't be brought up any quicker than Seider and Makar were. So two years imo.
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He shouldn't be brought up any quicker than Seider and Makar were. So two years imo.
I also would’ve thought Europe or AHL is most likely, but Spokane kept his rights in the CHL import draft this season and passed in the 2nd round to do so. That must mean that they at least have a small reason to believe he could come this year.
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With all due respect to Spokane, David has been playing top level pro hockey ever since he was 16, the CHL would be quite a step back for his development at this point. But who knows.
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Makar wasn’t playing against men at a young age. Not sure about Seider
I expect him to be here next year
I'd bet that Jiricek could hold his own in the NHL by 2023 but what's the point? You draft him for his top pair upside not his ability to fill in. And I want him experimenting and pushing the boundaries of his skill, so many young players stop doing that and just try to survive once they get to the NHL.
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Sure. But that’s not to say he’ll be one of them. We’ll have to see how he plays this year.
I hate rushing prospects and especially D prospects. This is a kid that needs to beef up and has dealt with a fairly serious injury. Give him a year back home and then maybe a year in the AHL and finally break into the NHL. I dont care if hes better than current roster players I only care about ensuring Jiricek reaches his maximum potential
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I don't understand why do people, with all the evidence of rushed prospects struggling if not flat out crippling their careers, insist on bringing their prospects to the NHL sooner. Especially for teams that are years away from being competitive anyway.
He should follow the Seider path for sure, their careers up until this point are actually quite similar albeit Seider had more success at men's level by the time of the draft.
He should follow the Seider path for sure, their careers up until this point are actually quite similar albeit Seider had more success at men's level by the time of the draft.
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There’s no clear 1 way that should be determined today.
What if he dominates next season and is top4 ready in 23-24?
How he plays and develops next year should show where he should play in his +2 season.
Heiskanen was dominant in his +1 season and basically was a top pairing Dman in the NHL from day 1
Or maybe his game shows that 2 years elsewhere is better for his development
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I don’t know how long before he’s ready for an NHL role, but IMO he was the best player not named Kent Johnson at the development scrimmage
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Would Heiskanens development have been wrecked if he didnt play in the NHL in year one?
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Heiskanen didn’t play in the NHL in his +1 season
He had a concussion and missed the camp
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Or maybe it's a comprehension issue on your part.
That poster said Heiskanen was dominant in his D+1 season.
Also that Heiskanen wasn't in the NHL in his D+1 season due to the fact that he missed camp.
Guess where Heiskanen dominated in his D+1 season... it was in the league he participated in.
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From a neutral fan’s perspective mind you…
With his size and physicality I would be looking to get him into the NHL no later than his D+1 season.
Even if he is playing on the third pairing and is in and out of the lineup in his rookie season, I think it’s important to get him used to playing at NHL pace, the grind, the speed and physicality of the game.
With his size and physicality I would be looking to get him into the NHL no later than his D+1 season.
Even if he is playing on the third pairing and is in and out of the lineup in his rookie season, I think it’s important to get him used to playing at NHL pace, the grind, the speed and physicality of the game.
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No I didn’t.
I said he dominated his +1 season, not that he played in the NHL.
Read that post again
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I disagree.
Makar, the best defender (and maybe best player) in the league right now was older for his DY and took 2 years before getting to the NHL.
Seider and Hughes (only 1 season) are also good examples. Sanderson and Power may prove to be as well.
There’s no upside in rushing it imo
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That's not how development works. Each person's development is unique to them, every prospect does not get drafted at the same point in their trajectory.
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Jiricek's "physicality" is a myth to a huge excent. He tries to hit guys fairly often but he hasn't been very succesful so far, he often misses his checks and isn't strong enough to outmuscle grown men at the boards. He's a tall lanky kid who needs to grow into his frame and learn how to use his size properly to be more effective phisically. He can definitely become a menacing figure on the ice as he gets older and builds some muscle, but he's not there just yet IMO. Anyway, you want him primarily for his rare combination of size, skill, shiftiness and IQ, not for his physicality.
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Of course. I agree there. Kind of shows my point though, that guys don’t need to be in the NHL to develop to a star level.
And to your point about unique development— Those are 3 very different players and the smallest and least “pro ready” (on paper in a traditional sense) of them in Hughes was the earliest to hit the league.
I think it’s certainly in the cards that Jiricek can play this year or next year and be great, just that there’s less risk in waiting.
I speak on behalf of every Czech hockey fan when I say this:
Please, do not rush our first defenseman in ages who could become more than just a warm body at the NHL level, thanks.
Please, do not rush our first defenseman in ages who could become more than just a warm body at the NHL level, thanks.
I know this is an unpopular opinion here, but I really think the WHL wouldn’t be a bad idea for Jiricek.
My first thought was he has nothing to prove at the junior level after two pro seasons including games for the men’s national team. But all the points discussed above make me think it’d be a good fit. In Czechia, he’d get a bigger role but he’d still be competing for ice time on a team that’s playing to win.
In the WHL, he could be a leader and develop his game with lots of freedom and little pressure. He can get stronger and adjust to the North American style of play on an NHL-style schedule, with 68 games (+ playoffs) including back-to-backs (and sometimes even 3 straight) and NHL-level travel. He’ll likely be the best defenceman in the entire CHL but he’ll get to prove it in what might be the most talented WHL we’ve seen in years, with a combination of high-end 2023 eligibles and NHL-drafted players. He’ll face players like Bedard, Yager, Geekie and Savoie but also fellow top-10 pick Kevin Korchinski in frequent US Division matchups vs. Seattle. Another thing that’s often ignored is the adjustment to life in North America, which often isn’t easy for European players.
Let him have a point-per-game season as the #1 defender in Spokane and throw him into the NHL for 2023-24, when he’s fully adjusted to North America and as confident as ever.
My first thought was he has nothing to prove at the junior level after two pro seasons including games for the men’s national team. But all the points discussed above make me think it’d be a good fit. In Czechia, he’d get a bigger role but he’d still be competing for ice time on a team that’s playing to win.
In the WHL, he could be a leader and develop his game with lots of freedom and little pressure. He can get stronger and adjust to the North American style of play on an NHL-style schedule, with 68 games (+ playoffs) including back-to-backs (and sometimes even 3 straight) and NHL-level travel. He’ll likely be the best defenceman in the entire CHL but he’ll get to prove it in what might be the most talented WHL we’ve seen in years, with a combination of high-end 2023 eligibles and NHL-drafted players. He’ll face players like Bedard, Yager, Geekie and Savoie but also fellow top-10 pick Kevin Korchinski in frequent US Division matchups vs. Seattle. Another thing that’s often ignored is the adjustment to life in North America, which often isn’t easy for European players.
Let him have a point-per-game season as the #1 defender in Spokane and throw him into the NHL for 2023-24, when he’s fully adjusted to North America and as confident as ever.
I hate to stray from my own good judgment, but if Jiricek polishes his game this year and the Jackets are trying to win the next season, then I can see a world where it makes sense for Jiricek to be on the roster in 2023-24.
I see potential for Jiricek to be a phenomenal player from the point position. He's got a great shot, both slapper and wrister, and he's got vision and good small area deception. The bare bones are there for something great. He might eventually be a better PP option than Werenski, if his shot is better and because he's a right shot, which is a huge advantage teeing up Laine R to R.
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David's got a lot to improve on this year so this thought really only applies if he takes a big step. He'll have to stay healthy (no more sticking his knees out!), clean up some of his footwork, continue to get stronger, etc...
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