LeBrun: Rangers and Montreal possibly talking trade. Habs interested in NYR prospects

[Habs Halifax]

Cool then we'll keep him.

If you like him a lot you should. But throwing names like Suzuki coming the other way is nonsense. Come on man

 

[Captain Mountain]

Our own beat writers don't even have sources in there any more. Friedman has a lot of sources but he speculates a lot more than he actually calls things these days.

Again, the source probably isn't from New York.

And Friedman very clearly differentiates between what he's speculating vs what he's hearing. And he's not one to BS rumours.

 

[FoxysExpensiveNYDigs]

If you like him a lot you should. But throwing names like Suzuki coming the other way is nonsense. Come on man

I never proposed that

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Again, the source probably isn't from New York.

And Friedman very clearly differentiates between what he's speculating vs what he's hearing. And he's not one to BS rumours.

All I've seen so far is the Rangers name thrown in with a bunch of other teams. The Rangers name gets thrown into nearly every available player out there. That's not anything new. Friedman loves to do "I think" and "This makes sense" type of statements. He's good, but he's no Bob McKenzie.

 

[GAGLine]

I'll take Josh Anderson

Anderson is a luxury we can't afford, on top of not being very productive recently. He would probably be better on the Rangers, but we don't need to be spending 5.5 mil on another winger for the next 5 years.

What is the Rangers fans take on Brennan Othmann?

He's not available.

I could see Byron being of interest. We'd likely have to retain or eat some salary to make it work for the Rangers but outside of the obvious trade bait, he just sticks out as someone teams may be interested in to shore up their bottom six. Don't know the Rangers well enough to say if it's a fit though.

No interest In Byron with the extra year on his contract.

Dvorak?

Dvorak could be a possibility. A center with a cheap contract, he might thrive playing with Panarin.

 

[BatVader]

Would something around Chiraot + Lehkonen for Kravstov + 2022 1st + cap (Nemeth) make sense?

That’s not a good trade for the Rangers.

 

[Captain Mountain]

All I've seen so far is the Rangers name thrown in with a bunch of other teams. The Rangers name gets thrown into nearly every available player out there. That's not anything new. Friedman loves to do "I think" and "This makes sense" type of statements. He's good, but he's no Bob McKenzie.

This wasn't a "I think" or "This makes sense" type of comment. It was "I'm hearing". Dreger and LeBrun speculated it too. Staples has cited "reports".

I'm not sure what you're trying argue here? We don't know how serious interest may be, but there's way too much smoke to suggest that nobody actually knows whats going on and there's actually no interest.

 

[Foxy]

One of the first things Drury did as GM was fire the director of European scouting, Nick Bobrov. If I had to guess, it's possible Gorton held/still holds a higher opinion of guys like Kravtsov, Lundkvist, Henriksson, Pajuniemi then Drury ever has. On top of that, Gorton had been slowly giving Bobrov more influence over the draft suggesting he was happy with his picks.

As for Othmann, he was Drurys first pick as Rangers GM, I doubt he is in a hurry to move him. Especially because it looking like a smart pick.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

This wasn't a "I think" or "This makes sense" type of comment. It was "I'm hearing". Dreger and LeBrun speculated it too. Staples has cited "reports".

I'm not sure what you're trying argue here? We don't know how serious interest may be, but there's way too much smoke to suggest that nobody actually knows whats going on and there's actually no interest.

Yeah they all heard a bunch of teams names, which always happens to include the Rangers, because they know that draws views. We are linked to nearly everyone. Staple doesn't have any sources inside the Rangers organization and neither does Larry Brooks anymore. And what does "I'm hearing" even mean - not much different from speculation anyway.

The Rangers have zero need for Ben Chariot, especially not after the Jones-Schneider pairing played last night.

 

[JimmyG89]

This wasn't a "I think" or "This makes sense" type of comment. It was "I'm hearing". Dreger and LeBrun speculated it too. Staples has cited "reports".

I'm not sure what you're trying argue here? We don't know how serious interest may be, but there's way too much smoke to suggest that nobody actually knows whats going on and there's actually no interest.

Hate to break it to you, but it sounds like their source is Jeff Gorton.

 

[BatVader]

All I've seen so far is the Rangers name thrown in with a bunch of other teams. The Rangers name gets thrown into nearly every available player out there. That's not anything new. Friedman loves to do "I think" and "This makes sense" type of statements. He's good, but he's no Bob McKenzie.

It’s commonly known the Rangers are buying, so the shills will tie their name to every available player in search of clicks.
Plus the more shit they throw against the wall, the more likely something will stick, and they can say…”see, I told you”, afterwards

 

[General Fanager]

This is what I can see, as well. Chiarot+Lehkonen for 1st+Kravtsov+maybe a 4th? A late pick throw in. Would Habs fans do this?

TBH I feel like The Habs can do better.

Chiarot is worth a 1st + alone Lehkonen is worth more than a 4th.

 

[Anthony5967]

TBH I feel like The Habs can do better.

Chiarot is worth a 1st + alone Lehkonen is worth more than a 4th.

I don't mean this with any disrespect but a 1st for Chiarot is already a lot. He's a bottom-pair defender. Lehkonen for Kravtsov and a 4th isn't enough? It seems off to me.

 

[General Fanager]

Would something around Chiraot + Lehkonen for Kravstov + 2022 1st + cap (Nemeth) make sense?

no

The only player on the Canadiens that I would trade Othmann for is Suzuki and I'd probably want someone with some upside (like Caulfield) coming back in a deal as well.

you can't be serious.....

 

[Draft]

That’s not a good trade for the Rangers.

It's a worse trade for MTL value-wise. An extra two years on a cap dump who has nowhere to play in MTL, a 22yo wing prospect on the outs with his team and no longer trending like a 1st round pick, and a 1st.... for two guys MTL could each individually get 1st+/2x2nds or rough equivalent for. If you don't like it for meeting NYR's needs, we should scrap that framework because the value is bad for MTL.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

It’s commonly known the Rangers are buying, so the shills will tie their name to every available player in search of clicks.
Plus the more shit they throw against the wall, the more likely something will stick, and they can say…”see, I told you”, afterwards

Exactly. And the Rangers are always making moves so their name pops up everywhere.

I have zero doubt Gorton wants some of the guys he drafted back, but the Rangers interest in giving those players up is another story all together.

 

[jfhabs]

Wet dreams for Othmann

 

[General Fanager]

I don't mean this with any disrespect but a 1st for Chiarot is already a lot. He's a bottom-pair defender. Lehkonen for Kravtsov and a 4th isn't enough? It seems off to me.

Savard got a 1st and a 3rd last year. Chiarot is better so I would want a bit more. Especially since its widely reported that as many as 10-12 teams are interested. Bidding war time....

Oh and he isn't a bottom pair guy.

 

[Captain Mountain]

Yeah they all heard a bunch of teams names, which always happens to include the Rangers, because they know that draws views. We are linked to nearly everyone. Staple doesn't have any sources inside the Rangers organization and neither does Larry Brooks anymore. And what does "I'm hearing" even mean - not much different from speculation anyway.

The Rangers have zero need for Ben Chariot, especially not after the Jones-Schneider pairing played last night.

The Canadiens don't need any help drawing views. Like at all. And I'll keep repeating it, the reports probably aren't coming from New York, since they're not the ones with incentive to leak it.

I don't think the Rangers need Chiarot either. They also didn't need to pay Goodrow or trade Buchnevich for a 2nd and Blais. Lets not pretend that every front office makes moves that are puzzling to people on the outside.

And I'm not sure what Jones or Schnieder has to do with anything (especially after literally one game against Boston without Marchand and Bergeron), but Chiarot isn't going to be acquired by a team looking to just fill its 3rd pair.

 

[Doc5]

One of the first things Drury did as GM was fire the director of European scouting, Nick Bobrov. If I had to guess, it's possible Gorton held/still holds a higher opinion of guys like Kravtsov, Lundkvist, Henriksson, Pajuniemi then Drury ever has. On top of that, Gorton had been slowly giving Bobrov more influence over the draft suggesting he was happy with his picks.

As for Othmann, he was Drurys first pick as Rangers GM, I doubt he is in a hurry to move him. Especially because it looking like a smart pick.

Do you know why they fired Bobrov? Apparently the Habs are in talks with him now…

 

[DanielBrassard]

Really? They were two of a few rangers to be in out attempted at 5v5 with Boston missing Bergeron and Marchand

Jones was 55 percent corsi for and like 80 percent xG and Schneider was below 50 percent corsi but a positive in xG. So not exactly true.

 

[BatVader]

It's a worse trade for MTL value-wise. An extra two years on a cap dump who has nowhere to play in MTL, a 22yo wing prospect on the outs with his team and no longer trending like a 1st round pick, and a 1st.... for two guys MTL could each individually get 1st+/2x2nds or rough equivalent for. If you don't like it for meeting NYR's needs, we should scrap that framework because the value is bad for MTL.

Neither of those 2 are worth a 1st

 

[Captain Mountain]

Hate to break it to you, but it sounds like their source is Jeff Gorton.

...I know? When leaks of interest in rental players happen its almost always from the selling team or a player agent.

 

[Anthony5967]

Wet dreams for Othmann

Is there a player on MTL that is deserving of a return like that?

 

[TheBloodyNine]

The Canadiens don't need any help drawing views. Like at all. And I'll keep repeating it, the reports probably aren't coming from New York, since they're not the ones with incentive to leak it.

I don't think the Rangers need Chiarot either. They also didn't need to pay Goodrow or trade Buchnevich for a 2nd and Blais. Lets not pretend that every front office makes moves that are puzzling to people on the outside.

And I'm not sure what Jones or Schnieder has to do with anything (especially after literally one game against Boston without Marchand and Bergeron), but Chiarot isn't going to be acquired by a team looking to just fill its 3rd pair.

This has nothing to do with the Canadians, it's the Rangers that are linked.

Bolded: That is literally the pair that the Rangers need to fill so that's even more evidence there.