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nyr2k2 said:
I hesitate at this point to say who is better, but they're definitely in the same tier, the same type of prospect. Potential upside, question marks about their game and how it will translate--skating for Gettinger, size (primarily) for Ronning. If it works out for Gettinger, he could be a nice third line guy with size, physical ability and some scoring potential.
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Yeah, I’m not really into ranking prospects anyway. It’s enough to put them on the same basic level.

It’d be nice to develop more of our own bottom-6 guys for a change.
 
Tawnos said:
Yeah, I’m not really into ranking prospects anyway. It’s enough to put them on the same basic level.

It’d be nice to develop more of our own bottom-6 guys for a change.
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Always had a problem with this statement (more like pet peeve). To me bottom 6ers are those who didn’t pan out as top 6ers but still were able to find a role to contribute and be useful to a team.
 
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kovazub94 said:
Always had a problem with this statement (more like pet peeve). To me bottom 6ers are those who didn’t pan out as top 6ers but still were able to find a role to contribute and be useful to a team.
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That’s BS. Not every player even has the skill set to be a top-6 player.

Carl Hagelin, for example, was a player who was NEVER going to be a top-6 player with his skill set, but developed into a fantastic 3rd liner.
 
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If a single one of our prospects from rank 10 onwards last season makes the NHL full time in any capacity, I'll consider us to have beat the odds.

10. RW Ty Ronning
11. C Morgan Barron
12. D Alexei Bereglazov
13. G Adam Huska
14. C Patrick Virta
15. D Calle Sjalin
16. LW Ryan Gropp
17. C Gabriel Fontaine
18. D Brandon Crawley
19. LW Tim Gettinger
20. G Alexandar Georgiev
21. D John Gilmour
22. D Sergey Zborovskiy
23. C Dominik Lakatos
24. LW Dawson Leedahl

That's a lot of 1-3% chances right there. Georgiev will probably get a boost in the summer.
 
Fitzy Duke of NY said:
If a single one of our prospects from rank 10 onwards last season makes the NHL full time in any capacity, I'll consider us to have beat the odds.

10. RW Ty Ronning
11. C Morgan Barron
12. D Alexei Bereglazov
13. G Adam Huska
14. C Patrick Virta
15. D Calle Sjalin
16. LW Ryan Gropp
17. C Gabriel Fontaine
18. D Brandon Crawley
19. LW Tim Gettinger
20. G Alexandar Georgiev
21. D John Gilmour
22. D Sergey Zborovskiy
23. C Dominik Lakatos
24. LW Dawson Leedahl

That's a lot of 1-3% chances right there. Georgiev will probably get a boost in the summer.
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I think Sjalin and Barron might. Sjalin especially is still very young (3 days older than Chytil)
 
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Fitzy Duke of NY said:
If a single one of our prospects from rank 10 onwards last season makes the NHL full time in any capacity, I'll consider us to have beat the odds.

10. RW Ty Ronning
11. C Morgan Barron
12. D Alexei Bereglazov
13. G Adam Huska
14. C Patrick Virta
15. D Calle Sjalin
16. LW Ryan Gropp
17. C Gabriel Fontaine
18. D Brandon Crawley
19. LW Tim Gettinger
20. G Alexandar Georgiev
21. D John Gilmour
22. D Sergey Zborovskiy
23. C Dominik Lakatos
24. LW Dawson Leedahl

That's a lot of 1-3% chances right there. Georgiev will probably get a boost in the summer.
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Barron, Huska, Georgiev and Gettinger I give the best shots. Virta is interesting but I've only seen him once in a Champions League game against poor competition. Some people are high on Sjalin but I'm not totally sure why. And then Gilmour "made it" in a sense, but I don't know if it will continue. I think we get one full time player out of the group. Anything more would be gravy.
 
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kovazub94 said:
Always had a problem with this statement (more like pet peeve). To me bottom 6ers are those who didn’t pan out as top 6ers but still were able to find a role to contribute and be useful to a team.
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In today’s NHL I think you have a lot of guys who are specifically drafted and developed to be bottom six forwards. There were no expectations for them to be top six forwards.

Yes, some too six players redefine themselves as bottom six players, but I don’t think it’s quite what it was 25 or 30 years ago. Not with teams expecting four lines to contribute and be able to play.
 
Fitzy Duke of NY said:
If a single one of our prospects from rank 10 onwards last season makes the NHL full time in any capacity, I'll consider us to have beat the odds.

10. RW Ty Ronning
11. C Morgan Barron
12. D Alexei Bereglazov
13. G Adam Huska
14. C Patrick Virta
15. D Calle Sjalin
16. LW Ryan Gropp
17. C Gabriel Fontaine
18. D Brandon Crawley
19. LW Tim Gettinger
20. G Alexandar Georgiev
21. D John Gilmour
22. D Sergey Zborovskiy
23. C Dominik Lakatos
24. LW Dawson Leedahl

That's a lot of 1-3% chances right there. Georgiev will probably get a boost in the summer.
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I think one would be a success, two would be a grand slam.

Just curious as to what qualifies as a full-time NHL player. If any of them make it, there’s a reasonable chance they fall in that 200-300 NHL game range where they maybe have a full season or two, with some scattered journeyman call-ups.
 
Tawnos said:
That’s BS. Not every player even has the skill set to be a top-6 player.

Carl Hagelin, for example, was a player who was NEVER going to be a top-6 player with his skill set, but developed into a fantastic 3rd liner.
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Hagelin was a 5th round pick. Amassing to what he became was a huge odds beater, which true to pretty much all late round picks. My point probably should've had more qualifiers, like picks with some better odds of becoming NHLers.
 
kovazub94 said:
Hagelin was a 5th round pick. Amassing to what he became was a huge odds beater, which true to pretty much all late round picks. My point probably should've had more qualifiers, like picks with some better odds of becoming NHLers.
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6th round pick actually.
 
Soo and Kitchener are going to OT in G7. No points for Gettinger. Winner goes to the finals to play Hamilton, who dispatched Kingston and Sean Day.
 
During Brayden Point's massive game tonight Pierre mentioned he was a winner in Moose Jaw. Realized we recently acquired another Moose Jaw prospect in Brett Howden. His career has had a similar trajectory as Point's in the WHL, looking like they both started learning defense in 2014 after Tim Hunter was named coach. Howden has a really impressive playoffs this year with 15 points in 14 games. Whats the chances he makes the jump next year and whats the likelihood he could develop into someone like Point?
 
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Calad said:
During Brayden Point's massive game tonight Pierre mentioned he was a winner in Moose Jaw. Realized we recently acquired another Moose Jaw prospect in Brett Howden. His career has had a similar trajectory as Point's in the WHL, looking like they both started learning defense in 2014 after Tim Hunter was named coach. Howden has a really impressive playoffs this year with 15 points in 14 games. Whats the chances he makes the jump next year and whats the likelihood he could develop into someone like Point?
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100%, imho.
 
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Calad said:
During Brayden Point's massive game tonight Pierre mentioned he was a winner in Moose Jaw. Realized we recently acquired another Moose Jaw prospect in Brett Howden. His career has had a similar trajectory as Point's in the WHL, looking like they both started learning defense in 2014 after Tim Hunter was named coach. Howden has a really impressive playoffs this year with 15 points in 14 games. Whats the chances he makes the jump next year and whats the likelihood he could develop into someone like Point?
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God willing
 
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Fitzy Duke of NY said:
If a single one of our prospects from rank 10 onwards last season makes the NHL full time in any capacity, I'll consider us to have beat the odds.

10. RW Ty Ronning
11. C Morgan Barron
12. D Alexei Bereglazov
13. G Adam Huska
14. C Patrick Virta
15. D Calle Sjalin
16. LW Ryan Gropp
17. C Gabriel Fontaine
18. D Brandon Crawley
19. LW Tim Gettinger
20. G Alexandar Georgiev
21. D John Gilmour
22. D Sergey Zborovskiy
23. C Dominik Lakatos
24. LW Dawson Leedahl

That's a lot of 1-3% chances right there. Georgiev will probably get a boost in the summer.
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“Fancy” John Gilmour is gonna make it. I can feel it!
 
Fitzy Duke of NY said:
If a single one of our prospects from rank 10 onwards last season makes the NHL full time in any capacity, I'll consider us to have beat the odds.

10. RW Ty Ronning
11. C Morgan Barron
12. D Alexei Bereglazov
13. G Adam Huska
14. C Patrick Virta
15. D Calle Sjalin
16. LW Ryan Gropp
17. C Gabriel Fontaine
18. D Brandon Crawley
19. LW Tim Gettinger
20. G Alexandar Georgiev
21. D John Gilmour
22. D Sergey Zborovskiy
23. C Dominik Lakatos
24. LW Dawson Leedahl

That's a lot of 1-3% chances right there. Georgiev will probably get a boost in the summer.
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I could be overrating him but I thinks georgiev has very good odds to be an NHL regular. Like over 50%. He played a lot of games last season and got shelled more then a few times but had literally one poor game against Washington
 
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Calad said:
During Brayden Point's massive game tonight Pierre mentioned he was a winner in Moose Jaw. Realized we recently acquired another Moose Jaw prospect in Brett Howden. His career has had a similar trajectory as Point's in the WHL, looking like they both started learning defense in 2014 after Tim Hunter was named coach. Howden has a really impressive playoffs this year with 15 points in 14 games. Whats the chances he makes the jump next year and whats the likelihood he could develop into someone like Point?
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I'd say his offensive ceiling is a level below Point's, which would be pretty consistent with their trajectories in the WHL.

I think Howden will likely play in the NHL next season, though I'd be a little surprised if he starts on the roster.

A great outcome would be for him to be top out just a tad above the 20 goal, 50 point mark. If he can get to that point, and bring his strong 200 foot game, clutch play, and be a guy who can be utilized in a number of scenarios, than that's a big get for the Rangers.
 
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I'd say his offensive ceiling is a level below Point's, which would be pretty consistent with their trajectories in the WHL.

I think Howden will likely play in the NHL next season, though I'd be a little surprised if he starts on the roster.

A great outcome would be for him to be top out just a tad above the 20 goal, 50 point mark. If he can get to that point, and bring his strong 200 foot game, clutch play, and be a guy who can be utilized in a number of scenarios, than that's a big get for the Rangers.
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Hayes' eventual replacement.
 
Fitzy Duke of NY said:
10. RW Ty Ronning
11. C Morgan Barron
12. D Alexei Bereglazov
13. G Adam Huska
14. C Patrick Virta
15. D Calle Sjalin
16. LW Ryan Gropp
17. C Gabriel Fontaine
18. D Brandon Crawley
19. LW Tim Gettinger
20. G Alexandar Georgiev
21. D John Gilmour
22. D Sergey Zborovskiy
23. C Dominik Lakatos
24. LW Dawson Leedahl

That's a lot of 1-3% chances right there. Georgiev will probably get a boost in the summer.
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Very good chance Georgiev makes it. After that I'd say Barron and Huska have the best shots, and Virta/Fontaine/Crawley/Gettinger all have low chances. Big year for those four in development.

Ronning has a lot of work to do so don't give up on him quite yet.

The rest especially Gropp and Bereglazov, I view as lost causes.

Update: Lettieri is somewhere on this list as well. Big, big summer for him. Does he become a guy that can improve his board work and score 12-15 goals at the NHL level, or is he just a decent AHL second liner?
 
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