Prospect Info: Rangers Prospect Thread (Player Stats/Info in Post #1; Updated 1.12.21)

[SnowblindNYR]

Might be controversial but I don't have a problem with LAK above us.

Ottawa, I have a problem with.

Well the major difference between him and our poll is he excluded Shesty from his, that's a HUGE loss to the prospect pool.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

What credibility does this kid have? Or is he just a fan with a channel?

Yes

 

[Ola]

Lindbum gave up two goals on seven shots and was pulled after 13:25, no sure if due to injury or because he sucks.

Ragnarsson was -1.

Huge Ole Ass didn't start.

Pajuniemi still injured.

Rykov was -1 and played lass than 14 minutes.

Question: Could things be worse in Europe? Well lol now we only have one guy suspended. Two injuries. Ppl struggling.

 

[egelband]

With the draft thread locked I guess this is the best place to put my draft grade of NYR, methodology is in the first tweet in the thread.

What’s wrong with the big goalie? Curious, as I haven’t seen him. But I read he’s very technical and even, robotic. Which to me is ideal for a goalie. I want these guys keeping their form and energy. When a goalie is in the right spot he’s most effective - as I’m sure you’d agree. And a guy that big will be even more effective. Are you concerned with his athleticism? Of course we’d want technical diligence plus athleticism. But Ollas at least seems to have a couple important boxes checked.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Question: Could things be worse in Europe? Well lol now we only have one guy suspended. Two injuries. Ppl struggling.

Honestly, what are people's expectations of guys like Ragnarsson, Ollas, Själin, Aaltonen etc? Late round picks are a shot in the dark anyway. If they work out, great. If they don't, it shouldn't really be seen as a disaster.

 

[Beer League Sniper]

Honestly, what are people's expectations of guys like Ragnarsson, Ollas, Själin, Aaltonen etc? Late round picks are a shot in the dark anyway. If they work out, great. If they don't, it shouldn't really be seen as a disaster.

The only kid you listed that I had a problem with (as did most of the board) was Ragnarsson. The kid was a non-prospect and everyone knew it. The other picks all had real skill and upside, albeit low probability of actually hitting that upside.

Ollas is a bit more polarizing. I have no problem with taking a huge swing on a 7th round goalie. A kid that big is going to take a loooooooooong time to grow into his body. He's probably 6 years away from being an NHLer, if he makes it. We have no idea of what our goaltending situation is going to look like in 6 years. The challenge for Ollas is going to be not washing out before he grows into his body. If he can't be "good enough" for a team to keep around, getting him regular starts, he'll be out of hockey in 2-3 years.

 

[Raspewtin]

Question: Could things be worse in Europe? Well lol now we only have one guy suspended. Two injuries. Ppl struggling.

Only one suspension cause Bustersson isn't our prospect anymore

 

[Raspewtin]

Honestly, what are people's expectations of guys like Ragnarsson, Ollas, Själin, Aaltonen etc? Late round picks are a shot in the dark anyway. If they work out, great. If they don't, it shouldn't really be seen as a disaster.

There shouldn't be any but Ragnarsson was a bad pick and everyone knew it. Ollas, I mean, it's a 7th rounder IDK what you're supposed to do. Sjalin and Aaltonen were good gambles to take and they're players you should be able to leave in Europe and kinda just forget about them. I think as an org we are well past the point where we need to hope our longshots do something

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

There shouldn't be any but Ragnarsson was a bad pick and everyone knew it. Ollas, I mean, it's a 7th rounder IDK what you're supposed to do. Sjalin and Aaltonen were good gambles to take and they're players you should be able to leave in Europe and kinda just forget about them. I think as an org we are well past the point where we need to hope our longshots do something

Kjellberg was a more controversial pick than Ragnarsson

 

[Raspewtin]

Kjellberg was a more controversial pick than Ragnarsson

I know. You did not mention Kjellberg.

 

[nyr2k2]

Ragnarsson was a reach, but I actually liked what I saw when I watched him the last two years. Maybe doesn't justify the pick, but I was hopeful that within another two years he would be worth an ELC. He has some positive attributes but I don't know if he can put it all together.

 

[Joey Bones]

Yes

Meh, then...

 

[True Blue]

Ollas is a bit more polarizing. I have no problem with taking a huge swing on a 7th round goalie. A kid that big is going to take a loooooooooong time to grow into his body. He's probably 6 years away from being an NHLer, if he makes it. We have no idea of what our goaltending situation is going to look like in 6 years. The challenge for Ollas is going to be not washing out before he grows into his body. If he can't be "good enough" for a team to keep around, getting him regular starts, he'll be out of hockey in 2-3 years.

As things look currently, he has those 6 years.

 

[nyr2k2]

Lundkvist scoreless.

Edstrom was listed as the spare forward and isn't on the scoresheet.

Sjalin had a primary assist.

No points for Henriksson.

Kravtsov still out.

 

[Ola]

Honestly, what are people's expectations of guys like Ragnarsson, Ollas, Själin, Aaltonen etc? Late round picks are a shot in the dark anyway. If they work out, great. If they don't, it shouldn't really be seen as a disaster.

Yeah for sure, and Henriksson, Aaltonen, Pajuniemi and co, I still like those guys. Edström seem to be improving — but I am not sure I get the ‘let’s gamble on someone with size’ strategy that we clearly are employing. Seems like there could be better gambles, especially some really high quality KHLers.

 

[Leetch3]

Yeah for sure, and Henriksson, Aaltonen, Pajuniemi and co, I still like those guys. Edström seem to be improving — but I am not sure I get the ‘let’s gamble on someone with size’ strategy that we clearly are employing. Seems like there could be better gambles, especially some really high quality KHLers.

we got our elite talent...don't worry

 

[Kovalev27]

Kind of a quiet start for Lundkvist no?

And what the heck happened to Kravtsov? Was thinking it was a groin it’s been a little while

 

[egelband]

Yeah for sure, and Henriksson, Aaltonen, Pajuniemi and co, I still like those guys. Edström seem to be improving — but I am not sure I get the ‘let’s gamble on someone with size’ strategy that we clearly are employing. Seems like there could be better gambles, especially some really high quality KHLers.

Yeah. ‘Let’s draft him cuz he’s massive’ sounds like a gambit right out of the 90s. I assume (hope) there’s more to the scheme, but it does indeed sound dumb.

 

[n8]

Man, could you imagine a line of Gettinger-Rempe-Rueschhoff? #TallBoys

 

[Roo Returns]

Man, could you imagine a line of Gettinger-Rempe-Rueschhoff? #TallBoys

I'm really pulling for Timmy G to make the jump this season. It's year 3 for him which is generally when organizations start to lose faith in prospects.

He's improved each year. Same points in less games with more goals, a better +/- and less PIMs.

He's 22 which is prime age for bigger guys starting to figure it out.

I honestly don't know why he wasn't given more of a shot. He's a big guy who is good with cycling, defensively responsible, and can PK.

He was maybe a split second slow as the game went on but it wasn't like Derek Stepan/Peter Worrell slow. Hopefully he's worked on his stride and explosiveness during this offseson.

If his forte can be PKing and cycling, he'll do just fine. This team needs those kind of guys.

 

[n8]

Peter Worell slow? LUL
Is the a slow scale includes Brashear, Boogaard, Langdon, and Glass too?

Barring a trade, I'm not liking Timmy's chances of beating out Kreider, Panarin, Lafreniere, and Lemiuex on the LW. Like if you're a left wing, might as well ask for a trade at this point.

 

[ManUtdTobbe]

You have to count Lafreniere in the overall draft grade imho. I say it’s an A+
Schneider looks like a future stud.

I do count Laf in the overall draft grade, as a B because it was just an obvious pick Gorton fell into. I don’t agree with you on Schneider but I hope you’re right.

 

[ManUtdTobbe]

What’s wrong with the big goalie? Curious, as I haven’t seen him. But I read he’s very technical and even, robotic. Which to me is ideal for a goalie. I want these guys keeping their form and energy. When a goalie is in the right spot he’s most effective - as I’m sure you’d agree. And a guy that big will be even more effective. Are you concerned with his athleticism? Of course we’d want technical diligence plus athleticism. But Ollas at least seems to have a couple important boxes checked.

I’ve never seen him play. Big goalies with bad numbers are generellt bad ‍ Thats all

 

[eco's bones]

Gettinger is actually a pretty good skater for his size. He's not Kreider good but he can get around. Hartford uses him regularly in penalty kill situations. His ceiling is limited and he's never really been a consistent point producer. His first year pro--he fought the wrong guy--someone as big as him but older and stronger and more versed in pugilism and he got concussed and was out for quite a while.

 

[Leetch3]

Gettinger is actually a pretty good skater for his size. He's not Kreider good but he can get around. Hartford uses him regularly in penalty kill situations. His ceiling is limited and he's never really been a consistent point producer. His first year pro--he fought the wrong guy--someone as big as him but older and stronger and more versed in pugilism and he got concussed and was out for quite a while.

good skater for his size is normally code for not a good skater...if he was a good skater it wouldn't need the disclaimer