Prospect Info: Rangers Prospects Thread (Player Stats in Post #1; Updated 6.16.22)

[bhamill]

So I never really got to respond to this because posting during the week is a futile effort with how accelerated work is:

I always use the disclaimer that I don't hate NY, I'm from here and I may seem or come off like a New York hater. When I say NY isn't special, honestly in the last 10-15 years, other than reputation, there have been like no improvements to the infrastructure or city over all. Look at places like Nashville, Austin, Milwaukee, they've all modernized. I always ask people what makes NY special now, what events, places, etc and they always refer back to nostalgia and pizzerias.

A lot of the ethnic restaurants in NY are available all over the country, microbreweries, etc.

The main museums and Broadway plays will always be there, but I don't see how they're different from other cities. You can find interesting stuff to do in every city. You can barely even go to a concert in Manhattan anymore. The real venues are in Brooklyn, Queens, etc.

Coupled with how expensive, hectic, and the whole "hey we're NY A #1" attitude with no factual evidence that much has improved in the last 10-15 years, it's still a big city, but not special or unique like it once was, especially for small town farm boys from Saskatchewan or NCAA prospects as UFAs.

If you can’t see how the Met, the American Museum of Natural History, the Guggenheim, the Cloisters etc etc etc are different from other cities I can’t help you. It’s subjective of course. If you don’t value that stuff then for YOU it’s not special. I’ll say it again because it bears repeating: many cities have something great, something they may be known for. But very very few have the WIDE range of outstanding features that NYC does. Parks, architecture, ALL types of culture, the financial sector, etc. NYC contributes more to the US GDP than all but three STATES, one of which is obviously NYS. hahaha. For instance Nashville has a great music scene, as does NYC, I go there for it, but nothing else there approaches NYC. DC has wonderful museums and history like NYC, the original Capitol city of the US, but the food and music scenes don’t come close. Just the fact of the matter. There’s a reason people flock here both to visit and to live. You may not be impressed with or like this city but it’s irrefutably special.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

If you can’t see how the Met, the American Museum of Natural History, the Guggenheim, the Cloisters etc etc etc are different from other cities I can’t help you. It’s subjective of course. If you don’t value that stuff then for YOU it’s not special. I’ll say it again because it bears repeating: many cities have something great, something they may be known for. But very very few have the WIDE Rnge of outstanding features that NYC does. Parks, architecture, ALL types of culture, the financial sector, etc. NYC contributes more to the US GDP than all but three STATES, one of which is obviously.NYS. hahaha. For instance Nashville has a great music scene, as does NYC, I go there for it, but nothing else there approaches NYC. DC has wonderful museums and history like NYC, the original Capitol city of the US, but the food and music scenes don’t come close. Just the fact of the matter. There’s a reason people flock here both to visit and to live. You may not be impressed with or like this city but it’s irrefutably special.

Even beyond museums that not everyone can appreciate. My friend and I were to the Russian Vodka Room last week and he was telling me how in Denver you'd never seen something like that (he spends a lot of time in Denver due to work). Not all places but a lot of places are just a lot more generic.

 

[bhamill]

Even beyond museums that not everyone can appreciate. My friend and I were to the Russian Vodka Room last week and he was telling me how in Denver you'd never seen something like that (he spends a lot of time in Denver due to work). Not all places but a lot of places are just a lot more generic.

Yeah. I get that it’s a subjective call on pretty much EVERYTHING about every city, but the sheer variety and range of great things in this city is not found many places on EARTH, never mind other NHL cities.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Yeah. I get that it’s a subjective call on pretty much EVERYTHING about every city, but the sheer variety and range of great things in this city is not found many places on EARTH, never mind other NHL cities.

I feel like it's been cool to shit on NYC lately and there ARE things to shit about (it's not the cheapest or cleanest city) but there's more variety there any anywhere else. That said for what I usually do I think I'd be fine living in other cities. I really enjoyed my year in Philly and even my two years in Pittsburgh.

 

[egelband]

So I never really got to respond to this because posting during the week is a futile effort with how accelerated work is:

I always use the disclaimer that I don't hate NY, I'm from here and I may seem or come off like a New York hater. When I say NY isn't special, honestly in the last 10-15 years, other than reputation, there have been like no improvements to the infrastructure or city over all. Look at places like Nashville, Austin, Milwaukee, they've all modernized. I always ask people what makes NY special now, what events, places, etc and they always refer back to nostalgia and pizzerias.

A lot of the ethnic restaurants in NY are available all over the country, microbreweries, etc.

The main museums and Broadway plays will always be there, but I don't see how they're different from other cities. You can find interesting stuff to do in every city. You can barely even go to a concert in Manhattan anymore. The real venues are in Brooklyn, Queens, etc.

Coupled with how expensive, hectic, and the whole "hey we're NY A #1" attitude with no factual evidence that much has improved in the last 10-15 years, it's still a big city, but not special or unique like it once was, especially for small town farm boys from Saskatchewan or NCAA prospects as UFAs.

A lot of the places and families that helped build NYC - at least Manhattan - into a special place have been priced out and replaced with mass-appeal stuff.
NY looks like a huge version of any other town.
Of course I’m generalizing but it’s certainly trending that way.
If I were moving back to NYC I’d probably choose to live in Queens.

 

[bhamill]

A lot of the places and families that helped build NYC - at least Manhattan - into a special place have been priced out and replaced with mass-appeal stuff.
NY looks like a huge version of any other town.
Of course I’m generalizing but it’s certainly trending that way.
If I were moving back to NYC I’d probably choose to live in Queens.

Depends. There’s a lot of corporate mass appeal franchise shit, like there is in any city, and even small towns these days, but there’s a shit ton of great non corporate stuff. Bars, music venues, restaurants, specialty stores. Gentrification IS an issue, but in those gentrified areas you don’t find the mass appeal corporate stuff. its more artisanal and snooty specialty stuff which I often have no use for either, but it is what it is. Times Square is an example of a cleaned up sterilized corporate Disneyland tourist attraction, but even there you just have to know where to look. One of the best old time bars in the city is still right there. Jimmy’s Corner, where you can still get a 4 dollar domestic bottle or can if you want.

 

[nyr2k2]

Cuylle has a goal so far.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Cuylle first star of game with 2 goals in a 4-1 win.

Othmann 3rd star of game with 1g/1a in a 6-3 win to tie the series.

 

[Roo Returns]

If you can’t see how the Met, the American Museum of Natural History, the Guggenheim, the Cloisters etc etc etc are different from other cities I can’t help you. It’s subjective of course. If you don’t value that stuff then for YOU it’s not special. I’ll say it again because it bears repeating: many cities have something great, something they may be known for. But very very few have the WIDE Rnge of outstanding features that NYC does. Parks, architecture, ALL types of culture, the financial sector, etc. NYC contributes more to the US GDP than all but three STATES, one of which is obviously.NYS. hahaha. For instance Nashville has a great music scene, as does NYC, I go there for it, but nothing else there approaches NYC. DC has wonderful museums and history like NYC, the original Capitol city of the US, but the food and music scenes don’t come close. Just the fact of the matter. There’s a reason people flock here both to visit and to live. You may not be impressed with or like this city but it’s irrefutably special.

It is subjective but even the architecture, it's tough to build new stuff in NYC because you can only go up.

I will clarify on DC because I lived there for three and a half years; they actually do have a good music and food scene. The NYC music scene is a few blocks in Brooklyn.

NYC has a lot of really good food.

I'm just saying from my point of view being from here that if I see flaws in it, some young NCAA UFA might not want to come here because it's either too big and overwhelming, of prefers somewhere with more nature.

 

[Roo Returns]

Cuylle first star of game with 2 goals in a 4-1 win.

Othmann 3rd star of game with 1g/1a in a 6-3 win to tie the series.

Good comeback for Othmann

 

[bhamill]

It is subjective but even the architecture, it's tough to build new stuff in NYC because you can only go up.

I will clarify on DC because I lived there for three and a half years; they actually do have a good music and food scene. The NYC music scene is a few blocks in Brooklyn.

NYC has a lot of really good food.

I'm just saying from my point of view being from here that if I see flaws in it, some young NCAA UFA might not want to come here because it's either too big and overwhelming, of prefers somewhere with more nature.

I didn’t say DC had NO scene, or not a good one, it just doesn’t compare to NYC. What do they have, the 930 and the Black Cat these days? (Yes I’ve gone down there, and MANY other cities to see bands. My vacations usually consist of catching a band I’m into in a venue I haven’t been to, or loved last time I visited, and visiting museums, parks and the like.) And if you think the music scene in NYC is limited to a few blocks in Brooklyn, I’d say you don’t get out enough. I go see bands, and play, all over the place. This coming week I’ll be in Brooklyn, Queens and SI for that reason.

But whatever. Someone, I don’t even know if it was you, said NYC wasn’t anything special, and that’s just objectively wrong. Of course there's flaws, a thing that DOESNT make it special, since most every city does…

 

[Ola]

Is he someone we should concern ourselves ever playing for the Rangers? All I've read was negative reports.

I agree what is said above.

In short, what is there to like about him? He is tremendous at getting out of high pressure situations and making plays with the puck. Sees the ice really well. Can navigate in a phonebooth. He is smart. If you want to play with the puck, he is simply very good at enabling that. That is very valuable in today's game on a top line as well as on a depth line.

What is there to dislike in his game? From one perspective, a hockey game can be described as a kind of a controlled flow, and for goals to be scored it takes breakdowns which to different degrees are forced. Henriksson is very good at giving his team a good flow, but it doesn't materialize in the forced breakdowns, missed assignments being exploited, and stuff like that resulting in goals being scored. Frölunda is a very strong high quality hockey team with a ton of depth on the roster as well as on the farm. Their coach loves Henriksson and he has mostly played a fair amount on a line higher up in the hierarchy. But he simply must add a gear and be able to just be a player that gives opponents real problems in 1 on 1 battles to get to the next step and to be able to have a shot at establishing himself in the NHL. Create more turnovers. Push slower Ds when hunting down pucks. Up the ants a lot.

Is it likely? I wouldn't rule it out. I mean, looking at his production and everything if you are realistic and frank, I don't think its far from someone being able to say like look, take my word for it, he isn't making it and having grounds for that. But I wouldn't say that and I do think I have good grounds for that too. Realistically, there are still paths for him to the NHL that shouldn't be characterized as super unlikely. But the odds are of course not great.

 

[cwede]

quick Monday morning OHL/WHL prospect playoff update
7 series w 8 prospects all 2 gmes played

Boyko having a rough go, all others contributing

Vierling's Barrie tied 1-1 Mississauga, Vierling w 1 G, the game 1 OT winner, +1

Othmann's Flint tied 1-1 w Owen Sound, Othmann 2+1 and -2
(Othmann's tough game 1 was reviewed above, recovered for a good game 2)

Cuylle's Windsor up 2-0 vs Sarnia, Cuylee 2+0 +2

Boyko's Kelowna trails Rempe's Seattle 0-2
Rempe 1+1 -2
Boyko w 2 dismal games - 12 GA in 94 minutes on 62 shots

Garand's Kamloops up 2-0 vs Spokane, allowed 2 G in 2 games on 48 total shots

Korczak's Moose Jaw up 2-0 vs Saskatchewan, Korczak 1+2 +2

Grubbe's Red Deer tied 1-1 vs Brandon, Grubbe 1+1

 

[huerter]

Which of our prospects are mouthguard chewers? If I were in charge of the draft I wouldn't take anyone who isn't a mouthguard chewer.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

Which of our prospects are mouthguard chewers? If I were in charge of the draft I wouldn't take anyone who isn't a mouthguard chewer.

Breastfed vs formula? That’s a 65 year old debate .

 

[cwede]

Tarnstrom, Edstrom play today, to keep their season alive,
their Rogle trails in SHL semifinal series 2-3

3 games Monday in CHL
Kamloops won Monday, Garand stopped 25 of 26, lead series 3-0
Flint lost 2-1, trails in series 1-2 Othmann scoreless w 4 shots
Barrie won 3-1, leads series 2-1, Vierling scoreless

Cuylle, Korczak, Grubbe, Boyko, Rempe all play today Tuesday

 

[bhamill]

quick Monday morning OHL/WHL prospect playoff update
7 series w 8 prospects all 2 gmes played

Boyko having a rough go, all others contributing

Vierling's Barrie tied 1-1 Mississauga, Vierling w 1 G, the game 1 OT winner, +1

Othmann's Flint tied 1-1 w Owen Sound, Othmann 2+1 and -2
(Othmann's tough game 1 was reviewed above, recovered for a good game 2)

Cuylle's Windsor up 2-0 vs Sarnia, Cuylee 2+0 +2

Boyko's Kelowna trails Rempe's Seattle 0-2
Rempe 1+1 -2
Boyko w 2 dismal games - 12 GA in 94 minutes on 62 shots

Garand's Kamloops up 2-0 vs Spokane, allowed 2 G in 2 games on 48 total shots

Korczak's Moose Jaw up 2-0 vs Saskatchewan, Korczak 1+2 +2

Grubbe's Red Deer tied 1-1 vs Brandon, Grubbe 1+1

Thanks for your work on the updates. Looks like our prospects on the whole are stepping it up. Nice to see.

 

[cwede]

Tarnstrom/Edstrom Rogle trail 2-3 with 1 period left to extend their season

Tarnstrom with a G

short term Pack Michael Lindqvist w 2A's for Farjestad

FAR 5-4 ROG | Farjestad - Rogle

www.livesport.com

 

[cwede]

Tarnstrom/Edstrom Rogle trail 2-3 with 1 period left to extend their season

Tarnstrom with a G

short term Pack Michael Lindqvist w 2A's for Farjestad

FAR 5-4 ROG | Farjestad - Rogle

www.livesport.com

NOT DEAD YET

Edstrom with 2 G late in 3rd, for a brief 4-3 lead, heading to OT 4-4

UPDATE: 4:40pmET - heading to 2nd OT

UPDATE: 5:13pmET - Edstrom/Tarnstrom season ends in double OT

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Apparently Othmann was banged up last game, looks like he got boarded. Stayed down for a while. Didn't finish the 2nd period, and played very limited minutes in the 3rd avoiding contact. Shoulder or concussion. Not good. Stop playing him if he is injured idiots.

 

[cwede]

guys, i cant promise i will get this done reliably going forward
but here is what happened Tuesday

Edstrom/Tarmstrom eliminated in double OT game 6 of SHL semi's

In Major Junior
OHL:
Cuylle's Windsor lost 2-5, lead series 2-1
Sarnia had 4 PPG and a ENG,
Cuylle 0 pts, even +/-

WHL
Seattle beat Kelowna 5-1, up 3-0 in series
Boyko was backup, Rempe 0 points

Moose Jaw won 3-2 in OT, up 3-0 in series
both Saskatoon goals on PP
Korczak 0 points, even

Red Deer won 3-1, up 2-1 in series
Grubbe 0 pts, even

Wed games: Othmann, Vierling, Grubbe, Korczak(sweep possible), Rempe/Boyko (sweep possible),

 

[Beer League Sniper]

guys, i cant promise i will get this done reliably going forward
but here is what happened Tuesday

Edstrom/Tarmstrom eliminated in double OT game 6 of SHL semi's

In Major Junior
OHL:
Cuylle's Windsor lost 2-5, lead series 2-1
Sarnia had 4 PPG and a ENG,
Cuylle 0 pts, even +/-

WHL
Seattle beat Kelowna 5-1, up 3-0 in series
Boyko was backup, Rempe 0 points

Moose Jaw won 3-2 in OT, up 3-0 in series
both Saskatoon goals on PP
Korczak 0 points, even

Red Deer won 3-1, up 2-1 in series
Grubbe 0 pts, even

Wed games: Othmann, Vierling, Grubbe, Korczak(sweep possible), Rempe/Boyko (sweep possible),

Thanks for doing this. Really nice to see a prospect wrap-up all in one post.

 

[cwede]

a snapshot of some of today's moves at Eliteprospects

 

[FoxysExpensiveNYDigs]

a snapshot of some of today's moves at Eliteprospects

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Man i had hope for Kovacs.

 

[Leetch3]