Rasmus Ristolainen: The $5M, 0 percentile defenseman

[bennysflyers16]

Please stop posting his tweets here. I beg of you.

Agree. It is good for mental health to block people on Social media

 

[Rebels57]

Why do you keep posting twitter randos? Who cares? People say stupid shit on twitter all the time, including myself.

He's one of the most vocal of the Flyers Twittertoilet and so his awful opinions do spread like infectious disease and then shape the fanbase narratives out there to some degree.

 

[Striiker]

Twitter is free entertainment. Like going to the zoo, but minus the intelligence of the animals.

Why block someone when you can laugh at them? They have no impact on your mental health unless you let them.

 

[GKJ]

He's one of the most vocal of the Flyers Twittertoilet and so his awful opinions do spread like infectious disease and then shape the fanbase narratives out there to some degree.

I don't see how posting his tweets here isn't doing the same thing. He has 4,000 followers, so I don't see how he 'shapes the fanbase narratives' more than any one person here does.

Twitter is free entertainment. Like going to the zoo, but minus the intelligence of the animals.

Why block someone when you can laugh at them? They have no impact on your mental health unless you let them.

Well, you keep posting the tweets here so he clearly is.

 

[Curufinwe]

What was the "good" the title was referring to?

You take the good
You take the bad
You chase some hits and make me sad
The Risto life, The Risto life

 

[Rebels57]

I don't see how posting his tweets here isn't doing the same thing. He has 4,000 followers, so I don't see how he 'shapes the fanbase narratives' more than any one person here does.



Well, you keep posting the tweets here so he clearly is.

Fair.

 

[Striiker]

Well, you keep posting the tweets here so he clearly is.

Finding a person/tweet funny isn’t the same thing as them having any kind of negative impact on your mental state.

How is this confusing you?

 

[GKJ]

Finding a person/tweet funny isn’t the same thing as them having any kind of negative impact on your mental state.

How is this confusing you?

Seeking out discourse that is stupid on purpose is not healthy. Especially from people who are being stupid on purpose. That's not even a statement about hockey, just information intake in general

 

[Striiker]

Seeking out discourse that is stupid on purpose is not healthy. Especially from people who are being stupid on purpose. That's not even a statement about hockey, just information intake in general

Not healthy? It has literally zero negative impact.

Some people can just laugh at things and that’s the end of it.

 

[usahockey22flyers]

Why are you fine with paying a detrimental player $4 million?

I don't want him. I never did. I want him traded if we can recoup some value. I'd rather have that 15th overall pick any day of the week.

Considering the premium they paid, I just think we're going to get him back here anyway so might as well be for 4M

 

[FLYguy3911]

sunk cost fallacy

 

[FlyguyOX]

NRD says we should here something on him staying/going on Friday/Saturday this week

 

[Crazy Cizikas]

 

[FLYguy3911]

sunk cost fallacy

I was away for the weekend and missed out on the Risto thread fun and I guess as fate would have it that thread disappeared.

I think the basis of this extension can be traced back to the quoted post. I just don't think the organization wanted the optics of selling him for less or letting him walk for nothing. Of course they probably think he is good, which is the bigger issue, but this is also the second deadline in a row that they turned down a potential solid return (see: Chariot), instead opting to give a 5 year deal to a depth player. It's as if they don't even consider the possibility of a player returning once they see the other side. If they really want to be a pseudo-contender next year, you sell off every single one of your expiring contracts and use those assets to build your team for next season. If Ristolainen and Laughton want to sign elsewhere as free agents, so be it. Move on to the next one. The return + the replacement is almost always going to outweigh the extended player.

To the contract itself, it's term to a player that they never tried on the top pair despite having plenty of opportunities to do so with a struggling Provorov. They never used him on the PP until days before the extension after the oddly timed Keith Jones campaigning. He's a 2nd unit PKer and may not even been that if not for Ellis going MIA. They never use him in OT. 5x5 for that?! That's without considering his actual on-ice impacts which are...not good. I think he's more talented than Amac, but these are the underlyings that made that a horrible contract. There's also going to be an inevitable trickle down effect with this contract as Friedman just alluded to in his column. Provorov? Sanheim? I'm all for moving Provorov, but the thought of Ristolainen being the one to finally break the camel's back is truly unbelievable.

And I think the most telling thing with this contract is that Ristolainen, who was getting his first crack at UFA at age 27, having just been traded for a relatively massive return as a rental, took a paycut to re-sign here! He didn't even have confidence in himself to get a better deal on the open market.

 

[Rebels57]

I was away for the weekend and missed out on the Risto thread fun and I guess as fate would have it that thread disappeared.

I think the basis of this extension can be traced back to the quoted post. I just don't think the organization wanted the optics of selling him for less or letting him walk for nothing. Of course they probably think he is good, which is the bigger issue, but this is also the second deadline in a row that they turned down a potential solid return (see: Chariot), instead opting to give a 5 year deal to a depth player. It's as if they don't even consider the possibility of a player returning once they see the other side. If they really want to be a pseudo-contender next year, you sell off every single one of your expiring contracts and use those assets to build your team for next season. If Ristolainen and Laughton want to sign elsewhere as free agents, so be it. Move on to the next one. The return + the replacement is almost always going to outweigh the extended player.

To the contract itself, it's term to a player that they never tried on the top pair despite having plenty of opportunities to do so with a struggling Provorov. They never used him on the PP until days before the extension after the oddly timed Keith Jones campaigning. He's a 2nd unit PKer and may not even been that if not for Ellis going MIA. They never use him in OT. 5x5 for that?! That's without considering his actual on-ice impacts which are...not good. I think he's more talented than Amac, but these are the underlyings that made that a horrible contract. There's also going to be an inevitable trickle down effect with this contract as Friedman just alluded to in his column. Provorov? Sanheim? I'm all for moving Provorov, but the thought of Ristolainen being the one to finally break the camel's back is truly unbelievable.

And I think the most telling thing with this contract is that Ristolainen, who was getting his first crack at UFA at age 27, having just been traded for a relatively massive return as a rental, took a paycut to re-sign here! He didn't even have confidence in himself to get a better deal on the open market.

Tweet this at the Flyers, Bill, and Charlie please.

 

[flyersnorth]

And I think the most telling thing with this contract is that Ristolainen, who was getting his first crack at UFA at age 27, having just been traded for a relatively massive return as a rental, took a paycut to re-sign here! He didn't even have confidence in himself to get a better deal on the open market.

I mean, do you know how difficult it is for a multi-millionaire with no wife and no children and in his mid-20s to just pick up (let's face it, they don't pick up a thing, they have people for that) and move to another city to play a game for $25M dollars?

Have some compassion!

 

[Hanover Fist]

I mean, do you know how difficult it is for a multi-millionaire with no wife and no children and in his mid-20s to just pick up (let's face it, they don't pick up a thing, they have people for that) and move to another city to play a game for $25M dollars?

Have some compassion!

Some people just don’t understand how stressful it is to watch peons handle their shit

 

[FLYguy3911]

Tweet this at the Flyers, Bill, and Charlie please.

I'm slightly intrigued to see the ball washing but I will pass.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

I was away for the weekend and missed out on the Risto thread fun and I guess as fate would have it that thread disappeared.

I think the basis of this extension can be traced back to the quoted post. I just don't think the organization wanted the optics of selling him for less or letting him walk for nothing. Of course they probably think he is good, which is the bigger issue, but this is also the second deadline in a row that they turned down a potential solid return (see: Chariot), instead opting to give a 5 year deal to a depth player. It's as if they don't even consider the possibility of a player returning once they see the other side. If they really want to be a pseudo-contender next year, you sell off every single one of your expiring contracts and use those assets to build your team for next season. If Ristolainen and Laughton want to sign elsewhere as free agents, so be it. Move on to the next one. The return + the replacement is almost always going to outweigh the extended player.

To the contract itself, it's term to a player that they never tried on the top pair despite having plenty of opportunities to do so with a struggling Provorov. They never used him on the PP until days before the extension after the oddly timed Keith Jones campaigning. He's a 2nd unit PKer and may not even been that if not for Ellis going MIA. They never use him in OT. 5x5 for that?! That's without considering his actual on-ice impacts which are...not good. I think he's more talented than Amac, but these are the underlyings that made that a horrible contract. There's also going to be an inevitable trickle down effect with this contract as Friedman just alluded to in his column. Provorov? Sanheim? I'm all for moving Provorov, but the thought of Ristolainen being the one to finally break the camel's back is truly unbelievable.

And I think the most telling thing with this contract is that Ristolainen, who was getting his first crack at UFA at age 27, having just been traded for a relatively massive return as a rental, took a paycut to re-sign here! He didn't even have confidence in himself to get a better deal on the open market.

because there was no open market for him.. him n his agent knew it...

 

[flyersnorth]

Some people just don’t understand how stressful it is to watch peons handle their shit

"I was thinking about all the options,'' he admitted. "Moving from Buffalo to here, it was kind of a hassle. I like it here so I didn't need to go looking for something else for no reason. It was a pretty easy decision for me.''

 

[pit]

"I was thinking about all the options,'' he admitted. "Moving from Buffalo to here, it was kind of a hassle. I like it here so I didn't need to go looking for something else for no reason. It was a pretty easy decision for me.''

He continued "I have about 18 different goatee combs. Do you know how long it takes to put them into their holders and then organize alphabetically by colour? No way was I going to move again, especially since no other NHL team was likely to sign me and I'd be heading back to Europe."

 

[flyersnorth]

Oh how I wish my quote were a joke, but it's all too real.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

I was away for the weekend and missed out on the Risto thread fun and I guess as fate would have it that thread disappeared.

I think the basis of this extension can be traced back to the quoted post. I just don't think the organization wanted the optics of selling him for less or letting him walk for nothing. Of course they probably think he is good, which is the bigger issue, but this is also the second deadline in a row that they turned down a potential solid return (see: Chariot), instead opting to give a 5 year deal to a depth player. It's as if they don't even consider the possibility of a player returning once they see the other side. If they really want to be a pseudo-contender next year, you sell off every single one of your expiring contracts and use those assets to build your team for next season. If Ristolainen and Laughton want to sign elsewhere as free agents, so be it. Move on to the next one. The return + the replacement is almost always going to outweigh the extended player.

To the contract itself, it's term to a player that they never tried on the top pair despite having plenty of opportunities to do so with a struggling Provorov. They never used him on the PP until days before the extension after the oddly timed Keith Jones campaigning. He's a 2nd unit PKer and may not even been that if not for Ellis going MIA. They never use him in OT. 5x5 for that?! That's without considering his actual on-ice impacts which are...not good. I think he's more talented than Amac, but these are the underlyings that made that a horrible contract. There's also going to be an inevitable trickle down effect with this contract as Friedman just alluded to in his column. Provorov? Sanheim? I'm all for moving Provorov, but the thought of Ristolainen being the one to finally break the camel's back is truly unbelievable.

And I think the most telling thing with this contract is that Ristolainen, who was getting his first crack at UFA at age 27, having just been traded for a relatively massive return as a rental, took a paycut to re-sign here! He didn't even have confidence in himself to get a better deal on the open market.

I see someone doesn't want us to be hard to play against shake my head.

 

[Curufinwe]

He's injured yet again... copying this in from the game GDT for posterity:
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He missed 16 games in his first of six seasons in Philly from four separate injuries. With him turning 28 this month and the stupid way he plays, I would guess he plays fewer than 300 games on his horrible five year extension.

He missed the first two games of 21-22.

He missed two games on 1/13/22 and 1/15/22.

He missed three games on 2/12/22, 2/15/22 and 2/17/22.

And he missed the last last nine games of 21-22.

 

[Embiid]

Is there ever any good news about the Flyers....heck I barely remember they exist. This forum is the only painful reminder...