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RD Adam Fox (2016, 66th, CGY; traded to CAR; traded to NYR)

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I am skeptical that a CHL player and an NCAA player is an apples to apples comparison for retention of rights purposes. I’m not sure that the NHLPA will want this loophole closed but if enough Harvard players go the UFA route a few teams might tale notice.
 
the talk about adam fox and his unwillingness to sign has been such an overblown concept. never once has he even insinuated that he wouldn't play for carolina, yet half the posts in the thread are about him playing yet another year of ncaa hockey when he has clearly defeated that level, pushing his nhl paychecks back another year and a half, and selecting his own destination. where are you getting this information? do you have any source material where fox makes a comment that could be interpreted that way? give me anything you have. because if there's a basis for it, it would be interesting to see what he has to say. it's such an uncommon route for a player to take that we can count the number of times it has happened in the last ten years on one hand. schultz, when there was plenty of documentation about his reticence to sign with anaheim. kevin hayes when he was mad about how the hawks handled the situation with his brother. jimmy vesey who had the rare stock explosion between his junior and senior years and feeling like the organization had basically written him off prior to that. so many of those cases even have friction that extends beyond the simple "i want to play where i want to play" storyline.

does anyone here claiming he won't sign have anything other than their gut feeling? the economics of the situation strongly favor signing a contract as soon as he's available to do so provided his education is complete. he would have to have a very strong conviction to follow through on this plan that was purportedly devised prior to his trade from calgary.
 
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Vagrant said:
the talk about adam fox and his unwillingness to sign has been such an overblown concept. never once has he even insinuated that he wouldn't play for carolina, yet half the posts in the thread are about him playing yet another year of ncaa hockey when he has clearly defeated that level, pushing his nhl paychecks back another year and a half, and selecting his own destination.
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He's not going to come out and say he won't sign. All the guys you mentioned in some form or fashion never commented on their UFA decision until it was abundantly clear it was happening

Where there is smoke, there is fire. He obviously gave Calgary some idea he didn't have plans to stick around, if he didn't, why move him? He's a top 20 prospect in the NHL, and he's lighting up the NCAA like you said. He's the type of prospect you accommodate for. Carolina is in the same boat as Calgary, a stacked right side with a bunch of competition.

He's also come out and said he wants to complete his degree, so why not just wait a couple more months and see what everyone has to offer next summer?

As I've said for a while, I'll believe he signs in Carolina when I see it happen. He says he wants to play in the NHL immediately and the Flames were offering the ability to do so, but he chose not to sign. If he doesn't sign with Carolina after the his season is over, I fully believe he's going UFA
 
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The last we heard from Fox is that he said he never made any statements about his plans. Doesn't mean he will or won't sign with the Canes, just that people are making assumptions that they want, and not basing it off information coming from Fox (from what I can tell).

This was from June.

There are some in Calgary who say the Flames added the 20-year-old defenseman to the trade because they had nothing to lose, that the feeling was the Flames would never sign him. That the former third-round draft pick planned to play out his college eligibility at Harvard and become an unrestricted free agent, able to sign with any team.
Fox, attending the Canes' prospect development camp this week, strongly disagrees with that assumption.

"I've never said anything about my plans," Fox said. "Definitely next year I'm going back to school and will take it day by day.

"For me, there are parts of the game I want to improve on before making that jump (to pro hockey)," Fox said. "Obviously being here this week with the (Canes) coaching staff and management, they can say what I need to improve on (and) going back to school definitely is a big opportunity for me to work on things to get better to make that jump.

"For me, I want to get bigger, faster, stronger. Obviously for me I think the game pretty well. But just the physical attributes and stuff I want to work on. The jump to the next level is against older guys who are big and strong, so that's something I want to work on."
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Could defensive prospect Adam Fox give the Hurricanes the edge in the Calgary trade?
 
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Sucks for the Canes. Such a nice young team, but I don't think they're getting him.
 
Though deep down I always thought this likely to happen, still a bit disappointing when it became "official". Don't blame the kid though. He wasn't drafted by the Canes and is doing what he feels is best for him within the constraints of the CBA.
 
Come on Gorton, bring him home. And by his home, I mean his neighbor.

And he grew up a Rangers fan too.

This is perfectly set up for ultimate heartbreak for the Rangers.
 
While it sucks that He probably won’t sign in Carolina, the canes aren’t losing that much. Yes, the trade looks to favor Calgary but keep in mind that the Hurricanes have a BOATLOAD of Dman. They still have Bean, Fleury and Mckeown who have yet to see ample time in the show(Bean hasn’t played yet in the show)

That’s not including Hamilton, Faulk, Pesce, Slavin, De Haan and Van Riemsdyk. Of those players, TVR/De Haan are the oldest(I believe) at 27

Yeah, Fox could turn out to be a stud 50pt dman yearly but still.

For the canes, only thing I worry about(I’m not even a canes fan) is goaltending. As a wings fan, I know how good and BAD Mrazek can be. Luckily I think Nedeljkovic will be an NHL starter one day.
 
Vagrant said:
the talk about adam fox and his unwillingness to sign has been such an overblown concept. never once has he even insinuated that he wouldn't play for carolina, yet half the posts in the thread are about him playing yet another year of ncaa hockey when he has clearly defeated that level, pushing his nhl paychecks back another year and a half, and selecting his own destination. where are you getting this information? do you have any source material where fox makes a comment that could be interpreted that way? give me anything you have. because if there's a basis for it, it would be interesting to see what he has to say. it's such an uncommon route for a player to take that we can count the number of times it has happened in the last ten years on one hand. schultz, when there was plenty of documentation about his reticence to sign with anaheim. kevin hayes when he was mad about how the hawks handled the situation with his brother. jimmy vesey who had the rare stock explosion between his junior and senior years and feeling like the organization had basically written him off prior to that. so many of those cases even have friction that extends beyond the simple "i want to play where i want to play" storyline.

does anyone here claiming he won't sign have anything other than their gut feeling? the economics of the situation strongly favor signing a contract as soon as he's available to do so provided his education is complete. he would have to have a very strong conviction to follow through on this plan that was purportedly devised prior to his trade from calgary.
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Whoops. That was a lot of typing.
 


Seems somewhat legit. Always had a suspicion it would go this way with Fox, even way before the trade. Kind of seemed a matter of time before he ended up a Ranger. A Harvard degree and then being able to pick where you play is nothing to sneeze at. Sucks for the Canes but their blueline is in good shape with or without him. Glad Treliving cut bait while the cutting was good. Really like the player, was one of my favourites. High hockey IQ and some great puck skills make him fun to watch.

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any legit update?
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