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Another HR for Endy tonight -- he's on a tear. Saw some chatter noting that he's got some fairly heavy splits (Greensboro is extremely hitter friendly), but I think it's still a very encouraging development to see the power start to come.

I'd love to hear their reasoning for not promoting the guy who's been on an absolute tear for a month plus now and is once again, near the top of most major offensive categories, OPS north of .900, especially considering 2 of the positions he can readily play (C and 2B) are missing Davis and Gonzales at each respecitively. Would seem like a great chance to expose him to upper minors pitching given he's got north of 600 AB's in A ball and has tore up both leagues now.
 
Really loose athletic arm. If he can get more Bite on his slider he could become pretty solid

Yep, slider is not nasty as the announcer quoted, but it's got potential at least. That 2nd K was hung and a good hitter would have driven it. Conversely, the 3rd K, on the same type of pitch, was perfect location and snapped a bit more downward.

Fastball really gets on the plate quickly which I like to see. Everything starts with the heater and he's got a good one to build on.
 
I still can't quite quit the Yankees scraps, but I'd like to see us swoop in and take a shot at Florial or, more ideally, Andujar. Florial is 24 and his prospect status has been in question for some time, but he's seemingly having some things click for him in AAA this year and it doesn't seem like the Yankees want to give him much run. He's seemingly been around forever, which is reflected in the fact that he's out of options next year, but his service clock hasn't really gotten going.

Andujar is in a similar boat and since he doesn't have the same speed/defense carrying tools as Florial, he has to be more expendable. Honestly, I think given that he's done it in MLB before, there will be interested teams, but it's also hard to imagine that his value will be very high. I really think that Newman will be pretty difficult to trade. He's looked ok at the plate since coming back, and has the history of high contact, but I still see him more as a non-tender option in the offseason. Still, he might be a cheap option for some team to have for its bench/as a rotation #9 hitter.

I am hoping that BC's off hand remark about not trading Vogelbach for an "A ball pitcher who might be a reliever" comes back to bite him a little bit, though not in the sense that he actually swings that kind of deal. There could be some other fits, but we really should be taking some shots for guys who would step in immediately. I think Andujar's power RH bat can play with opportunity.
 
4-21 so far in AAA with 12 K's. The 3 homers are nice, but striking out 55% of the time is absolute trash.

Kid needs to cut down on the whiffs and find a way to hit more than a few points above the Mendoza line.

He's likely down for season. Dude has changes to make, and they won't be quick most likely.

I'd love to hear their reasoning for not promoting the guy who's been on an absolute tear for a month plus now and is once again, near the top of most major offensive categories, OPS north of .900, especially considering 2 of the positions he can readily play (C and 2B) are missing Davis and Gonzales at each respecitively. Would seem like a great chance to expose him to upper minors pitching given he's got north of 600 AB's in A ball and has tore up both leagues now.
They just promoted his backup to AA to cover the backup C getting injured ....

I wonder what developmental program they have him on. It seems like Catchers in general play an extra season or 3 in A-ball. Maybe he's paired with a specific coach?
 
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No reason to really even raise an eyebrow yet, but it would be nice to see Johnson get signed before running right up against the trade deadline. The signing deadline is August 1st, though I imagine the front office people involved are different.

It looks like he will be at slot or maybe a little over, with the question being how much we need to go overslot for Kennedy. By quick math, we're about 375K under with our other picks and we have about 687K with the 5% overage, which is just over 1M total. Kennedy is an LSU commit, so you would think he'll need some money to go pro.

I haven't really seen anything on Johnson but I'll be surprised if he's below slot, since my assumption is that we may have forced him down to our pick a little bit by making sure Baltimore couldn't shave enough that it would have been worth it for them to take him 1st. It's really hard to tell, since they took Holliday and didn't get a discount. Maybe they just preferred him the most and it would have happened anyways, but if Johnson is a little overslot, then saving 750K-1M isn't really too helpful for Baltimore. That all could leave a total of 1.25-1.5 for Kennedy, depending on what happens with the handful of college guys we haven't signed yet.
 

Nice to hear people think highly of us getting Holderman from the Mets. Seems like Q will definitely be moved, which isn't surprising at all. He's not the best starter available but a key consolation prize. I'm hoping we can replicate the Vogelbach trade in terms of what we get back.

The fallback option for seemingly every team is Jose Quintana, the veteran left-hander in the midst of a rebound season with the Pirates after a forgettable 2021. While the aforementioned teams are focused at the top of the market, every club in baseball needs pitching depth, and Pittsburgh is in a dandy position to spin its $2 million investment in Quintana into a prospect. Already the Pirates are getting rave reviews from evaluators after last week's trade of Daniel Vogelbach, which netted them right-handed reliever Colin Holderman from the Mets.
 
I'm hoping that if (when) Q is moved, Cherington's comment about "not wanting to get an "A ball pitcher who might be a reliever in a few years" is still something that rings true.

Just to give an example of a name that is too familiar to me for years of reading around, one guy who might fit that description is RHP Matthew Thompson. Projectable, still just 21, but seemingly not moving in the right direction. He's the kind of talent that a team could acquire earlier in its rebuilding phase in order to hope he puts things together, but it just doesn't really make sense at this point for us, especially when you consider the marginal cost of more strain on important arms if Quintana is dealt.

Cherington really needs to hold firm, and it will be a good test of his negotiating skills. If he moves him simply because this team isn't going anywhere, then it won't be a good result. It makes a lot of sense that teams will drag their feet as other things play out before they turn to Quintana, but he needs to be ready and willing to take it up to the deadline and keep him if the right offer isn't there.

I do think part of the conversation has to be about what Quintana himself wants, and to the greatest extent possible, what kind of interest he'd have in coming back next year. As a veteran without a ring, I have to imagine that he'd like a shot with a contender, and also that this would weigh on his decision this offseason, but at the end of the day, Cherington has to make a deal that actually improves the Pirates in 2023, even if the path to do that is to ride out Quintana for 10-12 more valuable starts worth of innings, in order to help reduce stress on the arms of guys like Crowe and Bednar.

The other looming question is what kind of alternative trades we might be able to look at. Cleveland is always a team who is willing to sell and buy at the same time, and maybe we match up pretty well for a Zach Plesac trade. He's not looking like a world beater, but he's somewhat comparable to Brubaker on paper and might at least be able to hold down 150 innings or so for you next year, which is pretty valuable when you consider how paper thin our depth is. If we could pry him away for an OF prospect and some lower minors guys, that's the kind of deal that would make taking anything for Quintana (even if it's just "an A ball pitcher who might be a reliever in a few years") more palatable.

Skubal would be a bigger ticket but I don't know that we have the prospect headliner who would make sense. If Peguero's offense were better or Gonzales had not gotten hurt, maybe that's who could start a package off, but I just don't see it. Another guy who I think is some adjustments away from being pretty effective is Daniel Lynch, but who knows what the Royals would be planning on doing (I hear some speculation the other day that if their pitching can't get better results, maybe they'll revamp the coaching staff this winter).
 
In news that hopefully bodes well for the immediate future, Madris has played 1B every day this week. I'd definitely still love to take a crack at Dom Smith this deadline, but at the very least, this has to mean Yoshi's days are finally numbered.
 
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Yep, slider is not nasty as the announcer quoted, but it's got potential at least. That 2nd K was hung and a good hitter would have driven it. Conversely, the 3rd K, on the same type of pitch, was perfect location and snapped a bit more downward.

Fastball really gets on the plate quickly which I like to see. Everything starts with the heater and he's got a good one to build on.
He’s as good as advertised at 19 years old. Owns all the tools you can’t teach. Just gotta turn him from athletic raw amateur to professional. I really hope he makes it. His talent is good for the game
 
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Endy's July has been bonkers.

.367/.487/.817/1.304.

Folks need to remember that Greensboro is a very hitter friendly park and his splits home/away highlight that, at least in terms of slugging, but even on the road he's .292/.812, that BA is higher than his home average (.287).

Plus I like the splits against R/L.

R - .291/.931
L - .283/.847
RISP - .263/.918

Also has really nice splits when you look at SP (.884) - RP (.946).

The jump to AA will be telling as far as the bat goes, but it's hard not to be fairly excited for his contributions down the line given what he's done the past 1.5 years.
 
There's some direct quotes worth reading IMO.

 
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Johnson not being signed is a bit odd but I haven't seen anything to make me think he won't be signed. Maybe him and his agent basically said "get everyone else signed and give us what's left" or something like that.
 
I think it's basically lining up where he'll sign and be interviewed at some point this weekend during the homestand. Deadline isn't until Monday, so there's no reason to be worried. Back of napkin math is that we have enough to give him slightly over slot value.

This is probably going a little bit far, but I wouldn't be surprised if the draft night talks we had with him were that we'd promise full slot and whatever else we could squeeze out of the pool. It lines up with the way we drafted, in terms of taking two college pitchers we probably liked who were just slightly under slot and then picking up a high school talent who was still there at the start of the 4th. Also maybe a little bit of a window into just how much 1.5-2M can mean for being able to be flexible later on, in the sense that most of the teams can't do that. Last year was really an anomaly in that sense.
 
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