Confirmed with Link: Rangers sign Dan Boyle - 2 yrs / $9M ($4.5AAV)

[SupersonicMonkey*]

Hell, even the PK scored a couple short handed goals

Ironically, partly a direct result of the work put forth by another player sur-named Boyle.

 

[trilobyte]

Just to be clear, because I see a lot of disagreement stemming from this idea of a Contender vs. a Bubble team, weren't we a bubble team this year? Is it really out the question that we could be both?

Depends on who you are asking. Many panels of experts (TSN is a good example of guys that really don't know much) did not even place the Rangers on the list of teams that could go deep.

So, in fact, many 'experts' did not even consider the Stanley Cup Final contestant New York Rangers to be even a bubble team. It goes to show how those guys are really not as in touch with things as they pretend to be (actually, I think they know that they don't know, they are just good at talking).

 

[Zil]

And, besides, we have exactly two large, long-term contracts on the books. Nash and Lundqvist.

Girardi doesn't have a big long-term contract? You could've fooled me.

PLAYERS CHOOSE where they want to go and sign.. so we should resign benny pool whos 26-27 been on 6 different teams already to a 5 year contract and $20m?????? with never hitting 20gs or even eclipsing 40pts in their career???????

I would not have re-signed Pouliot at those numbers, but that doesn't mean he's not a huge loss. He was a major contributor both in terms of points and in terms of driving possession.

Stralman is a dman that plays SAFEEEE.. simple game and has a partner that if he didnt get hurt the past few years would be a perennial all-star player.. noway i give that kind of money to him..

Stralman is fantastic possession player. We scored goals at a higher rate with him on the ice than we did with him off the ice.

Boyle can play and is still a top 4 dman.. im glad for once slats didn't open a blank check today on complimentary players.. if we lost mcd staal or g then i would loose it not stralman..

Boyle is not what he once was. Players tend to get worse at age 38, not better.

Boyle wanted to go to tbl bc his wife is from there and he wanted a different role.. give it up its FA for a reason.. its a mutual decision to sign not just the team..

According to Gross, the Rangers made minimal contact with Boyle's representatives. They didn't really try to re-sign him.

miller wouldve been in the nhl this year if we didnt have the depth we had.. give him the opportunity let him flourish.. good teams have churn, thats why theres a cap in place.. so players move on.. dont say LAK or Chi they've had their core locked up for years now.. wait till Kopitars next deal or Kane/Toews.. those teams will be blown up eventually and loose the depth..

Miller played 30 NHL games this year and did very, very little in those games. It'd be great if he turns into a solid contributor, but you can't expect it to happen with no backup plan.

 

[Tawnos]

Girardi doesn't have a big long-term contract? You could've fooled me.

$5.5m is a medium sized contract in today's NHL. 8% of the Cap is not a large chunk.

 

[Doctyl]

Stralman was good but he was not the reason we were a cup contender. Let's not act like we just let Brian Leetch walk

 

[Zil]

$5.5m is a medium sized contract in today's NHL. 8% of the Cap is not a large chunk.

When you combine the term of six years with the cap hit it qualifies as a major contract. It'd be a very difficult contract to shed if we needed the space in a few years.

Stralman was good but he was not the reason we were a cup contender. Let's not act like we just let Brian Leetch walk

He was our second best defenseman in a season when we made the Stanley Cup Final. I'd say he was pretty damn important.

 

[Doctyl]

When you combine the term of six years with the cap hit it qualifies as a major contract. It'd be a very difficult contract to shed if we needed the space in a few years.



He was our second best defenseman in a season when we made the Stanley Cup Final. I'd say he was pretty damn important.

Sure he was important but not the reason. Hank MSL Hags McD Brass Zucc and Stepan all had equal or bigger roles this playoffs. Moore and Boyle could be argued equal to Stralman as well IMO.

 

[SupersonicMonkey*]

He was our second best defenseman in a season when we made the Stanley Cup Final. I'd say he was pretty damn important.

Agree.

And when McDonagh wasn't himself in the first round and as he began to settle in in the second round, Stralman was probably our best defenseman in both rounds.

And he was arguably our best defenseman last year's playoffs.

And in the 11-12 run to the Conference Final.

Stralman was consistently one of our most important players all three seasons he was here.

 

[Zil]

Sure he was important but not the reason. Hank MSL Hags McD Brass Zucc and Stepan all had equal or bigger roles this playoffs. Moore and Boyle could be argued equal to Stralman as well IMO.

He was our second best defenseman. He was on the ice for over 20 minutes a night. He was easily one of our most important players. Just because you evaluate players solely by point totals doesn't negate that fact.

 

[SupersonicMonkey*]

Sure he was important but not the reason. Hank MSL Hags McD Brass Zucc and Stepan all had equal or bigger roles this playoffs. Moore and Boyle could be argued equal to Stralman as well IMO.

Stralman logged more minutes than those guys.

 

[GarretJoseph*]

4th best defenseman on the roster IMO. Dude was picked up for peanuts via the Debbies. He was a product of his environment. Just because you end up on Crosby's wing or Tavares wing and Gretzky's wing and end up potting a ton of goals doesn't mean your a better player or a great goal scorer. The dude had Staal, McD and Girardi around him and on the team not to mention Hanks.

Easily replaceable. Not worried one bit.

 

[SupersonicMonkey*]

4th best defenseman on the roster IMO. Dude was picked up for peanuts via the Debbies. He was a product of his environment. Just because you end up on Crosby's wing or Tavares wing and Gretzky's wing and end up potting a ton of goals doesn't mean your a better player or a great goal scorer. The dude had Staal, McD and Girardi around him and on the team not to mention Hanks.

Easily replaceable. Not worried one bit.

Very untrue, and where he came from has no baring on what he is. Girardi was undrafted. Lundqvist was a 7th round pick.

I'll just leave it at that. Because i don't want to argue. But this notion is false and has to stop. Players' paths are all different.

 

[stan the caddy]

4th best defenseman on the roster IMO. Dude was picked up for peanuts via the Debbies. He was a product of his environment. Just because you end up on Crosby's wing or Tavares wing and Gretzky's wing and end up potting a ton of goals doesn't mean your a better player or a great goal scorer. The dude had Staal, McD and Girardi around him and on the team not to mention Hanks.

Easily replaceable. Not worried one bit.

If he's easily replaceable so are Girardi and Staal. Factor in Girardi playing with McDonagh all year and his serious struggles early on in the season and the playoffs and I'd say that Stralman was a better defender than him.

 

[darko]

I'm ok with this. 2 year term is fine. Money is fine.

 

[Baby Punisher]

He was our second best defenseman. He was on the ice for over 20 minutes a night. He was easily one of our most important players. Just because you evaluate players solely by point totals doesn't negate that fact.

Well he is gone now and has been replaced, so he isn't coming back. You need to be strong and move on.

 

[Zil]

Well he is gone now and has been replaced, so he isn't coming back. You need to be strong and move on.

It's not my problem. It's the Rangers' problem. They don't seem to truly understand what made them successful last year and that doesn't bode well for their chances of building a Cup winner. I guess you really want that picture in your avatar to be the defining image of Hank's career.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

It should be noted that Boyle won't be relied on here as heavily as he was in San Jose. Limiting his ES minutes could help bring his production back up to 40+ points.

 

[Zil]

It should be noted that Boyle won't be relied on here as heavily as he was in San Jose. Limiting his ES minutes could help bring his production back up to 40+ points.

More even strength time for Klein. Hip hip hooray.

 

[StepansLabyrinth]

More even strength time for Klein. Hip hip hooray.

I really doubt you watch the Rangers all that often if you're leading the Anti-Klein parade while simultaneously praising Stralman as the Rangers best D-Man. Klein is an extremely stable defenseman, you never hear otherwise from people who watch every game.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

More even strength time for Klein. Hip hip hooray.

I think they'll just bump up McD, Staal, and G's ES time a bit. I could see McDonagh logging 26-28 minutes next year. He needs to play more than he did this year, IMO.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

I really doubt you watch the Rangers all that often if you're leading the Anti-Klein parade while simultaneously praising Stralman as the Rangers best D-Man. Klein is an extremely stable defenseman, you never hear otherwise from people who watch every game.

He's okay. Not nearly as stable as Stralman.

 

[StepansLabyrinth]

He's okay. Not nearly as stable as Stralman.

Which is why he was on the third pairing and Stralman was on the second. Still, the turn around in John Moore's play going from MDZ to Klein was obvious to this entire board as it happened. I'm not saying that Klein was better than Stralman, because he's not, but he's still a great third pairing defenseman and probably a 2nd pairing defenseman on at least half the teams in the league (because of his RH status).

It's possible to both Stralman and Klein to be good players. Neither is infallible.

 

[BlueshirtBlitz]

I really doubt you watch the Rangers all that often if you're leading the Anti-Klein parade while simultaneously praising Stralman as the Rangers best D-Man. Klein is an extremely stable defenseman, you never hear otherwise from people who watch every game.

I watch every game (well, mostly every game) and think Klein is overrated.

 

[StepansLabyrinth]

I watch every game (well, mostly every game) and think Klein is overrated.

Overrated from what? He's a solid defensive d-man with a physical presence and I've only seen him described as such. Basically a Dan Girardi-lite, more than capable enough as a third pairing D-Man.

And I don't mean to turn this into a bragging contest about who watches more, nor do I think watching every game like you and I is validation for personal opinion. I'm sure someone like Wayne Gretzky could pick more up in a single game than anyone here would in a season. I'm just saying that Klein is rarely out of position defensively and has really helped stabilize a third pairing that was heart attack inducing last season with MDZ/Moore. Earlier, someone here said that we were better with MDZ, which is just laughable.

Klein also has nothing to do with our decision regarding Stralman.

 

[BearishRiggs]

I think if we were going to resign Stralsy, it wouldn't be at 4.5. More like 5+. You have to factor in not just taxes, but cost of living in the city as well. Dude has 4 kids, doesn't he? He needed more guaranteed money, and the cap hit would have needed to reflect that.

Would you guys be comfortable with Stralman in the 4.8-5 x 5 range? Really, honestly comfortable?