Confirmed with Link: Rangers hire Gallant as HC
- Thread starter TheGortonConspiracy
- Start date
-
Xenforo Cloud will be upgrading us to version 2.3.5 on March 3rd at 12 AM GMT. This version has increased stability and fixes several bugs. We expect downtime for the duration of the update. The admin team will continue to work on existing issues, templates and upgrade all necessary available addons to minimize impact of this new version. Click Here for Updates
haveandare
Registered User
That’s fine, Danault is going to be an anchor if he gets anything like what he supposedly wants.
Goodrow and someone like McNabb maybe would be good
rangers1314
Registered User
Kords
Registered User
- Jun 19, 2019
- 7,455
- 12,913
I've noticed Devils fans have been particularly salty over us hiring him. I'm sure it has nothing to do with them settling for Ruff, lmao.
He was the best available, but reading all the praise and how well he is predicted to fit with this org has me borderline excited.....
Ya know what? I'm gonna do it! I'm gonna let myself be excited! Wooo, go me! =)
He was the best available, but reading all the praise and how well he is predicted to fit with this org has me borderline excited.....
Ya know what? I'm gonna do it! I'm gonna let myself be excited! Wooo, go me! =)
f*** yeah. A proper coach.
let's gooooooooooo
let's gooooooooooo
Richard Banger
Mamba Mentality
RangerBlues
Registered User
LiveLongandProspal
NY Rangers = America's Team
Doug MacLean: "There's no better coaching job than the New York Rangers. It's an ultimate job along with the Toronto Maple Leafs'."
LiveLongandProspal
NY Rangers = America's Team
RangerBlues
Registered User
Glen Sathers Cigar
Sather 4 Ever
Peltz
Registered User
- Oct 4, 2019
- 3,925
- 5,628
Why? He's been pretty successful over the last few years. What could you possibly be objecting to at this point?
Yeah…I’ll sign up for another ECF and SCF appearance with the hope our luck is more fortunate this time around.
leetch99
Leetch66 Joined 2007
Pinching myself every hour....this has actually happened . Thank you Las Vegas. I think a lot of us will enjoy a fast moving young hockey club full of piss and vinegar . Buckle up Ranger fans !
LiveLongandProspal
NY Rangers = America's Team
Have you heard anything about his assistants? Fellow PEIer Mike Kelly? His SIL Darryl Boyce? Dan Girardi?
not gonna lie i have that fear. i hope it works out obviously. i think theres reasons to believe gallant could do well, but its fair to say there's a large degree of uncertainty with him as well. and not just him, there's also the detonation of the entire front office thats taken place. who knows what the hell the plan is there.
a few months ago we by all appearances had literally everything going for us. youngest team in the league making a legit push for a playoff spot in an extremely challenging year with an extremely tough division to win a spot in. we had a highly respected front office, organizational continuity, an extremely talented roster that had a few known and easy to address areas to improve on that would round us into a legit contender. we had elite, high end kids. the only questions we really had were if quinn was the guy or not and what prospects would emerge to what level / what the final picture would look like. i'm far from sure quinn was it, but i also strongly believe he wasn't given a chance to answer that either way. and i personally think he should have been given next year, if for nothing else than to keep some consistency in the org and one less thing on drury's plate as he got his feet under him as a gm filling out front office roles and establishing his culture and vision. i think quinn deserved a more complete 4 line roster, time with year 2 of laf - its not like we've been a bottom feeder with him. even if drury went into it with the thought that he'd pull the trigger by midseason if we didn't take off, thats half a season he'd have had to figure out the next move beyond quinn. half a season and a summer to get a few more voices in the front office to evaluate/discuss with. and as you mentioned, gallant isn't scotty bowman coming in. i like him, think he was as good as we could have done with the names thrown around, but its not like if we missed on him by keeping quinn a few more months if thats what it ended up being there wouldn't be comparable options out there. and in those cases drury would have had far more time to evaluate. because while we'll never know exactly what drury's thoughts were throughout, there's no way to not view the way we sort of dragged our feet to see what else might come onto the market before hiring gallant and not feel like we basically went 'fk it you'll have to do".
since the wilson incident we've become a joke around the league with that letter - something that will follow our guys on the ice for years - and god only knows in what ways it'll haunt us in officiating / league office decisions. our entire front office has been gutted. our coaching staff axed.
but for me that feeling is less to do with gallant specifically and everything to do with where we are as an organization today versus where i imagined us being today a year ago. we just can't have nice things can we
LiveLongandProspal
NY Rangers = America's Team
That's more of a fear that things go wrong with the Rangers, which admittedly they do. It doesn't have to do with Gallant. As far as who I'd want to coach the Rangers, I couldn't name you seven guys, currently employed or not, that I'd want over Gallant.
HockeyBasedNYC
Feeling it
I think it goes really well or really badly, but it won’t be because of the players or Gallant.
It will be because of the unrealistic expectations that the owner has bestowed upon the team.
What Dolan has set in motion is already infecting the fan base. Let’s be honest, this team is still a year or two away (as are the rest of the division alphas before they are forced to start thinking of a rebuild of their own).
That is unless Drury works some incredible magic this off-season. That’s a lot to ask of a first year GM, not to mention he should really wait and see what players Gallant trusts first instead of basing it all off of Quinn’s tenure.
Patience. Something almost all of the fan base bought into (and was working) until it was ripped away from us.
It will be because of the unrealistic expectations that the owner has bestowed upon the team.
What Dolan has set in motion is already infecting the fan base. Let’s be honest, this team is still a year or two away (as are the rest of the division alphas before they are forced to start thinking of a rebuild of their own).
That is unless Drury works some incredible magic this off-season. That’s a lot to ask of a first year GM, not to mention he should really wait and see what players Gallant trusts first instead of basing it all off of Quinn’s tenure.
Patience. Something almost all of the fan base bought into (and was working) until it was ripped away from us.
Last edited:
Chaels Arms
Formerly Lias Andersson
If you say "this is going to be a disaster" or "I'm really worried about this hire" yet have no ability to suggest an alternative that would completely allay those fears than you are just wasting your breath.
There is risk with every new hire. Nothing is guaranteed. This was the right move because he is, by a large margin IMO, the best currently available candidate.
There is risk with every new hire. Nothing is guaranteed. This was the right move because he is, by a large margin IMO, the best currently available candidate.
LiveLongandProspal
NY Rangers = America's Team
Synergy27
F-A-C-G-C-E
Given the relatively mixed reactions to this signing, I think people are forgetting how much of a shit show this organization was last season+. The embarrassing bubble performance. The Deangelo debacle. The Panarin saga (I still have no clue what that was about). Lias Andersson. Top two picks in consecutive drafts underwhelming. The Wilson incident. The team looking GREAT while DQ was out.
There was a lot going on. The firing of Gorton and DQ looked impulsive and impetuous, but there was a whole lot of stuff happening in public that looked really bad for the org. Responsibility for that has to rest with upper management. We act like Dolan took a team and organization that was cruising into the station and knocked it off the rails for no reason at all.
I don’t understand how anyone can be anything but hopeful at this point.
There was a lot going on. The firing of Gorton and DQ looked impulsive and impetuous, but there was a whole lot of stuff happening in public that looked really bad for the org. Responsibility for that has to rest with upper management. We act like Dolan took a team and organization that was cruising into the station and knocked it off the rails for no reason at all.
I don’t understand how anyone can be anything but hopeful at this point.
Adam Fox Time
Registered User
- Jan 1, 2020
- 606
- 854
What "relatively mixed reactions"
There would have been some random people calling it a bad move if the Rangers hired Scotty Bowman in 1993
There would have been some random people calling it a bad move if the Rangers hired Scotty Bowman in 1993
absolutely right - i def have nothing against gallant. i think he was the best option. the only question i have w/ him is his firings when from the outside there looked like no reason to do it. one weird one, and it being basket case florida ownership, can be random. but happening again in vegas is odd. could just be tough luck w/ time and place, and not a major concern - but do wonder if theres anything more about those. other than that he def seems to have a rep of getting the most out of his guys and a coach guys love to play for.
honestly can't say i've thought deeply on who i'd want over him, but i also don't see coaches as a one size fits all. sure there's some coaches who have long track records of success like trotz deboer, av who can probably take any roster and improve results. but i don't think even they might be necessarily the best choice - i think teams - gm's and rosters make coaches as much as any coach creates results. by that i mean i think its critical a gm find a fit in line w/ their vision for what the team will look like in terms of style, roster composition, locker room culture, development philosophy - and a fit with what the roster personality is as well as how its composition fits a coaches ideal system. and beyond that understanding teh timing of where the coach is mentally etc - long story short i just dont subscribe to the belief there's can't miss coaches out there and the best results come from feeling out the right fit at the right time regardless of background or pedigree.
and yes certainly the rangers history plays into it. but beyond that i'm also a big believer in the importance of stability and culture up and down an organization - that its impact ultimately has a massive impact on the on ice product and the developmental results. we had that, as aligned and respected a group as i ever remember us having steering the ship. so seeing jd and gorton fired out of the blue and that devolve to drury literally firing everyone down to the freakin video review guy...its alarming to me. its just weird, he's been working in the org a few years, its not like an external guy coming in and cleaning house to bring in his people. just bizarre. maybe drury has a plan, maybe he'll reassemble that stability and culture in his vision quickly and this is all a moot point. but i can't say that feels very probable at the moment.
