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It’s funny…Gallant is referenced as former Panthers and Knights coach but not much has it been mentioned he coached Columbus for a couple years, too.
 
RGY said:
Yeah…I’ll sign up for another ECF and SCF appearance with the hope our luck is more fortunate this time around.
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Who wouldn't, but the other fellow is considered a buffoon here, by most.

Odd how similar resumes can be viewed so differently.
 
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Synergy27 said:
Given the relatively mixed reactions to this signing, I think people are forgetting how much of a shit show this organization was last season+. The embarrassing bubble performance. The Deangelo debacle. The Panarin saga (I still have no clue what that was about). Lias Andersson. Top two picks in consecutive drafts underwhelming. The Wilson incident. The team looking GREAT while DQ was out.

There was a lot going on. The firing of Gorton and DQ looked impulsive and impetuous, but there was a whole lot of stuff happening in public that looked really bad for the org. Responsibility for that has to rest with upper management. We act like Dolan took a team and organization that was cruising into the station and knocked it off the rails for no reason at all.

I don’t understand how anyone can be anything but hopeful at this point.
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The embarrassing bubble performance was one team being much better than the other. Nothing more than that.

Deangelo caused his own problems.

Everyone else seems to understand what the Panarin thing was about.

Lias Andersson? You mean a draft pick that doesn't work out, like on every other team?

Top two picks underwhelming? Kakko was a disappointment as a rookie, but looked just fine as a sophmore. Lafreniere looks like a future star and perhaps a superstar.

Wilson has had incidents with quite a few teams.

The toughest thing for an organization to acquire is high level talent. The Rangers have that in spades.

Filling it in with the other necessary components is easy by comparison.

It's what Tampa did last season and what Stanley Cup winners have been doing forever.

This team was headed precisely in the right direction. Hopefully, that trajectory continues.
 
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MrAlmost said:
I'll concede the Trottier one. That was probably them trying to get a New York sports legend and a guy coming off a Cup as an assistant.
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That hire should never be forgiven.. That was rock bottom Dark Ages time. Trottier and the rest of the Fishstick Federation shall remain cursed!!!!
 
chosen said:
Who wouldn't, but the other fellow is considered a buffoon here, by most.

Odd how similar resumes can be viewed so differently.
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Maybe similar resumes, but different coaches.

It is pretty widely known at this point that AV implements a system and then takes a more hands off approach with his players. He leans on his veterans to lead the way and do the talking in the room.

Everything I have read and heard, including listening to Mike Rupp on Sirius yesterday, sounds as if Gallant is very well liked, but also well respected. He isn’t afraid to get in any player’s face and tell them they are playing like shit. He commands the attention of the room. I also think Gallant has done more with less than AV had.

I am all for this hiring.
 
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Of the current and former head coaches, I would only take a handful of them over Gallant (and when I say former, I don't mean Scotty Bowman. I mean the Torts and Babcocks of the world):

Ones I would DEFINITELY take over Gallant:

Barry Trotz
Joel Quenneville
Jon Cooper


Ones that I MIGHT take over Gallant:

Rod Brind'Amour
Bruce Cassidy
Mike Sullivan - but he's been on the snide the last few years
Dominique Ducharme (though I imagine he wouldn't fit in well here with his English)
Craig Berube
 
Do the Rangers grab Ross the Boss Johnson if he hits waivers ? Him and Gallant would know one another well . Could he become our very poor man's Ryan Reaves ? A terrible player but he knows his job and he is at a Million per for one more season I think . Sign him for just the Cap games and then waive him again halfway through the season once he has had a couple of discussions with Tom !
 
Gallant has controversy over all of his firings... I can't wait for the drama in 3 years.

Owners hate him for this one simple trick... see why.
 
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On an earler episode of Real Kiper - Doug MacLean said that when he was in Florida - Gallant was let go because people in the front office suites were telling him who to play, what lines to play, etc. It wasn't yesterdays episode it was the episode following Quinn's departure.
 
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2014nyr said:
not gonna lie i have that fear. i hope it works out obviously. i think theres reasons to believe gallant could do well, but its fair to say there's a large degree of uncertainty with him as well. and not just him, there's also the detonation of the entire front office thats taken place. who knows what the hell the plan is there.

a few months ago we by all appearances had literally everything going for us. youngest team in the league making a legit push for a playoff spot in an extremely challenging year with an extremely tough division to win a spot in. we had a highly respected front office, organizational continuity, an extremely talented roster that had a few known and easy to address areas to improve on that would round us into a legit contender. we had elite, high end kids. the only questions we really had were if quinn was the guy or not and what prospects would emerge to what level / what the final picture would look like. i'm far from sure quinn was it, but i also strongly believe he wasn't given a chance to answer that either way. and i personally think he should have been given next year, if for nothing else than to keep some consistency in the org and one less thing on drury's plate as he got his feet under him as a gm filling out front office roles and establishing his culture and vision. i think quinn deserved a more complete 4 line roster, time with year 2 of laf - its not like we've been a bottom feeder with him. even if drury went into it with the thought that he'd pull the trigger by midseason if we didn't take off, thats half a season he'd have had to figure out the next move beyond quinn. half a season and a summer to get a few more voices in the front office to evaluate/discuss with. and as you mentioned, gallant isn't scotty bowman coming in. i like him, think he was as good as we could have done with the names thrown around, but its not like if we missed on him by keeping quinn a few more months if thats what it ended up being there wouldn't be comparable options out there. and in those cases drury would have had far more time to evaluate. because while we'll never know exactly what drury's thoughts were throughout, there's no way to not view the way we sort of dragged our feet to see what else might come onto the market before hiring gallant and not feel like we basically went 'fk it you'll have to do".

since the wilson incident we've become a joke around the league with that letter - something that will follow our guys on the ice for years - and god only knows in what ways it'll haunt us in officiating / league office decisions. our entire front office has been gutted. our coaching staff axed.

but for me that feeling is less to do with gallant specifically and everything to do with where we are as an organization today versus where i imagined us being today a year ago. we just can't have nice things can we
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Keep Quinn another year?

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HockeyBasedNYC said:
I think it goes really well or really badly, but it won’t be because of the players or Gallant.

It will be because of the unrealistic expectations that the owner has bestowed upon the team.

What Dolan has set in motion is already infecting the fan base. Let’s be honest, this team is still a year or two away (as are the rest of the division alphas before they are forced to start thinking of a rebuild of their own).

That is unless Drury works some incredible magic this off-season. That’s a lot to ask of a first year GM, not to mention he should really wait and see what players Gallant trusts first instead of basing it all off of Quinn’s tenure.

Patience. Something almost all of the fan base bought into (and was working) until it was ripped away from us.
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Oh not this bull shit again.
 
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Synergy27 said:
Will be interesting to see what he thinks when the season starts. He clearly didn’t trust him against watered down international competition. NHL competition is better and stakes are higher, no?
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I think it's more that he probably had a hand in determining what players were picked for the team? And he was able to be around Braden for a couple of weeks including practice time.
 
HockeyBasedNYC said:
That is unless Drury works some incredible magic this off-season. That’s a lot to ask of a first year GM, not to mention he should really wait and see what players Gallant trusts first instead of basing it all off of Quinn’s tenure.

Patience. Something almost all of the fan base bought into (and was working) until it was ripped away from us.
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i’m thinking there was more going on behind the scenes than we realize.

I certainly did not want change in the front office yet was unhappy with the bottom 6 since Carolina pushed the roster around. I wanted some power to protect the kids and win some board battles. It was nauseating seeing how both Washington and the Isles toyed with the Rangers while Boston pretty much dominated them.

Didn’t appear the front office was going to address the physical factor although they did draft some key pieces for those roles. Those kids aren’t here yet.

Back to patience, and this is where it’s you can’t have your cake and eat it too. You want to be patient yet they resigned Kreider. Well, why if the team is not ready to win?
 
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i’m thinking there was more going on behind the scenes than we realize.

I certainly did not want change in the front office yet was unhappy with the bottom 6 since Carolina pushed the roster around. I wanted some power to protect the kids and win some board battles. It was nauseating seeing how both Washington and the Isles toyed with the Rangers while Boston pretty much dominated them.

Didn’t appear the front office was going to address the physical factor although they did draft some key pieces for those roles. Those kids aren’t here yet.

Back to patience, and this is where it’s you can’t have your cake and eat it too. You want to be patient yet they resigned Kreider. Well, why if the team is not ready to win?
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I appreciate the response with thoughtful reasoning behind it.

Resigning Kreider was the right move. Yes he is a veteran and yes they probably could have gotten a kings ransom for him at the deadline that year but you can't have the entire team coming into contracts all at the same time if you went for more picks/prospects. Choosing to resign him wasn't a sign that this team was in a win-now mode.

I always felt Kreider is a player who has some serious longevity in him, so his effectiveness will last throughout his deal. We will see where he will be utilized by Gallant in the coming seasons but he will be a useful player regardless of where he fits. You can moan about the contract all you want there isnt a team in the league that doesn't deal with that when trying to construct a winner.
 
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HockeyBasedNYC said:
I think it goes really well or really badly, but it won’t be because of the players or Gallant.

It will be because of the unrealistic expectations that the owner has bestowed upon the team.

What Dolan has set in motion is already infecting the fan base. Let’s be honest, this team is still a year or two away (as are the rest of the division alphas before they are forced to start thinking of a rebuild of their own).

That is unless Drury works some incredible magic this off-season. That’s a lot to ask of a first year GM, not to mention he should really wait and see what players Gallant trusts first instead of basing it all off of Quinn’s tenure.

Patience. Something almost all of the fan base bought into (and was working) until it was ripped away from us.
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Like most things in this nation, I think we're seeing a clear divide in the fan base.

You have two main groups - the ones who lean towards slower and steady and think things are a little further off, and the ones who lean toward speeding things up and things the horizon is closer.

Without debating the merits of both groups, I think there is a justifiable concern there about squandering the long-term benefits for the short-term gratification. It's a bit of tight rope to walk for Drury. It will require him and his staff identifying the right players to keep, the right players to bring in and balancing a steady infusion of talent.

What concerns me is that this team, unless it does a complete overhaul, has a lot of question marks. That's a product of it still being such a young team. If the young talent clicks and takes the next steps, this can be a very exciting team. If it doesn't, it can be a very frustrating team --- like it was last season. Because of the way we're constructed, we're still only an injury or two away from relying on payers with less than 200 or 100 games of NHL experience.

That's not inherently a bad thing if we accept that this is a young team, but it becomes problematic if we believe this is a team destined for playoff success. To me the playoffs are certainly attainable this next season, and missing them would be seen as a failure. But any potential failure could be a bit more nuanced than simply being "good enough" or "not good enough".

My hope is that we support progress constructively, and not for the sake of trying to force milestones.
 
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