Confirmed with Link: Rangers Sign Brendan Smith (4 years x $4.35M)

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I think it might be in the Team's interest NOT to re-sign / extend until after the expansion draft, no?
I think moreso in Smith's interest. If Smith is used to shield Fast/Lindberg from Vegas, I don't think the Rangers would be too broken up about it.
 
I think moreso in Smith's interest. If Smith is used to shield Fast/Lindberg from Vegas, I don't think the Rangers would be too broken up about it.

Well, from his standpoint he might not want to end up in Vegas. And I really don't know the hockey calendar for when the draft is in relation to free agency, but if FA's cannot sign until after the expansion draft, Brendan doesn't want to play in Vegas, and he can't be guaranteed protection, it might be in his interest to also wait, and wait until the dust settles in Vegas, just as there is no reason for the Rangers to risk losing him.

He has said he wants to win, and I am sure that doesn't mean being on an expansion team right after your UFA window...
 
Well, from his standpoint he might not want to end up in Vegas. And I really don't know the hockey calendar for when the draft is in relation to free agency, but if FA's cannot sign until after the expansion draft, Brendan doesn't want to play in Vegas, and he can't be guaranteed protection, it might be in his interest to also wait, and wait until the dust settles in Vegas, just as there is no reason for the Rangers to risk losing him.

He has said he wants to win, and I am sure that doesn't mean being on an expansion team right after your UFA window...
Yep. My point was that he would be motivated to wait than the Rangers.
 
Brendan Smith has changed the dynamic of this team and defense especially. He gave this team some balls while being able to play hockey. Size and grit. Can play the left and right side.

He shouldnt be the one used to "shield" Fast/Lindberg.

He needs to be re-signed
 
Brendan Smith has changed the dynamic of this team and defense especially. He gave this team some balls while being able to play hockey. Size and grit. Can play the left and right side.

He shouldnt be the one used to "shield" Fast/Lindberg.

He needs to be re-signed

But, at the moment, he doesn't have to be protected. Unless you can get either Staal or Girardi to waive their respective NMCs, they have to be protected. As long as Smith remains a UFA, he's available to be signed on July 1. Vegas could pick him, but, unless they intend to send him to a team that he will sign a deal with before July 1, there's little risk leaving him unprotected. If you sign him and cannot get Staal or Girardi to waive, you can't protect him.
 
Brendan Smith has changed the dynamic of this team and defense especially. He gave this team some balls while being able to play hockey. Size and grit. Can play the left and right side.

He shouldnt be the one used to "shield" Fast/Lindberg.

He needs to be re-signed

But, at the moment, he doesn't have to be protected. Unless you can get either Staal or Girardi to waive their respective NMCs, they have to be protected. As long as Smith remains a UFA, he's available to be signed on July 1. Vegas could pick him, but, unless they intend to send him to a team that he will sign a deal with before July 1, there's little risk leaving him unprotected. If you sign him and cannot get Staal or Girardi to waive, you can't protect him.

I'm fairly certain that he has been told (or will be) that we want to resign him and that we'd be making it worth his while. Wink wink
 
I'm fairly certain that he has been told (or will be) that we want to resign him and that we'd be making it worth his while. Wink wink

That's what I would also think had happened. He's with a perennial playoff contender, with two of his former college teammates in an organization known to treat it's players very well. Probably not a hard sell to keep him here.
 
That's what I would also think had happened. He's with a perennial playoff contender, with two of his former college teammates in an organization known to treat it's players very well. Probably not a hard sell to keep him here.

Someone more familiar might be able to correct me, but it isn't circumvention when hes a UFA if we said "Hey, we just can't protect you in the ED... we will sign you right after" and maybe terms are already agreed to at that time.
 
Someone more familiar might be able to correct me, but it isn't circumvention when hes a UFA if we said "Hey, we just can't protect you in the ED... we will sign you right after" and maybe terms are already agreed to at that time.

stuff like that is usually kept hush hush. Rangers don't "have" to sign him. They can just come out and tell Smith "we strongly intend on resigning you"
 
Someone more familiar might be able to correct me, but it isn't circumvention when hes a UFA if we said "Hey, we just can't protect you in the ED... we will sign you right after" and maybe terms are already agreed to at that time.

No. How can it be? It's part of the negotiations. Right now the NYR have exclusivity in resigning him, and are not breaking any rules by stating, "We cannot protect you if we resign you now."

Besides, didn't the Rangers take advantage of this situation once before with Richter?
 
Vegas can claim pending UFAs. They will have time to negotiate with players before the expansion draft.

FYI: Somehow, the abbreviation ED reminds me erectile dysfunction. Thanks Cyalis commercials!
 
No. How can it be? It's part of the negotiations. Right now the NYR have exclusivity in resigning him, and are not breaking any rules by stating, "We cannot protect you if we resign you now."

Besides, didn't the Rangers take advantage of this situation once before with Richter?
Nashville claimed Richter back when you got compensation for losing free agents. So the Nashville got a 2nd round pick for the Rangers stealing their player away from them.
 
Nashville claimed Richter back when you got compensation for losing free agents. So the Nashville got a 2nd round pick for the Rangers stealing their player away from them.

Didn't the same thing happen with Messier?

Traded his rights to San Jose for a 4th, then we signed him again. Not sure if we had to give them a pick back for compensation.
 
Didn't the same thing happen with Messier?

Traded his rights to San Jose for a 4th, then we signed him again. Not sure if we had to give them a pick back for compensation.
Yeah, and Leetch was traded to Edmonton for Markkanen. The pick was just added to the second round, Rangers didn't have to give up anything. I think they traded Richter to Calgary once too.
 
Didn't the same thing happen with Messier?

Traded his rights to San Jose for a 4th, then we signed him again. Not sure if we had to give them a pick back for compensation.

Wasn't there some kinda weird loophole where they get compensation from losing him and in the end we get a free pick for nothing...
 
Raanta's time with the Rangers:

55 Games. 2.25 GAA .921 SVG

Season before that in CHI

14 Games. 1.89 GAA .936 SVG

Those are starter numbers. Benny's coaching, three seasons of track record to go on.

How many other goalies are better than him that will get exposed?

I bet Vegas takes at least 5 goalies... more likely 7, and then swap a bunch for assets to teams that need them.

Smart play for the Rangers would be to trade Raanta for 2 2nds, and lose another player.
 
Wasn't there some kinda weird loophole where they get compensation from losing him and in the end we get a free pick for nothing...
They got the free pick. We got whatever they gave us. NHL would give compensatory picks to teams when they lost players as free agents. I think you had to be under a certain payroll threshold. Either way, it made sense to trade the rights to players you intended to re-sign before June 30.
 
Wasn't there some kinda weird loophole where they get compensation from losing him and in the end we get a free pick for nothing...

Yeah. That 4th ended up being Callahan for Messier I think.

SJ ended up getting a higher pick than the one they traded.

Slats abused this loophole. You talk about a guy not giving a flying **** about his wink wink nudge nudge deal out there... that stuff was hilarious to me. Ballsy.
 
Wasn't there some kinda weird loophole where they get compensation from losing him and in the end we get a free pick for nothing...

Here's the story, as far as I can remember:

- Messier is a pending UFA
- Rangers trade his rights to San Jose for a 4th round pick
- Messier doesn't sign with San Jose, and they get a compensatory 2nd round pick
- Rangers sign Messier

Rangers end up with a "free" 4th round pick
Sharks turn a 4th rounder into a 2nd rounder
 
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