Prospect Info: Rangers Prospect Thread (Player Stats/Info in Post #1; Updated 1.12.21)

[eco's bones]

good skater for his size is normally code for not a good skater...if he was a good skater it wouldn't need the disclaimer

Gettinger is not a heavy footed player like say a Brian Boyle or Steven Fogarty--he's actually pretty light on his feet. There are lots of players that aren't quick out of the gate. Gettinger is not a guy who will have a problem keeping pace with most NHL level players. Let's also keep in mind his wingspan.

 

[Leetch3]

Gettinger is not a heavy footed player like say a Brian Boyle or Steven Fogarty--he's actually pretty light on his feet. There are lots of players that aren't quick out of the gate. Gettinger is not a guy who will have a problem keeping pace with most NHL level players. Let's also keep in mind his wingspan.

i've liked what i've seen from him as a 4th liner...not sure there is room for him. the big question is can he kill penalties at the nhl level. if he can he could find a role

 

[eco's bones]

i've liked what i've seen from him as a 4th liner...not sure there is room for him. the big question is can he kill penalties at the nhl level. if he can he could find a role

That's where I see him--4th line pk guy--once in a while knocks in a goal--he's got good hands and a very good shot release. He's about 220 but his body is more lithe than bulky. Looking at another huge guy we have--Edstrom is more the bulky type.

 

[nyr2k2]

Gettinger can and has played RW, also.

Re: his skating, he has big, chunky strides, but he covers a lot of ground. From a technical standpoint his skating isn't great, but in execution it works pretty well for him.

 

[Raspewtin]

I really hope he gets a chance. the few games he got a chance his defensive results were actually quite good.

 

[eco's bones]

Gettinger can and has played RW, also.

Re: his skating, he has big, chunky strides, but he covers a lot of ground. From a technical standpoint his skating isn't great, but in execution it works pretty well for him.

The one thing with skating is that people that are Gettinger's size when they're coming down the ice with speed are taking much longer strides than say what a 5'9 guy will. Smaller guys more commonly have that jump from the get go and take smaller steps to get up to speed.

 

[Ola]

Gettinger is not a heavy footed player like say a Brian Boyle or Steven Fogarty--he's actually pretty light on his feet. There are lots of players that aren't quick out of the gate. Gettinger is not a guy who will have a problem keeping pace with most NHL level players. Let's also keep in mind his wingspan.

So he is a heavy footed player?

I get what you mean and I also like Gettinger. But his progress is one of the things that bugs me with our strategy to spend a fairly significant part of our late round picks on real 'giants', not just players with size. Why? Guys his size that aren't great talents are just going to have a really hard time being much better than him. He does everything fairly well and is also a fairly smart player. What can an Edström possible become that will be a lot better than Gettinger?

 

[eco's bones]

So he is a heavy footed player?

I get what you mean and I also like Gettinger. But his progress is one of the things that bugs me with our strategy to spend a fairly significant part of our late round picks on real 'giants', not just players with size. Why? Guys his size that aren't great talents are just going to have a really hard time being much better than him. He does everything fairly well and is also a fairly smart player. What can an Edström possible become that will be a lot better than Gettinger?

I think Edstrom is kind of more in the Brian Boyle category and sticking with a SHL team in his draft year is kind of an accomplishment. But we have 4 real giants right now--Gettinger, Edstrom, Rueschoff and the recently drafted Rempe.

 

[Leetch3]

 

[nyr2k2]

Aaltonen a non-factor, only played 7:39.

Nothing for Ragnarsson.

Lindbum didn't start but also wasn't the backup. He was removed in the first period last game so he may be injured; he's injured more often than not so good chance.

Tarnstrom had an assist, still in J20.

Rykov had two assists but only played 14 minutes.

Reunanen had the goal above, also an assist, and played 24:30.

Huska's team's game was postponed. The other team had COVID stuff.

 

[kovazub94]

Like the unies

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

Gettinger is actually a pretty good skater for his size. He's not Kreider good but he can get around. Hartford uses him regularly in penalty kill situations. His ceiling is limited and he's never really been a consistent point producer. His first year pro--he fought the wrong guy--someone as big as him but older and stronger and more versed in pugilism and he got concussed and was out for quite a while.

Yes to all points. But he can shift to RW as honestly for a fourth line the RW/LW designation isn't as important if you're going to be primarily cycling, providing energy, and PKing. Not like Gettinger needs to get open for the Brett Hull/Petr Bondra one-timer.

He learned from his first year and doesn't try and go full Dave Schultz anymore.

If he can be a slightly more finesse Dwight King and "physical" in the sense that cycling and puck protection are his strengths, please let him develop as 4th liner with the big club.

 

[eco's bones]

Yes to all points. But he can shift to RW as honestly for a fourth line the RW/LW designation isn't as important if you're going to be primarily cycling, providing energy, and PKing. Not like Gettinger needs to get open for the Brett Hull/Petr Bondra one-timer.

He learned from his first year and doesn't try and go full Dave Schultz anymore.

If he can be a slightly more finesse Dwight King and "physical" in the sense that cycling and puck protection are his strengths, please let him develop as 4th liner with the big club.

Gettinger is not overly physical for his size. He wasn't that way in Sault Ste. Marie. He was a very important player though on his OHL team. He's got a very good shot release. He can fight actually fairly well though it's not something he looks for at all. Check out him and Andrew Perrott (son of ex-NHL goon Nathan Perrott). That said going from fighting a kid in juniors one year to fighting a late 20's man--bigger and thicker than he was and someone who's fought often enough he got laid out. I'm not sure how Gettinger would work as a RW though in SSM you would often see him coming down the right wing or setting up on the right side on their power play. His numbers aren't bad for the AHL for the two seasons he's played but they do speak to a limited ceiling. I like the reach--he's lanky for his size and in penalty kill situations which he did a lot of in both the OHL and AHL he can cover a lot of space and sticks in passing lanes is a big deal.

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

Gettinger is not overly physical for his size. He wasn't that way in Sault Ste. Marie. He was a very important player though on his OHL team. He's got a very good shot release. He can fight actually fairly well though it's not something he looks for at all. Check out him and Andrew Perrott (son of ex-NHL goon Nathan Perrott). That said going from fighting a kid in juniors one year to fighting a late 20's man--bigger and thicker than he was and someone who's fought often enough he got laid out. I'm not sure how Gettinger would work as a RW though in SSM you would often see him coming down the right wing or setting up on the right side on their power play. His numbers aren't bad for the AHL for the two seasons he's played but they do speak to a limited ceiling. I like the reach--he's lanky for his size and in penalty kill situations which he did a lot of in both the OHL and AHL he can cover a lot of space and sticks in passing lanes is a big deal.

Let him pay the 4th line and let Lemiuex or Gauthier switch to the opposite wing.

 

[eco's bones]

Let him pay the 4th line and let Lemiuex or Gauthier switch to the opposite wing.

Training camp is where a player earns a job or doesn't. I think he could be a candidate and personally I'd rather a player like him than a retread like McKegg. That said he'll have competition to beat out and then if he does make it he's got to keep it going.

 

[NYR Viper]

Gettinger, if he took another half-step and improved his skating/quickness is a NHL player. His wingspan on the PK would be invaluable. He plays both wings but so does Lemieux. He also has played that 2-way, strong on the boards game going all the way back to juniors so he isn’t reinventing himself. I’d be totally fine playing him on the 4th line this year and giving him some time. I think his ceiling is probably a 10g-10a 4th liner but with his size that’s valuable.

I’ve been pretty quiet on this opinion but I’d probably prefer Barron start in the AHL at center to see if they can round out his game there and allow Gettinger to take that 4th line, low minute role.

 

[Rongomania]

Rykov 9pts away from his career high in the K in about 40 less games .. Digging that for sure.

 

[nyr2k2]

Rykov 9pts away from his career high in the K in about 40 less games .. Digging that for sure.

We'll, he's on pace for 19 points (all assists) in 57 games, compared to his previous career high of 14 in 57. That's nice, I guess, but he's not really a puck mover so I'm not sure it means much.

More noteworthy for me is that he only plays 15 minutes and had been relegated to the third pair when it was kind of expected he'd be a big contributor.

 

[Rongomania]

We'll, he's on pace for 19 points (all assists) in 57 games, compared to his previous career high of 14 in 57. That's nice, I guess, but he's not really a puck mover so I'm not sure it means much.

More noteworthy for me is that he only plays 15 minutes and had been relegated to the third pair when it was kind of expected he'd be a big contributor.

Yeah, I noticed that his ice time seemed low, and he seems to be picking up A's regardless. I thought that looked promising, considering he's not in the PMD mold.

Are there much better dmen/solid vets ahead of him on the depth chart there?

 

[nyr2k2]

Aaltonen had an assist in 10 minutes. First point of the season for him.

Nothing for Reunanen on 27:30.

No points for Lundkvist.

Nothing for Edstrom, nothing for Sjalin, who opposed each other.

Tarnstrom had a secondary assist (J20).

Huge Ole Ass stopped 21/23 for the win.

Henriksson is playing right now.

 

[nyr2k2]

Yeah, I noticed that his ice time seemed low, and he seems to be picking up A's regardless. I thought that looked promising, considering he's not in the PMD mold.

Are there much better dmen/solid vets ahead of him on the depth chart there?

Klas Dahlbeck, who played 400 games split between the Blackhawks (who drafted him) and their AHL affiliate.

Mat Robinson, a Canadian who has been in Europe/Russia for almost a decade and has been a top PMD in the KHL for several years.

Mikhail Naumenkov is a career KHL guy who is decent.

Bogdan Kiselevich is a Russian NT regular and good KHL player. Played briefly for the Panthers a few years ago.

Dmitri Samorukov is 21, played in the OHL, was a third round pick of Edmonton, and was in the AHL last year.

Artem Sergeyev is 27 and a career KHL guy, who is okay.

All those guys had more TOI than him in the last game except Naumenkov. So, for one, they're playing seven D. And a couple of those guys are really established KHL players. But, Rykov should also be able to hang with them, and the reality is other than Dahlbeck none of them took regular shifts in the NHL. So you'd really like to see him getting minutes like a #2-3 on that team, at least. He's mature and experienced enough to play 18-20 good minutes in the KHL.

 

[Rongomania]

Klas Dahlbeck, who played 400 games split between the Blackhawks (who drafted him) and their AHL affiliate.

Mat Robinson, a Canadian who has been in Europe/Russia for almost a decade and has been a top PMD in the KHL for several years.

Mikhail Naumenkov is a career KHL guy who is decent.

Bogdan Kiselevich is a Russian NT regular and good KHL player. Played briefly for the Panthers a few years ago.

Dmitri Samorukov is 21, played in the OHL, was a third round pick of Edmonton, and was in the AHL last year.

Artem Sergeyev is 27 and a career KHL guy, who is okay.

All those guys had more TOI than him in the last game except Naumenkov. So, for one, they're playing seven D. And a couple of those guys are really established KHL players. But, Rykov should also be able to hang with them, and the reality is other than Dahlbeck none of them took regular shifts in the NHL. So you'd really like to see him getting minutes like a #2-3 on that team, at least. He's mature and experienced enough to play 18-20 good minutes in the KHL.

Thanks man! I figured it must be a decent group if he was getting this treatment. Would be great if he keeps progressing. Always like him since the Grabs trade.

 

[nyr2k2]

Henriksson was also scoreless.

 

[nyr2k2]

Thanks man! I figured it must be a decent group if he was getting this treatment. Would be great if he keeps progressing. Always like him since the Grabs trade.

I'm not sure if he's going to come back. He'll be 24 when the season is over and an RFA, so he can stay in Russia if he wants. I'm not totally sure he'd want to sign his QO and try to win a spot out of camp before the 21-22 season when he could just stay in the KHL.

I'm less sure about this, however, with the KHL hard cap of $13M or whatever it will be moving forward. That's not a lot of money to go around.

 

[Rongomania]

I'm not sure if he's going to come back. He'll be 24 when the season is over and an RFA, so he can stay in Russia if he wants. I'm not totally sure he'd want to sign his QO and try to win a spot out of camp before the 21-22 season when he could just stay in the KHL.

I'm less sure about this, however, with the KHL hard cap of $13M or whatever it will be moving forward. That's not a lot of money to go around.

Yeah, I definitely think it'll be interesting what happens with him. We hold his rights, so I don't mind him playing at home if he doesn't want to ever go back to the A.

Nice card to hold in our back pocket if we acquire a stud and have to trade valuable roster and prospect D men.