Speculation: Rangers Head Coach Search (Laviolette being finalized? According to Vince and Friedman)

[GoAwayPanarin]

I hereby nominate this thread for The Steaming Pile award.

Good lord lol.

This is the Kravtsov of threads.

 

[Vito Andolini]

Renney and his staff helped bring respectability back to the Rangers. He had his flaws, like all coaches. If it wasn't for the culture he built the franchise would have still been shit like it was for the 7 seasons prior. Unlike Tortorella, Vigneault, and Gallant who took over teams ready for contention, Renney had to help build a winner from the ground up, deal with the media, did so, and then did what he could to get them as far as they could go. That's why people liked him.All coaches have a shelf life and he wasn't immune to that.

Renney did a good job here, but he's been gone since 2009. Get real if you think the culture he built is still influential in any kind of way after about 15 years, 4 coaches, and 100% roster turnover later.

Actually, the franchise was kind of a mess when he was dismissed in 2009. We had about 40% of our cap tied up in these three: Drury, Gomez and Redden (obviously not really on Renney) and we were also losing games ugly (10-2 loss to the Stars a week or so before he got canned).

Tortorella absolutely did not inherit a team ready for contention. Again...get real. After he took over, the team had to be re-made to take on a lunch pail mentality, which Renney definitely did not set us up for.

 

[eco's bones]

I was kinda hoping the Rangers would look at a European guy for coach. Add a little Herb Brooks flavor to the league. I’m just curious what some of you guys thought about the Brooks years as I was in the Navy during that time and was unable to watch any games.

A lot really depends on the kind of personnel a team has. Brooks came in with Pavelich and Ruotsolainen goes back to then too. You had Hedberg. These were skilled puck possession type of guys. Some seasons worked better than other. Sometimes those small, speedy, puck possession types skated rings around the opposition and sometimes the opposition pinned them down and kicked the shit out of them.

A small player has to be really good but too many on one team also is an issue. I will always go with the bigger, stronger player all things being relatively even. Having skill in the middle of the ice is great but so much these days particularly in the home stretch or playoffs depends on puck battles along the walls, in the corners and behind the nets. Your smaller player--like Fox has to win his share of those too and like Fox again create turnovers. If they can't do that they're a problem. To me a small player needs to be a top player--not a bottom liner or a 6/7 D.

 

[UnparalledPark]

A lot really depends on the kind of personnel a team has. Brooks came in with Pavelich and Ruotsolainen goes back to then too. You had Hedberg. These were skilled puck possession type of guys. Some seasons worked better than other. Sometimes those small, speedy, puck possession types skated rings around the opposition and sometimes the opposition pinned them down and kicked the shit out of them.

A small player has to be really good but too many on one team also is an issue. I will always go with the bigger, stronger player all things being relatively even. Having skill in the middle of the ice is great but so much these days particularly in the home stretch or playoffs depends on puck battles along the walls, in the corners and behind the nets. Your smaller player--like Fox has to win his share of those too and like Fox again create turnovers. If they can't do that they're a problem. To me a small player needs to be a top player--not a bottom liner or a 6/7 D.

Makes sense. One would have to wonder if the Devils could go all the way as presently constructed.

 

[RangerBoy]

 

[RangersFan1994]

Can someone hire Hynes and I don’t mean the Rangers.


I hope its down to Laviolette and Roy personally if Knoblach is not being considered

 

[NYR94]

Kent Johnson next year when Babcock asks him to list his teammates in order from hardest working to least:

 

[bobbop]

Babcock to Columbus.

Damn!

 

[leetch99]

If they hire Knoblauch ....I would like to see them pursue Gardiner McDougall for head coach in Hartford . Throw the checkbook at him . The guy just flat out wins . Just Google his resume .

 

[EdJovanovski]

nipples

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

What’s JD doing over there in Columbus?

 

[SRHRangers]

Babcock is going to eviscerate Laine.

 

[Crease]

This is the worst season of The Bachelor.

 

[turcotte8]

I have it on good authority they are going to stop tonight's game halfway through the second period and bring Drury out to center ice so he can make the announcement.

 

[alkurtz]

Renney did a good job here, but he's been gone since 2009. Get real if you think the culture he built is still influential in any kind of way after about 15 years, 4 coaches, and 100% roster turnover later.

Actually, the franchise was kind of a mess when he was dismissed in 2009. We had about 40% of our cap tied up in these three: Drury, Gomez and Redden (obviously not really on Renney) and we were also losing games ugly (10-2 loss to the Stars a week or so before he got canned).

Tortorella absolutely did not inherit a team ready for contention. Again...get real. After he took over, the team had to be re-made to take on a lunch pail mentality, which Renney definitely did not set us up for.

Off course not, I don't think that he has any impact on what is happening today, I don't know why you would ever think that. At that time, he proved the right man for the job. Within a few years he wasn't: times change, teams change, priorities change.

You need to be a bit more understanding of history. No one is advocating for him to return. Get real.

When he was replaced, the team needed to go in a different direction. What he had accomplished was no longer relevant to what the team needed. No coach lasts forever. Some have short life spans, some longer. The team went from low-key Renney to hyper Torts.

The Rangers were a complete disaster coming out of the lockout. I seem to recall some publication (whether it was the Hockey News or someone else, I don't remember) picking them to finish last in the entire NHL. If I remember correctly, the team used that as motivation. That was a good year. I've always felt that the most satisfying years are when, after a long stretch of terrible play, your team emerges and succeeds. They had not made the playoffs for, I believe 7 years, plus the lockout year. Lundqvist emerged, Jagr had a great year. The line with Nylander and Straka was one of the best lines in Ranger history. Prucha scored 30 goals. Renney was a large part of that.

He wore out his welcome, as all coaches do. But get real, at the time, he did a great job.

 

[NYR94]

So what vacancies are left now? Rangers, Flames and Ducks? I heard Gallant's name mentioned for the Flames a few times.

 

[hackeyman]

Lavs killed his first week as coach, IMO.

A little premature until someone posts a FIRE LAVILOETTE thread .

 

[ReddestRum]

When you want to lose the room even before players step in the room, lol.

 

[hackeyman]

This was supposed to be the week for Laviolette if he was going to be the Rangers next and latest head coach. It didn’t happen.

Don LsGreca. I hate that guy. That guy is a Devil guy. He is the ultimate guy who was in the right spot at the right time. He previously worked at WFAN. He talked about his Devils fandom. When the Rangers and Devils were in game 7 OT in 1994, Don was rooting for the Devils.

Michael Kay is incapable of doing a show by himself so they have two sidekicks for him.

LaGreca is awful. Rosenberg is worse. Kay is bad,

MSG doesn't give a shit about hockey having Don do their games on the radio. Do people still listen to the radio?

Kay couldn't beat Francesa and Russo and they barely beat Francesa who was mailing it in at the end of his career.

Carton and Roberts are destroying Kay's show. Carton and Roberts aren’t even a good listen. Carton's name is Cartoon.

I f***ing love your avatar !

 

[hackeyman]

This is the worst season of The Bachelor.

Agreed. On the other hand Thousand Pound Sisters is rivetting !

 

[BBKers]

It was always Roy

 

[NYR Viper]

It was always Roy

This has always made sense to me. And it also justifies the wait

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

No reason to distrust Weekes with the early scoop on this.

Have voiced my opinion enough on Roy until it’s official.

 

[Cmox]

It was always Roy

What ya drinking?

 

[GENESISPuck94]

Off course not, I don't think that he has any impact on what is happening today, I don't know why you would ever think that. At that time, he proved the right man for the job. Within a few years he wasn't: times change, teams change, priorities change.

You need to be a bit more understanding of history. No one is advocating for him to return. Get real.

When he was replaced, the team needed to go in a different direction. What he had accomplished was no longer relevant to what the team needed. No coach lasts forever. Some have short life spans, some longer. The team went from low-key Renney to hyper Torts.

The Rangers were a complete disaster coming out of the lockout. I seem to recall some publication (whether it was the Hockey News or someone else, I don't remember) picking them to finish last in the entire NHL. If I remember correctly, the team used that as motivation. That was a good year. I've always felt that the most satisfying years are when, after a long stretch of terrible play, your team emerges and succeeds. They had not made the playoffs for, I believe 7 years, plus the lockout year. Lundqvist emerged, Jagr had a great year. The line with Nylander and Straka was one of the best lines in Ranger history. Prucha scored 30 goals. Renney was a large part of that.

He wore out his welcome, as all coaches do. But get real, at the time, he did a great job.

I remember the MSG scoreboard intro video of Renney saying how his team will be relentless and such, and honestly they were. I really liked the work he and his staff did with the Rangers. To this day that team coming out of the lockout is one of my favorite Rangers teams. We were such garbage for so long (7 seasons, 8 years including the locked out year) and that team was fun and gave us respectability back. Like you said we were picked to be in the gutter. I met Pearn and Pelino (and Don La Greca) outside the Garden that season. They were good dudes. I told them they were doing a great job and they seemed genuinely gracious for the compliments.

That whole team had a good feeling to it. It was a fun team and fun season.