I'm fully prepared to overpay for Goodrow, but if it's for 5 years I wouldn't want to do more than a little over $3M. I could live with a bit more on the AAV if the term was 3-4 years. I mean there's different degrees of overpayment; 5 years/$22.5M is a significant overpayment which concerns me when we still have cap uncertainty and will have several guys needing new deals in that time.
Confirmed with Link: Rangers Acquire Rights to RW Barclay Goodrow; Signs Contract (6 Years, $3.642M AAV)
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Synergy27
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I know we all think GMs are dumb, and some certainly are, but I can’t imagine more than a handful of them actually thinking this way.
We’re getting a good look under the hood on Drury here right away, which I appreciate. I am all about this pre-emptive move for Goodrow, and think he’s exactly what this team needs, but I’ll be right there with a pitchfork if he is signed long term for $4.5M. That’s an insane number.
haohmaru
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Riiiight. A guy who has been covering the Rangers for 42 years ('79) and has published two books about hockey has worse sources than bloggers. Hoooookay. Reality check, buddy. I mean, dislike him all you want but the above is just complete horse shit.
LaffyTaffyNYR
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There are others who can do what Goodrow can do available for certainly less than 4.5M per... I'd do that for Coleman for instance.
Teams around the league are in a trading frenzy for cap space and people think guys are going to get a 400+ % raise? That would be incredibly crazy.
Teams around the league are in a trading frenzy for cap space and people think guys are going to get a 400+ % raise? That would be incredibly crazy.
LaffyTaffyNYR
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Do I think Carp is horrible? no.. but the guy literally talked about the coaching search THE DAY Gallant was hired and had nothing
Rongomania
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It isn't, but I don't think he's coming in at 4x4 either.
I expect he'll get his term, but the dollar figure will fall short of that marker.
Longer term but lower aav makes sense to me. If the wheels fall towards the end he can be flipped to Arizona with a pick, or bought out.
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Bringing Goodrow is exactly the move that was speculated / assumed to be what Drury has been charged as the priority order of business. But anyone could throw a crazy contract so I want to see details. Is it realistic to not go over 5 years and $3.little AAV? Front load with bonus and maybe it is movable in the last year or two.
P.S. Moving Buchnevich was “cemented” by resigning Kreider after Kakko and Kravtsov were drafted. This move has nothing to do with the prospects for the Russian.
P.S. Moving Buchnevich was “cemented” by resigning Kreider after Kakko and Kravtsov were drafted. This move has nothing to do with the prospects for the Russian.
Did anyone, though? I mean there was obviously heavy speculation, but up until the announcement was made I don't remember anyone saying anything was imminent. There was still speculation the day Gallant was hired about what Brind'Amour would do and Tocchet still seemed a real possibility. I'm talking not just Carp, but also Brooks, Vince, and the national guys. Drury played it as close to the vest as possible. We still likely don't even know the full extent of who the Rangers spoke with.
Carpiniello addressed that in a mail bag--guys come and go, it takes time to cultivate relationships that become sources. He said he was with Drury hours before the Gallant news came out and got nothing. Just like everyone else.
HockeyBasedNYC
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Shot blocking too. He really is a very solid bottom 6 guy defensively.
Im prepared to overpay - just hoping we are impressed with Drurys first shot at negotiating an incoming UFA contract and it’s a fair deal for both sides
haohmaru
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If the Rangers sign him anywhere near 4.5M/Per then the "Fire Drury" movement will begin.
3.1 X 5 is probably the max of where it should be and that just serves further notice how bad the Jesper Fast situation was handled. That guy, turns out, is pretty hard to replace and everyone seemed to know that except the GM.
HockeyBasedNYC
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Regarding Buch… it is simple mathematics.
I’d love to keep the guy but I’d rather put what his new hit would be into a center.
Money better spent and you should be able to get back good value for him.
Doesn’t have anything to do with Goodrow but if you want to say this was the nail for him so be it. It was going to happen anyway.
I’d love to keep the guy but I’d rather put what his new hit would be into a center.
Money better spent and you should be able to get back good value for him.
Doesn’t have anything to do with Goodrow but if you want to say this was the nail for him so be it. It was going to happen anyway.
eco's bones
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Yanni Gourde is two years into a six year deal for $5.166 mil. Four years to go and I get the vibe that people wouldn’t have a problem with that. He’s a real good player. So is Goodrow. If we’re signing him he’s going to get paid. Gourde is a real pain in the ass to play against but he’s not the physical force that Goodrow is. I think we can figure on $3.5 anyway—maybe higher and at least 5 years for Goodrow.
HockeyBasedNYC
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5x 3.25 would be exciting but you may need to go 6 to get the hit down to that
Not directed at you, personally:
Posters opining on a board with often-times little brain power and no connections criticizing those being paid who actually do have some real contacts is par for the course here.
SA16
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If we’re going to pay someone from TB3 maybe we should have tried to trade for one of the other two vastly better players on the line.
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Fast is a soft Euro. Now we get a rugged North American boy!
On a serious note though: Fast definitely was missed this past season. Carolina is protecting him, and they are really happy to have him on their team.
Carp has some sources but is not always right
The $4.5 number feels like he’s guessing to me
Not many!
Just saying that we shouldn’t take his words as ironclad either
at any rate while I feel like rangers coverage is a
Bit lacking it’s funny we hate the guys with connections because they’re “old school” and hate the guys with modern takes and writing because they “don’t have connections”
Also anyways, Goodrow move is interesting but also feels a bit like overpaying for a role player you SHOULD be able to develop, but it’s not always easy to find and develop a bottom six physical guy who’s good defensively
Despite the rep of bottom sixers and unskilled and dime a dozen, it can be a bit of a specialist role sometimes and you pay a bit more for specialists
Despite the rep of bottom sixers and unskilled and dime a dozen, it can be a bit of a specialist role sometimes and you pay a bit more for specialists
NYR Viper
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Morgan Barron now has someone who he can watch and learn from to help him carve out a long NHL career. Those two big boys on a line have the makings of a VERY good and physical line.
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Change is good.
Didn't have time. The roster freeze at 3pm was for both trades and signings. Thereafter, only Seattle could make moves. I expect we'll see it on the 22nd, though.I bet Drury is trying to get him signed before lists are submitted to Seattle.
