Larry Brooks: Rangers will be selling
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GeorgeKaplan
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Because the head coach determines how players are used and how they should play, and he's been terrible at it for the past 3 years.
Tortorella for all of his faults seemed like he was getting more than the sum of his rosters parts for most of his time here, then when he wasn't, he was fired.
AV has been getting drastically less than what this roster seems capable of, and he's still here
If they miss playoffs do ticket prices remain flat?
I think Dallas is a good match. The west is wide open. Miro Heiskanen plus Julius Honka and a 2019 1st for Mac and Nash.
I think Dallas is a good match. The west is wide open. Miro Heiskanen plus Julius Honka and a 2019 1st for Mac and Nash.
The coach is the least of their problems. Total nonsense. If they had better players then Holland and Carey and Nieves and Holden they’d be winning. It’s personnel.
It's been 5 or 6 years of teams that "just need some tweaking" with a new system, coach, PPQB, right-handed puck mover, size, speed, sniper, grit, sandpaper, etc, etc, etc, and I welcome a new strategy. The team has had a remarkable amount of success by throwing flawed rosters out in front of Lundqvist, but it's time to face the music: He's showing some chinks in the armor and they need to put a better product in front of him if they're going to have a real shot at winning a cup before he hangs up his skates. They have some crap contracts on the blue line and will need young players on cheap deals to fill major holes, but few of those players exist in the system as it stands today.
I'm going to see how things start to play out before I start assuming the team is going to f*** it up. Despite of what people make think of Gorton's performance to date, this is new territory and I would expect a new mentality will come along with that. He was able to build a foundation for the Bruins with a couple key trades, a great draft, and smart UFA signings. He laid the groundwork for a team with depth, speed, size, and grit. Will he do the same here, or will it be a new strategy? It's going to be interesting to watch that's for sure.
I'm also a little unsure as to what in that article gives people the impression that AV is a lock to be here moving forward.
I'm going to see how things start to play out before I start assuming the team is going to f*** it up. Despite of what people make think of Gorton's performance to date, this is new territory and I would expect a new mentality will come along with that. He was able to build a foundation for the Bruins with a couple key trades, a great draft, and smart UFA signings. He laid the groundwork for a team with depth, speed, size, and grit. Will he do the same here, or will it be a new strategy? It's going to be interesting to watch that's for sure.
I'm also a little unsure as to what in that article gives people the impression that AV is a lock to be here moving forward.
Tawnos
A guy with a bass
I think the Rangers have overachieved every season AV has been here until this one. I think he’s run his course.
Honestly, I’m ready for the entire team to move into the next phase. Trade everyone. Fire the coach. I’m not talking about tanking. I’m talking about accelerating the transition.
When I worked in a highly corporate environment, something I always excelled at was skipping to the end of the conversation. If we already know where we will end up, let’s just go there now. That’s what I’m talking about here.
IDK anything about him but we should've just kept Raanta until these kids are ready IMO.
#RidiculousOverPayment
Can't wait until JG gets bent over in the next deal..SMH
Samuel Culper III
Mr. Woodhull...
Jake Allen is a pretty decent goaltender. I’m sure a lot of people would argue he’s superior to Raanta. If Hank WANTED to go try and win the Cup and we got Allen back as our stop gap between Hank and Shesty, Allen would certainly win us some games and keep us competitive enough to be an enjoyable hockey team (assuming we were assembling an good roster with all the potential future moves).
PlamsUnlimited
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Sadly blowing it up would make the most sense and be best for our shot at another cuprun in the medium future.
GeorgeKaplan
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Yeah, Allen is a for sure starter in the league, could still become a really good starter too. He could reasonably stay the starter if Shesty doesn't end up panning out
DanielBrassard
It's all so tiresome
It's just that easy huh, except neither of those trades are likely to happen, especially Zucc+garbage for Trouba. If the Rangers feel trading McDonagh and Zucc is the right direction, fine. But the idea that this rebuild is going to be quick is just silly to me. It's going to be rough.
NoQuitInNewMexico
it's okay cause it's all just the way it should be
I think if McDonagh leaves (not saying he should, I'd lean toward no) that's the cue that this will be a long-term thing, and we'll try to retain salary to find a home for Hank so he can win.
Hank just isn't movable (even at 4.5) if his numbers dip, so since his stock is high now this might be a very busy, heartwrenching offseason
Hank just isn't movable (even at 4.5) if his numbers dip, so since his stock is high now this might be a very busy, heartwrenching offseason
Allen is a fantastic keeper. The issue with him is once his confidence slips, he's an absolute trainwreck and it can take months for him to recover.
I'm sure that the team has spoken with Lundqvist if this is actually on the table and I assume he'll likely stick it out for a couple more years to see how things play out. If we're heading into the summer of 2020 and the team is struggling to gain traction, then I could see him saying he'd like to explore some options to win a cup. I'd imagine the organization would do whatever they could to accommodate him at that point.
Samuel Culper III
Mr. Woodhull...
It'll be interesting to see how it plays out. I actually thought about that scenario when the rumor that St. Louis had asked about price came up. I can't see teams being hot on that contract, but next to Price, Hank's deal looks like a bargain. If the Rangers ate some cap on it, it'd be an interesting situation for sure.
I’m fine with this. He’s easrnrd the right to decide his own future. But trading him in 2020 at the age of 38 brings you back nothing. Right now with the season he’s having you’d get quite the haul
haveandare
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IMO Hank is the only player we have who should be able to dictate himself whether he stays or goes.
Samuel Culper III
Mr. Woodhull...
This is probably true but I’m already satisfied that it sounds like management is going to do the right thing and sell our UFAs and explore moving guys who are due big raises soon and start reshaping this roster. With Hank I am willing to let him dictate the terms. If he wants to stick it out I am ecstatic to have him. He can retire a Ranger. If he wants to go win I would have no negativity towards him and want to honor his request, even if we had to eat cap. If he wants to wait and see and decides he wants to move later on but we’re not able to get much return for him at that point, so be it. He has earned it.
Samuel Culper III
Mr. Woodhull...
eco's bones
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I agree. He's 35 years old with 3 years after this one at an $8.5 mil cap hit. Good teams also have good goaltending and most teams wouldn't be able to find the cap space for him as well and then it would cost a lot to get him in picks and players.....and for a 35 year old making a massive amount of money I just don't see that flying. We'll add that he has a full NMC and could nix any deal that could be made. To me he's not marketable at least until his last contracted season and depending on whether he's still playing at top form (or close to it) then.
If he's solid, can't miss future player then why would they give him up for a 35 yr old goalie?
They aren't winning this year..
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