Amazing Kreiderman
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Must be Skjei. Everytime I write/type his name, it makes me think of the way we should pronounce it and my mind immediately goes to that German woman from Game of Thrones.
Confirmed with Link: Rangers sign Dan Boyle - 2 yrs / $9M ($4.5AAV)
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Must be Skjei. Everytime I write/type his name, it makes me think of the way we should pronounce it and my mind immediately goes to that German woman from Game of Thrones.
Crease
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Stralman was never coming back. He wanted a term that would give his family stability and security. Meanwhile, the Rangers have a couple of right-handed prospects who will be ready to take on third-pair duty in a year or so. Couple this with the fact that the Rangers needed to fill a gap at the top of the PP and the decision to give Boyle a 2-year deal instead of giving Stralman a 5-year deal makes complete sense.
Don't get some of the hate towards this move. He adds offense from the blueline, replaces Richie as PP QB, and adds a shot from the point that NYR has been missing. Is he old and probably declining? Sure, could be. But it isn't like he's being paid $6-7 mil per like Richie was or like even he was last season. Guy took less term/$ to come to NY, so it isn't like Sather got him by throwing $$$ at him. Guy wants another shot at a cup. I will agree that compared to Stralman, I don't think his defensive game will be up to snuff, but there's hope the offense helps make up for that. And playing him with a solid defender like Staal could help some compared to his pairing options in SJS.
I haven't read the whole thread, so sorry if this has already been said: All of this is not to mention considering other d-men on the team and waiting in the wings. If you sign Stralman instead of Boyle, you get a player for 5+ rather than 2 years. And you make it somewhat tough to keep Staal. Personally, I'd take Staal over Stralman. Then there are the kids. Having Boyle on a 2 yr contract vs Stralman on a 5 yr gives guys like McIlrath and Skjei the time to develop and ease their ways into the lineup. Better than signing Stralman, struggling to sign Staal, and if successful at signing both -- blocking the young, cheaper guys from making the lineup.
I haven't read the whole thread, so sorry if this has already been said: All of this is not to mention considering other d-men on the team and waiting in the wings. If you sign Stralman instead of Boyle, you get a player for 5+ rather than 2 years. And you make it somewhat tough to keep Staal. Personally, I'd take Staal over Stralman. Then there are the kids. Having Boyle on a 2 yr contract vs Stralman on a 5 yr gives guys like McIlrath and Skjei the time to develop and ease their ways into the lineup. Better than signing Stralman, struggling to sign Staal, and if successful at signing both -- blocking the young, cheaper guys from making the lineup.
I think Boyle will be fine as long as he just shoots the damn puck when he gets a decent pass to do so.
Bluenote13
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Petr Zamorsky might be that eventual Stralman replacement in their eyes.
Almost the same size, RH shot, both started their NHL careers at 21-22 yrs old after playing in Europe. Stralman had 22 points in 53 games in Sweden the year before he came over, Zamorsky had 18 points in 44 games in the Czech league.
Almost the same size, RH shot, both started their NHL careers at 21-22 yrs old after playing in Europe. Stralman had 22 points in 53 games in Sweden the year before he came over, Zamorsky had 18 points in 44 games in the Czech league.
Real good post, and I agree with you that we will see a sharper Boyle this coming season.
Zamorsky started his NHL career?
He has at least two more years before he even competes for a spot on an NHL lineup. He will be in the Finnish league in 14-15, hopefully Hartford in 15-16, and then maybe he will be good enough to play in the NHL.
He signed a contract to play in Finland.
I posted a link to a generator that showed year by year how much contract would have been worth previous years based on portion of the cap.
Many contracts aren't that expensive. Hank signed a contract that is significantly cheaper than the contracts we signed Drury and Gomez to. Significantly. Portion of the cap is all that mattes in a cap world. How many "gets" how cheap contract Hank signed? Many acted like he really got paid...
And it's the same with these FA contracts. 4.5m is the new 3. The cap has gone from 38m to 69m, and could hit 77m next year (some have speculated on 80m, but that seems high). Like we signed Shanahan to 4m when the cap was 42m, that is like 6.9m today. You know, we have Matt Cullen 3m and someone today is giving Bolland 5.5m or whatever.
The contracts aren't more expensive.
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Yet Gomez at 7.35M and Drury at 7.05M would still rank as the 13th and 18th highest in the NHL today respectively many years after.
It's not so much the percentage of cap space, it's the idea that the cap rising is going to some day make those contracts look like bargains. As we have seen that just does not happen very often.
Lundqvist is the highest cap hit goalie by 1.5M, if the teams who are the direct peers and competition to the Rangers are finding cheaper ways to get the same win/lose results out of their players, cap percentage does not really factor in as they are spending a lesser percentage to get similar results.
Nash is similar, if the Rangers are dedicating a percentage of their cap to him and one of their competitors is getting the same or better results by spending a lesser percentage to a similar player who is providing the same or better results, it really does not matter what percentage Nash is getting and if that percentage is in line with what the cap has done.
KingWantsCup
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I was very against the prospect of signing Boyle, but alas, I must say it was a fair deal at least (and I consider myself quite the critic).
You are comparing the Blue Jackets from those years to the Sharks that just finished the season with 111 points?
The difference between the Columbus Blue Jackets in those years, and the San Jose Sharks of 13-14 is huge.
There is no comparison.
Sharks fans unanimously agree that Boyle is a shell of himself and on the decline.
I hope he isn't, but the chances of an entire fan base being wrong is slim.
Boyle scored goals on a stacked offensive Sharks team.
Stralman can shut down the opposition's top offensive players.
If Boyle doesn't score the goals, then what is he doing?
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Raspewtin
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Wrong.
He signed that contract, but used his out-clause to sign with the Rangers.
He will be in NA next year.
Good for him.
Not changing the fact he won't have a shot for at least two years, unless Klein or Boyle are going anywhere.
Zil
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Klein will get flipped for a pick if a kid forces his way into the picture.
By the way when i say good for him, it's not sarcastic. Literally, good for him. It's the smart decision to come play in North America.
But i don't think it increases his chances for this and next season.
If Klein gets moved the play in our end will dip.
I don't think he would get his chance until Boyle's contract expires, and at that point he will still be 23. Good age. He will have two years of NA Pro development under his belt.
But i don't think it increases his chances for this and next season.
If Klein gets moved the play in our end will dip.
I don't think he would get his chance until Boyle's contract expires, and at that point he will still be 23. Good age. He will have two years of NA Pro development under his belt.
Zil
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I'm not singling out Zamorsky. If any kid on the right side forces his way in, then Klein will get flipped. It could very well happen mid-season. Klein's nothing special.
jerseyjinx94
I jinx players.
I agree, if Allen or McIlrath get a look because of injuries, and they excel, I think Klein gets flipped to open up a few million.
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Hunter Gathers
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His contract is drool worthy. I think Klein has a fair bit of value if and when we move him.
Well, i agree that Klein isn't a core piece. I am worried that with Boyle and Moore, if we add another guy not known for his defensive play, we could see some bad play in our own end. Something teams will exploit. Get the matchups away from McDonagh and Girardi.
Klein is at least steady enough in his own end.
If they are looking to contend this season, then Klein is important now that Stralman is gone.
If they feel later in the season that it isn't our year and decide to add more youth, then Klein could be moved.
