Confirmed with Link: Rangers hire Gallant as HC

[EdJovanovski]

Gotta think they're announcing an agreement

They officially announced it yesterday
I wonder when the press conference is though, really excited for it

 

[Fvital92]

They officially announced it yesterday
I wonder when the press conference is though, really excited for it

Tuesday.

 

[EdJovanovski]

Tuesday.

Source?

 

[NYSPORTS]

I appreciate the response with thoughtful reasoning behind it.

Resigning Kreider was the right move. Yes he is a veteran and yes they probably could have gotten a kings ransom for him at the deadline that year but you can't have the entire team coming into contracts all at the same time if you went for more picks/prospects. Choosing to resign him wasn't a sign that this team was in a win-now mode.

I always felt Kreider is a player who has some serious longevity in him, so his effectiveness will last throughout his deal. We will see where he will be utilized by Gallant in the coming seasons but he will be a useful player regardless of where he fits. You can moan about the contract all you want there isnt a team in the league that doesn't deal with that when trying to construct a winner.

I've always felt the 3rd contract is potentially a killer b/c the player has reached their peak, now they cost more and their best is behind them. I'm all for speed and shot b/c i don't think players lose their wheels often and usually never their shot.

Kreider doesn't really have the shot which concerns me. Panarin won't lose it and i'm thinking Zibby is similar.

We will see. Rangers are in a good spot. Have to win the boards though. Too many of these playoff teams don't allow anybody to skate.

 

[Fvital92]

Source?

A tweet from Vince.

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

They officially announced it yesterday
I wonder when the press conference is though, really excited for it

Oh, I was referring to the Rod Brind'Amour extension. Yeah, the presser for Gallant is on Tuesday.

 

[romba]

in before 'hasn't played KIDZ fyrz gallant'

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

Like most things in this nation, I think we're seeing a clear divide in the fan base.

You have two main groups - the ones who lean towards slower and steady and think things are a little further off, and the ones who lean toward speeding things up and things the horizon is closer.

Without debating the merits of both groups, I think there is a justifiable concern there about squandering the long-term benefits for the short-term gratification. It's a bit of tight rope to walk for Drury. It will require him and his staff identifying the right players to keep, the right players to bring in and balancing a steady infusion of talent.

What concerns me is that this team, unless it does a complete overhaul, has a lot of question marks. That's a product of it still being such a young team. If the young talent clicks and takes the next steps, this can be a very exciting team. If it doesn't, it can be a very frustrating team --- like it was last season. Because of the way we're constructed, we're still only an injury or two away from relying on payers with less than 200 or 100 games of NHL experience.

That's not inherently a bad thing if we accept that this is a young team, but it becomes problematic if we believe this is a team destined for playoff success. To me the playoffs are certainly attainable this next season, and missing them would be seen as a failure. But any potential failure could be a bit more nuanced than simply being "good enough" or "not good enough".

My hope is that we support progress constructively, and not for the sake of trying to force milestones.

That is a much more even keeled way to describe how I am feeling at the moment. Thanks

I am really excited for Gallant and I think this team possesses a ton of talent and can definitely make a run at the playoffs with a few tweaks, but as you mentioned its the expectation that is hovering over the team that I am worrisome about - and how that will manifest itself over the coming seasons.

 

[chosen]

Like most things in this nation, I think we're seeing a clear divide in the fan base.

You have two main groups - the ones who lean towards slower and steady and think things are a little further off, and the ones who lean toward speeding things up and things the horizon is closer.

Without debating the merits of both groups, I think there is a justifiable concern there about squandering the long-term benefits for the short-term gratification. It's a bit of tight rope to walk for Drury. It will require him and his staff identifying the right players to keep, the right players to bring in and balancing a steady infusion of talent.

What concerns me is that this team, unless it does a complete overhaul, has a lot of question marks. That's a product of it still being such a young team. If the young talent clicks and takes the next steps, this can be a very exciting team. If it doesn't, it can be a very frustrating team --- like it was last season. Because of the way we're constructed, we're still only an injury or two away from relying on payers with less than 200 or 100 games of NHL experience.

That's not inherently a bad thing if we accept that this is a young team, but it becomes problematic if we believe this is a team destined for playoff success. To me the playoffs are certainly attainable this next season, and missing them would be seen as a failure. But any potential failure could be a bit more nuanced than simply being "good enough" or "not good enough".

My hope is that we support progress constructively, and not for the sake of trying to force milestones.

Not clear how someone could surmise this isn't a young team, but I absolutely will be disappointed if they don't get into the playoffs next season. If they don't, Gallant will have failed in his first season here, in my opinion. Why fire a coach and make a splash with Gallant if the absolute goal wasn't to make the playoffs next season?

Hell, I believe if Quinn hadn't been let go, the Rangers would have been in the playoffs next season.

They didn't miss by much and had to endure a Covid version of their best goal-scorer for half a season, lost a month of their best forward to Putin, and lost their highest scoring defenseman for almost the entire season.

And yet, so many fans who claimed they would be able to stand the growing pains of the youngest team in the league, absolutely lost their shit this past season.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

I've always felt the 3rd contract is potentially a killer b/c the player has reached their peak, now they cost more and their best is behind them. I'm all for speed and shot b/c i don't think players lose their wheels often and usually never their shot.

Kreider doesn't really have the shot which concerns me. Panarin won't lose it and i'm thinking Zibby is similar.

We will see. Rangers are in a good spot. Have to win the boards though. Too many of these playoff teams don't allow anybody to skate.

I agree with you but Im not sure it applies fully to Chris. The thing about Kreids is I was willing to take the gamble that he will retain the wheels and strength later on his contract due to his rare physique and habits off the ice. A lot of his goals are scored in the front of the net and he can park himself in front the PP on my team until the late 30s the way I see it, hes mastered it.

 

[cwede]

... I absolutely will be disappointed if they don't get into the playoffs next season...

it's a huge hill to climb,
it means surpassing at least 2 of
Wash, Pitt, Canes, Isles, || Leafs, Lightning, Bruins, Panthers,
Montreal(building off this run) Flyers (who, recall, were 2nd in div 2 years back)

MAYBE Caps, Pens and Bruins have passed their shelf life, but it is not certain

I will love to have playoff games as soon as possible,
but won't be surprised if NYR get edged out again next

 

[leetch99]

We will pass Bruins and Penguins . That's not setting the bar very high.

 

[chosen]

it's a huge hill to climb,
it means surpassing at least 2 of
Wash, Pitt, Canes, Isles, || Leafs, Lightning, Bruins, Panthers,
Montreal(building off this run) Flyers (who, recall, were 2nd in div 2 years back)

MAYBE Caps, Pens and Bruins have passed their shelf life, but it is not certain

I will love to have playoff games as soon as possible,
but won't be surprised if NYR get edged out again next

Then what was the point of signing Gallant?

 

[RangerBlues]

Im not gonna suffer irrational exuberance.

 

[cwede]

Then what was the point of signing Gallant?

To get them better, and win when they're ready.
Maybe next, but maybe it takes another season or two.
Setting a 'deadline' of next season is just 'table talk'

 

[leetch99]

To get them better, and win when they're ready.
Maybe next, but maybe it takes another season or two.
Setting a 'deadline' of next season is just 'table talk'

I think our division is going to weaken quite quickly and the opportunity is there for a team that is young and skilled. Getting there is the easy part ...staying there is a whole different game though . That is a whole new conversation.

 

[chosen]

To get them better, and win when they're ready.
Maybe next, but maybe it takes another season or two.
Setting a 'deadline' of next season is just 'table talk'

Next season, more than likely, we'll see better production from Zib and Panarin.

Kakko and Lafreniere should both take major strides forward.

Their defense will at the very least be replacing Hajek with Lundqvist, which should be an enormous upgrade and they figure to have an upgrade to Smith, as well.

If they don't make the playoffs next season, how is Gallant even as good a coach as Quinn, let alone much better?

 

[Ola]

Lets set a few things clear.

(a) No matter what you think Dolan may or may not want to do — no matter what it is IMPOSSIBLE for Drury to genuinely “sacrifice” the future to win now.

How can this even be a topic? We have zero space under the cap just looking a couple of years ahead. No moves are made in this league to start with.

It’s not a realistic scenario.

(b) What is a realistic scenario? It’s minor changes from what Gorton would have done. If we have more than three new faces in October — be surprised.

In the big picture — it’s impossible for Drury to make anything else than a slight change of course. Which Gorton probably also would have done.

(c) Anyone think Glen Sather steps in and have Gorton fired because a slight change of course was needed?

Anyone driving this agenda, it’s just pure nonsense from start to finish.

We made very significant blunders — for different reasons — and Gorton was in charge of them and a huge reason for them was in all likely hood his desire to have a total tool behind the bench and only surround himself with people that he could control.

We just lost course to the extent that there were reason to really question the guy in charge.

 

[Ola]

If Gorton hires a coach that tells him, look, you are in charge of the roster and I am in charge of how the team plays. But we will only play intra-division games and our roster is just way to soft. It’s unacceptable. — he still got a job.

All of our disasters comes from Gorton surrounding himself with pushovers. 90% was good, the 10% totally unacceptable.

 

[Black Aces]

Next season, more than likely, we'll see better production from Zib and Panarin.

Kakko and Lafreniere should both take major strides forward.

Their defense will at the very least be replacing Hajek with Lundqvist, which should be an enormous upgrade and they figure to have an upgrade to Smith, as well.

If they don't make the playoffs next season, how is Gallant even as good a coach as Quinn, let alone much better?

If you need to ask you are hopeless.

Anyone knows its an upgrade.

 

[2014nyr]

Keep Quinn another year?

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hey everyones got their own opinion. thats mine. a lot of what people griped about him had nothing to do with him.

going to be interesting how quick people around here are to turn on gallant if say kakko isn't on a pp or about whichever of the kids doesn't break out right away under him either. or maybe people will turn on kid x because clearly its not coaching holding them back now that gallant is here. the only certainty is people here will immediately turn their attention to new things to complain about whether its the lines, who's playing/not playing, style of play, systems, ice time, development and on and on. should start a pool on who/what will become the new whipping boy around here without quinn to blame everything on

 

[yada]

hey everyones got their own opinion. thats mine. a lot of what people griped about him had nothing to do with him.

going to be interesting how quick people around here are to turn on gallant if say kakko isn't on a pp or about whichever of the kids doesn't break out right away under him either. or maybe people will turn on kid x because clearly its not coaching holding them back now that gallant is here. the only certainty is people here will immediately turn their attention to new things to complain about whether its the lines, who's playing/not playing, style of play, systems, ice time, development and on and on. should start a pool on who/what will become the new whipping boy around here without quinn to blame everything on

Miller, trouba, kreider all easy targets.

Miller bit of a rough end to the season, trouba huge contract, kreider always streaky cold and hot.

 

[AlaBlueShirt]

Im excited to see how the bigger guys like Trouba and Kreider will play under Gallant.

 

[Chytilmania]

I think our division is going to weaken quite quickly and the opportunity is there for a team that is young and skilled. Getting there is the easy part ...staying there is a whole different game though . That is a whole new conversation.

I was expecting that this season but maybe the shortened season helped the older Metro teams out. The Isles still have Trotz and goaltending but Boston, Washington and Pitt all have good chances of really falling flat next year. Should be interesting. Pretty soon it will be Carolina and NYR fighting for the division.

 

[Ola]

I was expecting that this season but maybe the shortened season helped the older Metro teams out. The Isles still have Trotz and goaltending but Boston, Washington and Pitt all have good chances of really falling flat next year. Should be interesting. Pretty soon it will be Carolina and NYR fighting for the division.

I think all teams have so big issues, that if you just don’t fall through in any area of your game you will get a lot of pts by just not giving them away. Some experienced teams can hold on longer than what should be expected from their roster, but I wouldn’t be surprised if any of the teams you mention fall through.