Confirmed with Link: Rangers Acquire Jacob Trouba for Neal Pionk and 20th Overall Pick - Part II

Ranger1135

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Walt Poddubny had a couple of strong seasons right before Turcotte took over #8.



As do I. I also have my Stanley Cup Finals program with Messier & Graves signature on the cover. Still need to have Leetch & Richter sign it. One day I'll run into both of them....
Glad to see I'm not the only grey beard here that remembers Walt Poddubny, lol. But of more recent memory was a scrappy, blood and guts True Blue Ranger by the name of Brandon Prust.

I've been a fan for over 40 years and this by far is the deepest the Rangers talent/prospect pool has ever been in all three facets of the game.

Even in our lead up to the cup in 1994 our talent/prospect pool was not this deep. Yes, they were set in goal with Beezer & Richter. Defense with Leetch & James Patrick as the only home grown D-men that I can recall, and up front we had Amonte, Weight, Turcotte. But nothing in the system of any other value. Kovalev, Nemchinov, Zubov and Karpotsev, were really unknown quantities at the time they were drafted having never played the North American style game and them touching the ice at MSG was no guarantee.

Picking up Trouba, who is entering the prime of his career, and adding the likes of a Hughes or Kakko to an already deep system, gives me a great deal of hope.

Granted a lot of the players we are talking about have potential. But I'll take the potential of a Kravtsov, Rykov, Georgiev, Shesterkin, Miller, Fox, Rykov, Reunanen, Lindqvist, Hajek, Howden, Andersson, Chytil, Buchnevich, etc., over the days of being sold a bill of goods on the likes of Dube, Malhottra, Lundmark, Brendl and Cloutier.

In 1994 the Rangers gave up the farm to win the cup and it was based on true NHL experience not potential. No one was likely to give up much over the likes of Peter Ferraro, Chris Chihocki, Mike Hurlbut. So this is a pleasant departure from my years as a fan. It's nice to be in a position where they can trade "potential" and know that there's plenty of top flight potential from within to replace them.
 
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Glad to see I'm not the only grey beard here that remembers Walt Poddubny, lol.

I had a Walt Poddubny rangers jersey as a kid, though I believe he only played 1 season for the Rangers.

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I guess it was 2 seasons, scored 78 goals for us.
 

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Here's my question. If teams weren't allowed to talk with Trouba how would they know if he was/was not interested in going there? Winnipeg controlled his rights, so they could have sent him wherever they wanted. Obviously the Rangers deal had to be the best offer on the table.
WPG can talk to other teams, I guess?
 

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Brett is in the bathtub
Making soup for the ambassadors
And I am in the hallway
Singing to the troubadours....

Gotta get that bathtub gin ready for his appearance.

I can’t tell if that poem is total crap or simply too sophisticated for me. Much like:

So much depends upon a red wheelbarrow
Glazed with rain water
Beside the white chickens
 

nyr2k2

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Lemieux likes to crash the net. He uses that strength and tenacity and decent speed to win the battles in front and in the corners. I think he's generally going to be a guy who finishes with more goals than assists, like he has done in his OHL and AHL careers to date (using the good shot he has). I think he'll be like a 20-10 or 20-15 guy, somewhere in that range. I don't think he has the creativity and awareness to post 20+ assists on any kind of regular basis, and honestly setting other guys up is not his game. He can be like a mid-career, poor-man's Holmstrom or something. Who can also beat your ass.
 
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Lemieux like to crash the net. He uses that strength and tenacity and decent speed to win the battles in front and in the corners. I think he's generally going to be a guy who finishes with more goals than assists, like he has done in the OHL and AHL careers to date (using the good shot). I think he'll be like a 20-10 or 20-15 guy, somewhere in that range. I don't think he has the creativity and awareness to post 20+ assists on any kind of regular basis, and honestly setting other guys up is not his game. He can be like a mid-career, poor-man's Holmstrom or something. Who can also beat your ass.
Jimmy Vesey but angry
 

DanielBrassard

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I'll be happy if Lemieux can be a disturbing third line player who pops in 15-20 goals, and 40 points.
He'd be more than a 3rd liner if he puts up 40 points, which would likely come at 5v5 because I don't forsee him being on the PP all that much
 

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Lemiuex has vastly more potential than a 4th liner. Based on his play here I don't give much weight to his previous seasons
I did not state that Lemieux was going to be a career 4th liner. I merely pointed out his production thus far has been that of a 4th liner and I only pointed that out as I misinterpreted what the poster was saying.
 

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Walt Poddubny had a couple of strong seasons right before Turcotte took over #8.



As do I. I also have my Stanley Cup Finals program with Messier & Graves signature on the cover. Still need to have Leetch & Richter sign it. One day I'll run into both of them....
Sorry to disagree...I think Steve Vickers was best to don that number.
 
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nyr2k2

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He'd be more than a 3rd liner if he puts up 40 points, which would likely come at 5v5 because I don't forsee him being on the PP all that much
If Kreider were moved I could totally see him getting time on a PP unit where he's parked in front. He's a horse, he'd be really tough to move, and his hands are good enough that he could pop in some goals. I have also read that he's pretty solid at deflections dating back to his time in the OHL, but I can't speak to that first hand.
 

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He'd be more than a 3rd liner if he puts up 40 points, which would likely come at 5v5 because I don't forsee him being on the PP all that much

I dunno, if we build a team like the front office wants, and our second line winger is putting up 40 points, I think we've got a problem.
 
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nyr2k2

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I dunno, if we build a team like the front office wants, and our second line winger is putting up 40 points, I think we've got a problem.
If our third or fourth line wing is putting up 40 points with any consistency, we might be a juggernaut. 40 points puts you in the top-40 of wingers (each side) in the NHL. So I think that's the thing--if he's putting up 40 points regularly he's probably not exclusively on the third or fourth line.

40 points is low-end second line, high-end 3rd line production. Depending on PP time.
 

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